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2013-02-13 11:30 AM in reply to: #4620711 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED rrrunner - 2013-02-14 1:06 AM Richardsdrr - 2013-02-13 10:00 AM JJ- - 2013-02-13 1:24 PM How are you on the run and swim? If you're ok on doing those, and its not causing any further damage, couldn't you do just the swim and bike part of the course for the experience, and practice in transition etc. By then you may be up to walk, or even walk/jog the run part. Considering you will be attending anyway due to condo situation, it may be an idea.Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. This was my thought too. I know how much work goes in to training for a HIM and I would hate to have that taken away so close to the goal. x3 on this. Your accrued run fitness may well carry you through the day, especially if you can manage short runs (5-10 min, not even to the point of a whisper of possible discomfort) between now and then, and walking. If you can't cycle, though, I'd volunteer for the race. |
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2013-02-13 11:36 AM in reply to: #4620628 |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 11:29 AM melbo55 - 2013-02-13 11:58 PM A question for the sages that are the manatees: I am in week 2 of my half marathon plan, running 3 miles Tues, Wed and Thurs with a 5 mile long run scheduled for Sat. However, I have a 5K race on Sunday, so I'm thinking running 5 miles Sat. may not be the best idea, but I don't want to skimp out on my training, either. Thought about not running Sat. and doing the 5K Sunday and then doing the extra 2 miles at some point after the race. Thoughts? Well, you're going to have to warm up for the race Haha, I like this idea. Do a couple real slow miles before the race. I mean, unless you're trying to set a PR or something. |
2013-02-13 11:41 AM in reply to: #4620710 |
Veteran 1100 Dayton | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED rrrunner - 2013-02-13 12:03 PM OK, I realize that as a Manatee I shouldn't have a problem swimming in cold water But... as Oceanside draws near I am working more on the details i.e. nutrition, race gear, etc, and I am wondering about using a neoprene cap and possibly booties, if the water is cold enough. I've never tried either of these items and wonder about everyones' experience with them. I've read that the neoprene cap is too "floaty" and that a silicone or two under the race cap it better. I've also read that the booties fill with water and become more trouble than they are worth. Should I get these items and try them at the pool? Where does one find these items? Sporting good stores? The interwebs? Talk to me. Any cap will help out. You can order it off of Amazon if you want. They're stretchy and don't really come in specific sizes. Practice putting it on ahead (get it, 'a head'? ) of time. My 100th post. Yay! |
2013-02-13 11:54 AM in reply to: #4620773 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED ponderingfox - 2013-02-14 1:41 AM rrrunner - 2013-02-13 12:03 PM OK, I realize that as a Manatee I shouldn't have a problem swimming in cold water But... as Oceanside draws near I am working more on the details i.e. nutrition, race gear, etc, and I am wondering about using a neoprene cap and possibly booties, if the water is cold enough. I've never tried either of these items and wonder about everyones' experience with them. I've read that the neoprene cap is too "floaty" and that a silicone or two under the race cap it better. I've also read that the booties fill with water and become more trouble than they are worth. Should I get these items and try them at the pool? Where does one find these items? Sporting good stores? The interwebs? Talk to me. Any cap will help out. You can order it off of Amazon if you want. They're stretchy and don't really come in specific sizes. Practice putting it on ahead (get it, 'a head'? ) of time. My 100th post. Yay! Happy hundred, you foxy Tom! |
2013-02-13 11:59 AM in reply to: #4620743 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 12:25 PM rrrunner - 2013-02-14 1:03 AM OK, I realize that as a Manatee I shouldn't have a problem swimming in cold water But... as Oceanside draws near I am working more on the details i.e. nutrition, race gear, etc, and I am wondering about using a neoprene cap and possibly booties, if the water is cold enough. I've never tried either of these items and wonder about everyones' experience with them. I've read that the neoprene cap is too "floaty" and that a silicone or two under the race cap it better. I've also read that the booties fill with water and become more trouble than they are worth. Should I get these items and try them at the pool? Where does one find these items? Sporting good stores? The interwebs? Talk to me. I am hopeless in cold water and always have been, even training in it through the winter up to Oceanside, and it was really painful when my feet finally "came to" on the bike ... BUT ... I didn't die, and I didn't feel ridiculously cold on the swim. I think it was about 60 F the day of. Booties suck. I'm going to wear them in NZ, but I wouldn't unless I absolutely had to. Neoprene caps can be bought at tri or swim stores or online through tri & wetsuit retailers. Definitely practice with it--I got some really nasty chafe with it despite lube. That said, in a swim cap sandwich they keep your hair dry and your head toasty. I've heard that the Blue Seventy booties are better than most, FWIW. A friend of mine is doing Alcatraz. I just pinged him to ask. |
2013-02-13 12:06 PM in reply to: #4620710 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED rrrunner - 2013-02-13 11:03 AM Actually, manatees hate cold water; so you are right were you belong! Other than that, I have nothing useful to add OK, I realize that as a Manatee I shouldn't have a problem swimming in cold water But... as Oceanside draws near I am working more on the details i.e. nutrition, race gear, etc, and I am wondering about using a neoprene cap and possibly booties, if the water is cold enough. I've never tried either of these items and wonder about everyones' experience with them. I've read that the neoprene cap is too "floaty" and that a silicone or two under the race cap it better. I've also read that the booties fill with water and become more trouble than they are worth. Should I get these items and try them at the pool? Where does one find these items? Sporting good stores? The interwebs? Talk to me. |
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2013-02-13 12:59 PM in reply to: #4620818 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED amd723 - 2013-02-13 11:06 AM rrrunner - 2013-02-13 11:03 AM Actually, manatees hate cold water; so you are right were you belong! Other than that, I have nothing useful to add OK, I realize that as a Manatee I shouldn't have a problem swimming in cold water But... as Oceanside draws near I am working more on the details i.e. nutrition, race gear, etc, and I am wondering about using a neoprene cap and possibly booties, if the water is cold enough. I've never tried either of these items and wonder about everyones' experience with them. I've read that the neoprene cap is too "floaty" and that a silicone or two under the race cap it better. I've also read that the booties fill with water and become more trouble than they are worth. Should I get these items and try them at the pool? Where does one find these items? Sporting good stores? The interwebs? Talk to me. Well there ya go! |
2013-02-13 1:17 PM in reply to: #4602563 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED YIKES! IT'S NEAR AND DEAR AND REAL, folks!!! I think I'm spozed to go do a race in Hobbitland, or somefink.
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2013-02-13 1:22 PM in reply to: #4620956 |
Master 6595 Rio Rancho, NM | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 12:17 PM YIKES! IT'S NEAR AND DEAR AND REAL, folks!!! I think I'm spozed to go do a race in Hobbitland, or somefink.
That's so awesome!!! It's not showing up in Irontrac yet I've been watching the Oceanside site for the new Athlete Guide and the bib numbers to show up. |
2013-02-13 1:25 PM in reply to: #4620956 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 11:17 AM YIKES! IT'S NEAR AND DEAR AND REAL, folks!!! I think I'm spozed to go do a race in Hobbitland, or somefink.
Ooooooh, a palindromic race number! That's gotta be good luck.
I'm having a case of the blahs the past couple days. I hoping it's not SAD catching up with me--it is the right time for me, end of Feb is usually the worst. I've given myself a double dose of my light today.... Edited by bcraht 2013-02-13 1:26 PM |
2013-02-13 1:28 PM in reply to: #4602563 |
Master 4452 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED Speaking of honey...my work wife is a beekeeper and I often find jars of honey magically appear on my desk. Nothing like a spoonful straight outta the jar! |
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2013-02-13 2:02 PM in reply to: #4620353 |
Veteran 659 East Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED KansasMom - 2013-02-13 8:30 AM JJ- - 2013-02-13 8:24 AM Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. cr@p. Was the run solid running? Have you tried some kind of run/walk -- like two minutes run, one minute walk. Do you think that might make a difference? It was solid run this morning, did not try walk/run |
2013-02-13 2:03 PM in reply to: #4620339 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED JJ- - 2013-02-13 9:24 AM Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. OK, I have typed and retyped, gone back and forth, walked away and came back to this. Evidently, I feel your pain, at least the decision part if not the injury part. I think you might be best served to not decide yet. Maybe wait a couple more weeks, then see. You might have to re-assess at that point and if the pain is too much, make the decision to not do it. You might find that things loosen up to the point that you can complete the race, maybe not to the level you'd like, but still get it done. You might be well on your way to comfort since it has been only a week of recovery. But whatever the case, you don't necessarily have to decide just yet. I'm going to remain hopeful that you can do the race, especially given the effort that has gone into it at this point. No matter what is decided, we are behind you. |
2013-02-13 2:06 PM in reply to: #4620377 |
Veteran 659 East Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED jmkizer - 2013-02-13 8:37 AM JJ- - 2013-02-13 9:24 AM Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. This is not what we wanted to hear! How are the bike and swim doing? Have you seen the PT? Does walking bother you or is it only running that is problematic? What does your coach say (assuming that you trust coach and if you don't that's another can of worms)? If you do a brick workout, does your IT band act up? In other words, if you are really really warmed up, does that make a difference? Are you icing?
I haven't biked or swam, just been a couch potato like my docs said so I could heal. Have not seen a PT. Was feeling great yesterday no issues at all that's why I tried to run this morning. Now that I ran 20 minutes I can feel it when I walk so I must have re-aggravated it. My coach and I haven't talked much. She knows it's a problem and says I still have aplenty of time for Galveston. I have not tried running after the bike (warmed up) but I have read where that did help someone. I think I'm going to try that in the morning. Icing 2 x daily |
2013-02-13 2:07 PM in reply to: #4620703 |
Veteran 659 East Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED Richardsdrr - 2013-02-13 11:00 AM JJ- - 2013-02-13 1:24 PM How are you on the run and swim? If you're ok on doing those, and its not causing any further damage, couldn't you do just the swim and bike part of the course for the experience, and practice in transition etc. By then you may be up to walk, or even walk/jog the run part. Considering you will be attending anyway due to condo situation, it may be an idea.Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. The only thing holding me back was the mental DNF on my very first half-iron. |
2013-02-13 2:11 PM in reply to: #4621044 |
Veteran 659 East Texas | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED cdban66 - 2013-02-13 2:03 PM JJ- - 2013-02-13 9:24 AM Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. OK, I have typed and retyped, gone back and forth, walked away and came back to this. Evidently, I feel your pain, at least the decision part if not the injury part. I think you might be best served to not decide yet. Maybe wait a couple more weeks, then see. You might have to re-assess at that point and if the pain is too much, make the decision to not do it. You might find that things loosen up to the point that you can complete the race, maybe not to the level you'd like, but still get it done. You might be well on your way to comfort since it has been only a week of recovery. But whatever the case, you don't necessarily have to decide just yet. I'm going to remain hopeful that you can do the race, especially given the effort that has gone into it at this point. No matter what is decided, we are behind you. I completely agree with this and think it's good advice. I am going to remain positive and bike and swim all the way up to the race. If I'm able to run between now and then that's great too. I did run 5 minutes longer today than last time so maybe thats a sign of good things to come. |
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2013-02-13 2:12 PM in reply to: #4621062 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED JJ- - 2013-02-14 4:07 AM Richardsdrr - 2013-02-13 11:00 AM JJ- - 2013-02-13 1:24 PM How are you on the run and swim? If you're ok on doing those, and its not causing any further damage, couldn't you do just the swim and bike part of the course for the experience, and practice in transition etc. By then you may be up to walk, or even walk/jog the run part. Considering you will be attending anyway due to condo situation, it may be an idea.Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. The only thing holding me back was the mental DNF on my very first half-iron. I say this with enormous and not in one tiny way faked cheerfulness--never let a possible or actual DNF prevent you from having a blast at a quirky-distance race! I mean, I am still the Indonesian champion at the 3.9km/182km/32km distance. It ain't a DNF. It's a go out and gittem. And if you decide not to do it, it still can be a help-others-gittem situation. |
2013-02-13 2:13 PM in reply to: #4621065 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED JJ- - 2013-02-13 3:11 PM cdban66 - 2013-02-13 2:03 PM JJ- - 2013-02-13 9:24 AM Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. OK, I have typed and retyped, gone back and forth, walked away and came back to this. Evidently, I feel your pain, at least the decision part if not the injury part. I think you might be best served to not decide yet. Maybe wait a couple more weeks, then see. You might have to re-assess at that point and if the pain is too much, make the decision to not do it. You might find that things loosen up to the point that you can complete the race, maybe not to the level you'd like, but still get it done. You might be well on your way to comfort since it has been only a week of recovery. But whatever the case, you don't necessarily have to decide just yet. I'm going to remain hopeful that you can do the race, especially given the effort that has gone into it at this point. No matter what is decided, we are behind you. I completely agree with this and think it's good advice. I am going to remain positive and bike and swim all the way up to the race. If I'm able to run between now and then that's great too. I did run 5 minutes longer today than last time so maybe thats a sign of good things to come. This is your best tool! |
2013-02-13 2:14 PM in reply to: #4620986 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED bcraht - 2013-02-13 2:28 PM Speaking of honey...my work wife is a beekeeper and I often find jars of honey magically appear on my desk. Nothing like a spoonful straight outta the jar! Freakin' YUM!!!!! |
2013-02-13 2:41 PM in reply to: #4620956 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 2:17 PM YIKES! IT'S NEAR AND DEAR AND REAL, folks!!! I think I'm spozed to go do a race in Hobbitland, or somefink.
Woo hoo! |
2013-02-13 2:45 PM in reply to: #4621062 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED JJ- - 2013-02-13 3:07 PM Richardsdrr - 2013-02-13 11:00 AM JJ- - 2013-02-13 1:24 PM How are you on the run and swim? If you're ok on doing those, and its not causing any further damage, couldn't you do just the swim and bike part of the course for the experience, and practice in transition etc. By then you may be up to walk, or even walk/jog the run part. Considering you will be attending anyway due to condo situation, it may be an idea.Ok Manatees, 52 days out from my 70.3........What to do?? Did everything Dr prescribed, was a couch potato for a full week. 2 cortisone shots, massage, foam roller, stretching, celebrex, even using a rx anti-inflammatory topical lotion. Today went out for my first jog and made it 20 minutes before it was uncomfortable. That's 5 minutes longer than last time. At this point I just don't know what to do. I've already paid for non-refundable Condo so I will be going to the race whether I can participate or not. If I cancel my registration I can at least get $75 back. I can't afford another road trip and half ironman this year so if I decide not to do this then I dunno.......I know it's just one race but I've put alot of work into this. The only thing holding me back was the mental DNF on my very first half-iron. If you intend for it to be an aquabike, then it's not a DNF. In fact, any two-footed locomotion after that would be bonus 'cause the aquabike would be done! |
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2013-02-13 2:48 PM in reply to: #4620606 |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED cdban66 - 2013-02-13 11:16 AM melbo55 - 2013-02-13 10:58 AM A question for the sages that are the manatees: I am in week 2 of my half marathon plan, running 3 miles Tues, Wed and Thurs with a 5 mile long run scheduled for Sat. However, I have a 5K race on Sunday, so I'm thinking running 5 miles Sat. may not be the best idea, but I don't want to skimp out on my training, either. Thought about not running Sat. and doing the 5K Sunday and then doing the extra 2 miles at some point after the race. Thoughts? Depends on effort. Swapping Sat for Sun shouldn't be a big deal. If you are going full out "Race", then I wouldn't be too concerned about the extra mileage. If the effort is going to be consistent with training pace, then add the extra two after you finish. How long is the training plan? Which plan is it? Higdon has a couple of races (5 & 10K) built into his beginner plan, but they are later in the program. Keep in mind that I just recently started adding volume to my running and I am only so knowledgable I'm following Higdon's Novice 2 plan, which has a 5K race at 6 weeks and a 10K race at 9 weeks. Thanks to everyone's responses, I will weigh each one out and help them bias my decision. Edited to fix a stupid spelling error. Following, not gollowing. Edited by melbo55 2013-02-13 2:52 PM |
2013-02-13 2:50 PM in reply to: #4621143 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED melbo55 - 2013-02-13 3:48 PM cdban66 - 2013-02-13 11:16 AM melbo55 - 2013-02-13 10:58 AM A question for the sages that are the manatees: I am in week 2 of my half marathon plan, running 3 miles Tues, Wed and Thurs with a 5 mile long run scheduled for Sat. However, I have a 5K race on Sunday, so I'm thinking running 5 miles Sat. may not be the best idea, but I don't want to skimp out on my training, either. Thought about not running Sat. and doing the 5K Sunday and then doing the extra 2 miles at some point after the race. Thoughts? Depends on effort. Swapping Sat for Sun shouldn't be a big deal. If you are going full out "Race", then I wouldn't be too concerned about the extra mileage. If the effort is going to be consistent with training pace, then add the extra two after you finish. How long is the training plan? Which plan is it? Higdon has a couple of races (5 & 10K) built into his beginner plan, but they are later in the program. Keep in mind that I just recently started adding volume to my running and I am only so knowledgable I'm gollowing Higdon's Novice 2 plan, which has a 5K race at 6 weeks and a 10K race at 9 weeks. Thanks to everyone's responses, I will weigh each one out and help them bias my decision. Higdon got me through HM #1 |
2013-02-13 2:51 PM in reply to: #4620956 |
Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 2:17 PM YIKES! IT'S NEAR AND DEAR AND REAL, folks!!! I think I'm spozed to go do a race in Hobbitland, or somefink.
Awesome!!! So exciting!! But I must admit the developer in me sees 404 as a server error, LOL! But not for you; do the ol' upside down calculator trick and it spells hoh (no, not in a bad way, as in onward, hoh!!) OK, I'll shut up now. |
2013-02-13 2:53 PM in reply to: #4620956 |
Master 6834 Englewood, Florida | Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors, Part 2! CLOSED TriAya - 2013-02-13 2:17 PM YIKES! IT'S NEAR AND DEAR AND REAL, folks!!! I think I'm spozed to go do a race in Hobbitland, or somefink.
How did I miss this???? Freakin' WooHoo!!!!!! #404, prepare to be stalked, er watched. |
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