Manatee Mentors 2014--CLOSED (begging & bribes MAY work) (Page 29)

Thanks Chris, yes I didn't drink enough and it was 31celcius (88F) by the end of the ride. I'm quite used to the heat but I think the prolonged bout of threshold work at the end has really knocked my leg muscles about.

I think I'll just stick to my cruisy z2 rides for the rest of this month. I've got an ocean swim in a couple of weeks (Noosa Swim 2km) so I should be swimming a bit more anyway.

I'm thinking it's both the size & amount of intensity of the ride, making it a big training load to absorb. My HR strap has been a bit goofy for a bit, so no good HR data to break it down like you did. I use power more so. If you've followed any of my rides* you can see a TSS number put in. I would guess this could go well past 150, possibly up close to a Saturday ride I'll do every couple weeks which will be at or just over 200. This could be over what a solid HIM ride would be. I'll usually feel those for a couple days afterward. This is the reason Monday's ride is more moderately hard instead of hard like both Sat & Wed. Given the lag of HR, it's probably more than 44 min in Z4. And that would be a good deal of it for you. Couple that with the overall length of the ride and it's not so surprising you're tired for a few days after.

*I still need to update friends list for all the new people here.

Cannot feel my arse cheeks. Therefor they do not exist? Right? We're gonna need some photos to check I'm up in Edingburgh for the marathon in May, havent been up to bonnie Scotland in a while.

Where in Wales are you Darren, I used to have childhood holidays in Pembrokeshire near Dinas. We went back last year and spent NYE with friends near Swansea - Mumbles. Lots of good memories!

Oh Dazzers. Is there some kind of "get out of jail free" card for Jantastic?

It looks like my prolonged case of food poisoning which suddenly got worse is either typhoid fever (again?!) or bacterial or amoebic dysentery. Things were gross, but now they are REALLY gross. No wonder I was so frickin' tired. (from the fever alone would cause it)

Oh Dazzers. Is there some kind of "get out of jail free" card for Jantastic?

It looks like my prolonged case of food poisoning which suddenly got worse is either typhoid fever (again?!) or bacterial or amoebic dysentery. Things were gross, but now they are REALLY gross. No wonder I was so frickin' tired. (from the fever alone would cause it)

We keep looking, but so far haven't found the right place (mind you, we've lived in Cleveland a couple times over the years - my wife is also from that area - and it helps to lower the bar for other places as far as weather is concerned.  Great city, but not great weather!).

San Diego is nice, but not for us.  I'd do San Francisco, but you need to be gazillionaire these days to live there.  Just don't know Arizona well, but I have heard it's a long way from salt water (kind of important to me - almost moved to Boulder, but same knock on it).  Mid-Altantic gets swampy-hot (lived in Philly for 6 years) … and on and on.

So, where is the perfect place?  Maybe Nice or somewhere in Australia, but for now - it's wherever I can get outside to ride!

Would love to hear where people would live if there were no constraints on them (San Francisco is up there for me, as is splitting the year between the New England coast and someplace warm and sunny (with great fishing) in the winter (HI, the Med., etc.).  But that's not happening (money, kids and family tether us happily to MA for now).  Where would you live?

Matt

It's funny but since I got smashed on my ride last Sunday my legs are still really tired!

All week they've felt heavy and this morning they felt tired even though I didn't push any hills or anything. I looked back at my Strava file form last Sunday and my HR was in Z2 for 35% of the ride, Z3 for 36% and Z4 for 28% or 44mins (for me strava Z4 is HR 160-177).

That Z4 figure is something I would normally completely avoid if I was out doing a long ride so do you think 44mins of it is enough to smash me for the rest of the week???

I drank SO much pool water tonight at masters.  It was stroke night, and I struggled my way through it.  My stomach is still not fully recovered from it yet.  Still feels, um, sloshy.

Originally posted by ernestov Does anybody have a good weight loss method that INCLUDES carbs? I've done the South Beach and lost 32 pounds in four weeks back in 2008 but I started it again and I feel incredibly flat and tired. Maybe one that has moderate level of whole grains or starches, IDK... I really need to drop back down to 158/160lbs, now at 191

Sure. I'm a vegetarian edging toward vegan.  It's a lifestyle more than a diet.

But a note on carbs, carbohydrates aren't bad.  Stay away from the simple sugars.  That makes sense, right?  Less candy and sweets.  Eat complex carbohydrates found in whole grains, fruits and vegetables, and gain all the disease fighting benefits they bring.

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Originally posted by ernestov Does anybody have a good weight loss method that INCLUDES carbs? I've done the South Beach and lost 32 pounds in four weeks back in 2008 but I started it again and I feel incredibly flat and tired. Maybe one that has moderate level of whole grains or starches, IDK... I really need to drop back down to 158/160lbs, now at 191

Sure. I'm a vegetarian edging toward vegan.  It's a lifestyle more than a diet.

But a note on carbs, carbohydrates aren't bad.  Stay away from the simple sugars.  That makes sense, right?  Less candy and sweets.  Eat complex carbohydrates found in whole grains, fruits and vegetables, and gain all the disease fighting benefits they bring.

I am more flexitarian leaning towards vegetarian.....I would love the vegetarian/ vegan folks to share some recipes cause I am running into a rut with them.

Thanks for the advice, I usually allow myself at least 2 complete rest days after a race, it just seems to be what my body needs. That last hammerfest portion of the ride smashed me so looking back I probably needed a decent rest.

Anyway, live and learn! Maybe I'll get a power meter this year? Just need the price to drop a bit more...

Well hydrated!

We keep looking, but so far haven't found the right place (mind you, we've lived in Cleveland a couple times over the years - my wife is also from that area - and it helps to lower the bar for other places as far as weather is concerned.  Great city, but not great weather!).

San Diego is nice, but not for us.  I'd do San Francisco, but you need to be gazillionaire these days to live there.  Just don't know Arizona well, but I have heard it's a long way from salt water (kind of important to me - almost moved to Boulder, but same knock on it).  Mid-Altantic gets swampy-hot (lived in Philly for 6 years) … and on and on.

So, where is the perfect place?  Maybe Nice or somewhere in Australia, but for now - it's wherever I can get outside to ride!

Would love to hear where people would live if there were no constraints on them (San Francisco is up there for me, as is splitting the year between the New England coast and someplace warm and sunny (with great fishing) in the winter (HI, the Med., etc.).  But that's not happening (money, kids and family tether us happily to MA for now).  Where would you live?

Matt

Oh Dazzers. Is there some kind of "get out of jail free" card for Jantastic?

It looks like my prolonged case of food poisoning which suddenly got worse is either typhoid fever (again?!) or bacterial or amoebic dysentery. Things were gross, but now they are REALLY gross. No wonder I was so frickin' tired. (from the fever alone would cause it)

Originally posted by ponderingfox

Originally posted by ernestov Does anybody have a good weight loss method that INCLUDES carbs? I've done the South Beach and lost 32 pounds in four weeks back in 2008 but I started it again and I feel incredibly flat and tired. Maybe one that has moderate level of whole grains or starches, IDK... I really need to drop back down to 158/160lbs, now at 191

Sure. I'm a vegetarian edging toward vegan.  It's a lifestyle more than a diet.

But a note on carbs, carbohydrates aren't bad.  Stay away from the simple sugars.  That makes sense, right?  Less candy and sweets.  Eat complex carbohydrates found in whole grains, fruits and vegetables, and gain all the disease fighting benefits they bring.

Thankfully chocolate is both a vitamin (Vitamin C!) and a complex carb.  Right?

We keep looking, but so far haven't found the right place (mind you, we've lived in Cleveland a couple times over the years - my wife is also from that area - and it helps to lower the bar for other places as far as weather is concerned.  Great city, but not great weather!).

San Diego is nice, but not for us.  I'd do San Francisco, but you need to be gazillionaire these days to live there.  Just don't know Arizona well, but I have heard it's a long way from salt water (kind of important to me - almost moved to Boulder, but same knock on it).  Mid-Altantic gets swampy-hot (lived in Philly for 6 years) … and on and on.

So, where is the perfect place?  Maybe Nice or somewhere in Australia, but for now - it's wherever I can get outside to ride!

Would love to hear where people would live if there were no constraints on them (San Francisco is up there for me, as is splitting the year between the New England coast and someplace warm and sunny (with great fishing) in the winter (HI, the Med., etc.).  But that's not happening (money, kids and family tether us happily to MA for now).  Where would you live?

Matt