SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! (Page 290)

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-10-07 6:51 PM Good luck in your Olympics Doug and Andy!  Rock'em out! 

Tracy - Great news from your PT.  I'm really happy for you.  Maybe next year, you, Doug, and I can do B2B together (a BT MG Relay).  I have family in Wilmington and only live 5 hours away.  I'd be up for any leg.

fattyfatfat - 2009-10-07 4:54 PM

me too after a few.

swbkrun - 2009-10-07 7:23 PM

He wasn't talking about chicken legs.

kt65 - 2009-10-07 5:46 PM
Suzy, is your high 150's/low 160's still Z3 or is it low Z4?  I think that would be helpful for Sam to know.  I am curious too,   as my HR is super weird and we are still trying to figure me out.  All of my long runs thus far have been in Z1 (low) at 9:00-9:25/mi pace.  I am doing a 17 mile run this Sunday and have been told to keep it in Z2 which for me is 139-148.  Which is going to feel MUCH harder.  We'll see how it goes. 

Sam, as you have been doing speedwork, is your effort on the last few intervals how you felt at the end of the Army 10 miler?  Or do you have gas in the tank.  High Z4 is quite an effort, I don't know that one can do that for a full 26.2 miles.  On the other hand, if it feels more like how it feels when you are in the middle of a tempo run, then that might be definitely manageable.  My race pace runs are only about 7 miles long and I usually feel really strong throughout.  Maybe you can try a shorter MP run this week before your long run and see what your HR is and how it feels?

fattyfatfat - 2009-10-07 6:03 PM

what!?! 

you have any pedals lying around you want to get rid of for cheap?   i just broke an older look.

TrevorC - 2009-10-07 6:44 PM getting ready to jump on the trainer for the 1st time this year. blahhhhh
might have the wife convinced to do a 1/2 marathon next month. I'd run it at her pace. We'll see what she decides.

swbkrun - 2009-10-07 8:53 PM

You mean she'll run w/ you???  !!! Trevor racing/training w/ Kim is really the BEST experience!  We absolutely love it!  I hope it works for you guys!

TrevorC - 2009-10-07 8:16 PM

So just got off the trainer. 1st real time I've ridden it. Is it really uncomforable? I'm on a new bike(roadie), but it seems to fit me fine. I just noticed getting down on the rings seem awkward. I do have a brace under the front tire to lift it up. It just feels weird dropping down on the rings. Maybe the bars are too low?

I've got my garmin speed/cadense synched up on it as well. Does the speed seem artifiially high? I did 20k in 32 minutes, which isn't too far off a good hard pace for me. But at times it was showing me at 30 miles/hr.....  And when you get on it, do you basically just turn the crank on the back until it just slightly brushed up aginst the back tire? It's smelly isn't it?
Yes I am a NEWBIE!! Stop making fun of me!!

Have a good night all.

swbkrun - 2009-10-07 9:51 PM

Do you want to stay w/ look?  I think I have a "few" pairs of SPD.... We are currently using Look on 4 bikes, so not yet...

fattyfatfat - 2009-10-08 8:14 AM

i do simply becasue i only have one pair of shoes.  thanks though.  anyone else before i head off to the classified's, c-clist, etc..  thanks.

dalessit - 2009-10-08 8:02 AM

Nope, only Speedplay here, it's what the fast folks use

kt65 - 2009-10-08 12:39 AM

Glad you had fun on the trainer, Trevor!  I usually have a fan blowing right on the back tire but tilted up towards me because I sweat buckets on the trainer.  This helps keep the rubber from burning (and smelling).  I think for my Kurt Kinetic trainer (fluid) they recommend that once you tighten the crank, you should be able to spin the wheel about one revolution.  I have figured out the optimal position, by doing a flat outdoor ride in a hard gear (measure the distance and the time)  And then do the same timed ride in the hardest gear and see if you can get close to the same distance.  I did 5 miles and then adjusted the crank accordingly.  Now, I have a piece of scotch tape at the 12 oclock position so it is always the same!  I'm sure there is an easier way, but my rides with HR and pace seem really close (outdoors vs. trainer). 

dalessit - 2009-10-08 8:02 AM

Nope, only Speedplay here, it's what the fast folks use

Plainsman AU - 2009-10-08 9:10 AM

You REALLY didn't just say that did you? 

dalessit - 2009-10-08 7:02 AM

Nope, only Speedplay here, it's what the fast folks use

fattyfatfat - 2009-10-08 7:16 AM


I have a KK Road Machine too but I'm not sure I'm following this. So let me ask this dumb question.  The "crank".  Are you talking about the black adjustment knob in the back that moves the roller?   If so then the number of times you turn this as long as its between 2 & 5 (spec) doesn't matter.  < 2 you might not make full contact and >5 you are over tightening it.  The resistance in a fluid trainer is provided by the fluid itself.     So tire tension provided by  the "tightness" of the crank or adjustment knob as KK calls it does not set the resistance on this specific trainer.  (or technically any fluid trainer)

I might have missed it Trevor but what kind of trainer do you have?

As far as your cadence.  Are you using the GSC10?   If so, the default tire size is 700 x 23.  Is this your tire size?    

x 10000  on the fan Kim.

BigReub - 2009-10-08 8:55 AM Trevor, have you ridden outside since getting the cadence/speed sensor installed?  It will calibrate itself if you are outside and the Garmin has a satelite signal.  It will be correct then.  I know mine feels very accurate when on the trainer.

fattyfatfat - 2009-10-08 9:58 AM

Good thing try but he shouldn't have to.  edit.  but then again he really should if it says 30 mph. ;-)

How was the trip?

Jeepguy2358 - 2009-10-07 7:51 PM Good luck in your Olympics Doug and Andy!  Rock'em out! 

Tracy - Great news from your PT.  I'm really happy for you.  Maybe next year, you, Doug, and I can do B2B together (a BT MG Relay).  I have family in Wilmington and only live 5 hours away.  I'd be up for any leg.

TrevorC - 2009-10-08 8:50 AM
I have a Blackburn fluid. Yes using the GSC10. yes thats the tire size too. Another thing I noticed is it felt kind of choppy riding every time i shuffled around in the seat.....weird or normal?