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2008-01-16 2:50 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! In response to the indoor cycling questions-- It CAN be incredible for "real" cycling, and is even more ideal in some ways because YOU can do perfect pedal stroke drills, plan terrain exactly, follow very exact intervals, and (provided you're using the correct amount of resistance) there's no coasting. You can develop a great deal of focus. There's also the group motivation/music/setting aspect. I know many folks, including several Ironman(R) triathletes, two of them podium-pounders, for whom indoor cycling training is a fundamental part of their cycling training. There are really two keys. The best one is if you can find a top-notch instructor, one who understands coaching, periodization, the needs of multisport athletes, and is preferably a road cyclist or multisport athlete. The second is know thyself--go at your own pace and adapt whatever is going on in the class to YOUR needs. |
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2008-01-16 7:25 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Expert 973 Berkeley, Calif. | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Man, I hate it so much when I'm busy at work! No fun at all, especially when it takes away from key Internet play-time. Yanti, I have another indoor cycling question. For now I've been sticking to a stationary, one that's as close to my road bike as I can find (which, honestly, isn't close at all), while I work up the nerve to do a spin class. I don't have any sort of gadgets on my road bike so I have no clue about my cadence, RPM, etc. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what a lot of that means, although I will do my research like a good girl at some point. For now, I'm still just getting used to getting on my bike and GOING. Anyway, that's a long introduction to my question: What should be my range of RPM on a stationary bike? For some reason I got it in my head that I should try to stick above 100 RPM, and I certainly get a good workout that way, but after reading your spin class post now I'm wondering if that's too fast. Like, maybe I should be upping the resistance and lowering my RPM to 80-90? |
2008-01-16 8:11 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 1284 Victoria BC | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! I have yet done a spin class but I really want to just hard to get a seat in the ones offered at the Y where I go. Either that or they are offered to late and I am at work already. |
2008-01-16 8:18 PM in reply to: #1160687 |
Master 2235 Pacific Northwest | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Fielding - 2008-01-16 5:25 PM What should be my range of RPM on a stationary bike? For some reason I got it in my head that I should try to stick above 100 RPM, and I certainly get a good workout that way, but after reading your spin class post now I'm wondering if that's too fast. Like, maybe I should be upping the resistance and lowering my RPM to 80-90? I think 80-90 is good, although it will be slower with more resistance. When I ride outdoors and am really in the groove, it's usually about 90. I know on spinervals 1.0 they have you ride as fast as you can for a few seconds at a time and I once got over 150 sustained for about 5 seconds. That was nuts! On the spin bikes at the gym I usually try to hang in the 90 zone when I can, although when we are standing I cannot go that fast no matter what. On my trainer, when I stand up, it is really awkward and I feel like I will be pulling the bike off the trainer (which I have done) so I take it easier then. I have noticed that after doing spin classes this winter, I can ride in a much higher gear on my trainer, for longer periods, so that must be doing something! |
2008-01-16 8:18 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 2235 Pacific Northwest | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Oh hey, 2 more posts and I hit 400! |
2008-01-16 8:19 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 1284 Victoria BC | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! It is my baby boy's first birthday today. I think I am gonna have a can of Root Beer and celebrate. Can't believe he is one already |
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2008-01-16 8:19 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 2235 Pacific Northwest | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Had to do it. Happy hump day! |
2008-01-16 8:20 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 1284 Victoria BC | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Happy 400th post |
2008-01-16 8:21 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 1284 Victoria BC | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Hey how come you are an extreme veteran and I am just a veteran?? What is up with that? |
2008-01-16 8:34 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 2235 Pacific Northwest | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! I pay extra for the title. Nah. Who knows, but I think it has something to do with posts in the last 90 days or something....isn't it on that page that was linked here earlier? Happy Bday to your son. One is such a cute age. Now two.....it's hard!!! My kids are bouncing off the walls tonight. Thankfully I am leaving for a meeting in a few!! |
2008-01-16 8:59 PM in reply to: #1160804 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Medusa_Ann - 2008-01-16 7:34 PM I pay extra for the title. Nah. Who knows, but I think it has something to do with posts in the last 90 days or something....isn't it on that page that was linked here earlier? Happy Bday to your son. One is such a cute age. Now two.....it's hard!!! My kids are bouncing off the walls tonight. Thankfully I am leaving for a meeting in a few!! Beth is a star and title expert ( Stars are dependent both on post count AND duration of membership. To take my own count as an example: over 3200 would normally be Elite, except that you also need to have been a member for 300 days, and I'm two days short. So Shawn, even though you may have more posts, Leslie has been a member longer. If I keep patiently explaining stars and titles, I will get another pretty pink one, and have four like Leslie soon!!! |
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2008-01-16 9:08 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 1284 Victoria BC | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! ahhh I see I have only been a member for 82 days or something like that. 8 More days and I move up a rank!!!! |
2008-01-16 9:27 PM in reply to: #1160687 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Erin on cadence Fielding - 2008-01-16 6:25 PM Man, I hate it so much when I'm busy at work! No fun at all, especially when it takes away from key Internet play-time. I know, I mean, the nerve. And for us, Internet play-time = BT addiction (as if being addicted to tris themselves weren't enough), and employers just don't seem to understand if we don't get our fix we are going to be USELESS at work. What should be my range of RPM on a stationary bike? For some reason I got it in my head that I should try to stick above 100 RPM, and I certainly get a good workout that way, but after reading your spin class post now I'm wondering if that's too fast. Like, maybe I should be upping the resistance and lowering my RPM to 80-90? Here's a really good article on the matter--it's a little involved, but bear with it. The matches analogy is particularly good. Ask if there's anything you want to know more about. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=433 To answer your question more directly, 100 is fine, but so is 80 (especially if you're just starting out). A little trick test, whether on a stationary or the road, is--are you bouncing in the saddle? If so, up the resistance or gear down. |
2008-01-16 9:49 PM in reply to: #1160920 |
Master 1870 Fort Worth | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! TriAya - 2008-01-16 7:27 PM Erin on cadence Fielding - 2008-01-16 6:25 PM Man, I hate it so much when I'm busy at work! No fun at all, especially when it takes away from key Internet play-time. I know, I mean, the nerve. And for us, Internet play-time = BT addiction (as if being addicted to tris themselves weren't enough), and employers just don't seem to understand if we don't get our fix we are going to be USELESS at work. What should be my range of RPM on a stationary bike? For some reason I got it in my head that I should try to stick above 100 RPM, and I certainly get a good workout that way, but after reading your spin class post now I'm wondering if that's too fast. Like, maybe I should be upping the resistance and lowering my RPM to 80-90? Here's a really good article on the matter--it's a little involved, but bear with it. The matches analogy is particularly good. Ask if there's anything you want to know more about. http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=433 To answer your question more directly, 100 is fine, but so is 80 (especially if you're just starting out). A little trick test, whether on a stationary or the road, is--are you bouncing in the saddle? If so, up the resistance or gear down. Yanti thanks for all the good stuff you put out on spinning. I just got the trainer this month and I bought Spinerval 1.0. Obviously I already tried it at home but I felt that the high rate of cadence wasn't beneficial to me. Hence it is good to hear that lowering the cadence and increasing the intensity is the smart thing to do. I was already planning on that but it was good to get feedback. I plan on picking up more gear at performance by the end of the month so I can track cadence. |
2008-01-16 9:51 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Master 1284 Victoria BC | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! I think I should get the cadence sensor for my Garmin 305 and get that set up. HR on the bike I don't think would be as beneficial stat as cadence |
2008-01-16 9:54 PM in reply to: #1160975 |
Master 1870 Fort Worth | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! ShawnC13 - 2008-01-16 7:51 PM I think I should get the cadence sensor for my Garmin 305 and get that set up. HR on the bike I don't think would be as beneficial stat as cadence Actually I'm glad you said that. I have the Garmin 305 as well and forgot you could get the cadence sensor. Thanks. Now to figure out how much it costs and were they sell it. |
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2008-01-16 9:55 PM in reply to: #1160767 |
Master 1870 Fort Worth | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! ShawnC13 - 2008-01-16 6:19 PM It is my baby boy's first birthday today. I think I am gonna have a can of Root Beer and celebrate. Can't believe he is one already Happy Birthday to the baby boy! |
2008-01-16 9:56 PM in reply to: #1160985 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! HCS5QA - 2008-01-16 8:55 PM ShawnC13 - 2008-01-16 6:19 PM It is my baby boy's first birthday today. I think I am gonna have a can of Root Beer and celebrate. Can't believe he is one already Happy Birthday to the baby boy! Oh man, how did I miss that? CONGRATULATIONS!!! That is so beautiful. I know you run yourself ragged, but in some ways I am envious. |
2008-01-16 10:27 PM in reply to: #1160982 |
Melon Presser 52116 | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Cadence sensors HCS5QA - 2008-01-16 8:54 PM ShawnC13 - 2008-01-16 7:51 PM I think I should get the cadence sensor for my Garmin 305 and get that set up. HR on the bike I don't think would be as beneficial stat as cadence Actually I'm glad you said that. I have the Garmin 305 as well and forgot you could get the cadence sensor. Thanks. Now to figure out how much it costs and were they sell it. As far as toys go, I think heart rate monitors and bike computers are top choices (but by no means necessary). I don't have cadence on my road bike, but all the Spinner(R) bikes at work have them, and I've just learned to "feel" different cadences, like I know what different running paces are (to the 15 seconds/mile!) Sometimes on my road bike, as a reality check (and useful tool for those of you without bike comps or cadence sensors), I just do the count-my-revolutions for 30s and multiply by two to get RPM. |
2008-01-17 10:44 AM in reply to: #1160920 |
Expert 851 Oceanside, CA | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! TriAya - 2008-01-16 7:27 PM 100 is fine, but so is 80 (especially if you're just starting out). A little trick test, whether on a stationary or the road, is--are you bouncing in the saddle? If so, up the resistance or gear down. I was going to ask about this this morning. I'm staying between 80 and 95 but with no resistence. I'm not bouncing in the saddle either. DH was telling me last night that upping my resistence may help with the saddle bruising I'm getting since more resistence may bring me out of the saddle a little. I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Also, am I the only one who's afraid of their bike? That locking my feet in thing scares the crap out of me. I admit I have not been out on the street clipped in, just on the trainer, and I find it scarey there. |
2008-01-17 1:13 PM in reply to: #1161778 |
Extreme Veteran 330 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! MrsUSMC - 2008-01-17 10:44 AM TriAya - 2008-01-16 7:27 PM I was going to ask about this this morning. I'm staying between 80 and 95 but with no resistence. I'm not bouncing in the saddle either. DH was telling me last night that upping my resistence may help with the saddle bruising I'm getting since more resistence may bring me out of the saddle a little. I'd love to know your thoughts on this. Also, am I the only one who's afraid of their bike? That locking my feet in thing scares the crap out of me. I admit I have not been out on the street clipped in, just on the trainer, and I find it scarey there.100 is fine, but so is 80 (especially if you're just starting out). A little trick test, whether on a stationary or the road, is--are you bouncing in the saddle? If so, up the resistance or gear down. You're definately not alone Terri! I've only clipped in a few times (in SPIN class) and it takes me forever to get clipped in . . . then I couldn't get unclipped today LOL!! It will be a while before I try on a moving bike! Then again, with the snow we have, I guess I have a while! Good Luck! Renee |
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2008-01-17 1:16 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Extreme Veteran 330 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Yanti, Thanks as always for the great info . . . perfect timing on the spinning tips. Maybe I missed it, but how is your recovery going? Renee |
2008-01-17 1:25 PM in reply to: #1088776 |
Extreme Veteran 330 Omaha, NE | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! Hey everyone! Keeping busy here just TRYING to keep up with work and my winter maintenance training plan . . . I can only imagine what the next several months will bring with a more active plan - OMG! My official plan starts on the 28th already - where has the time gone?! Talk about ups and downs . . . some days I feel sooooo accomplished for what I've finished that day or an improvement I've made and others, I just scare the crap outta myself thinking of all there is to do and learn! Am I crazy here? I am going to signup for an adult swimming stroke improvement class at a local Y tonight. It started last week, so i'm out a class. Still, I think it will be worth it. I am seeing NO improvement in swim speed, though at least endurance has improved greatly. Anyhow I am looking forward to 4-5 sessions with a little instruction! Really hoping it will help with my speed! Better get back to working! Renee |
2008-01-17 1:34 PM in reply to: #1162201 |
Master 2235 Pacific Northwest | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! rreischl - 2008-01-17 11:25 AM Hey everyone! Keeping busy here just TRYING to keep up with work and my winter maintenance training plan . . . I can only imagine what the next several months will bring with a more active plan - OMG! My official plan starts on the 28th already - where has the time gone?! Talk about ups and downs . . . some days I feel sooooo accomplished for what I've finished that day or an improvement I've made and others, I just scare the crap outta myself thinking of all there is to do and learn! Am I crazy here? Renee I am also staring my new plan around the 28th, give or take.....it is intimidating to try to figure out how to fit that into my life....but I am going to really plan it out and not just wing it like I did last season. I will be starting the 16 or 20 wk Oly plan. You? I also am reading a book called The Triathletes Guide to Swim Training which has a swimming program laid out for 12 weeks, very nice for someone like me who has no idea what to do once I am in the water. It requires 3 sessions a week, so hopefully it will coordinate with the Oly plan. I need to sit and focus on it all for a bit before I get started.......I will do it.....I will! |
2008-01-17 5:46 PM in reply to: #1157519 |
TinkerBeth 23096 Liverpool, New York | Subject: RE: TriAya's Group: SHUT like dog on steak, sorry! HCS5QA - 2008-01-15 12:40 PM Medusa_Ann - 2008-01-15 9:06 AM Sounds like that race will be fun!! Wish we had more up here in the NW but the season starts later due to weather. It snowed here last night! Very pretty outside, but I don't have the right shoes to go run in it, so I will be sledding for a while instead. Yeah I remember living in Maryland from 1997 to 2001 and the winters were great, except for the blizards. Now that I've become serious about training and enjoying our sport I wouldn't give up San Diego for nothing due to the almost year round opportunities. you aren't rubbing it in or anything are you? *sigh* I love San Diego! |
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