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 2009-06-25 11:20 AM in reply to: #2242541 |
Master  1853     syracuse |  Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol--lean proteins, veggies, fruits & nuts. i should add, this is very little restriction. with 2 workouts/day, I have 4 opportunities to consume grains/high GI. Even with only 1 w/o, I have 2. I sould add, after only 1 week of doing this, my energy is more level thoughout the day. I still drink coffee and drink booze. we have an annual keg party in Sept/Oct. only requirment is you must do a keg stand before you leave. All BTers welcome. Edited by cusetri 2009-06-25 11:31 AM |
| 2009-06-25 11:28 AM in reply to: #2241877 |
| Regular 408 | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- I have one beer after working out from time to time. I did last night. I really don't think it is going to hurt anything. I consume a scary amount of caffene. I really don't think the caffene is going to hurt training. I am a competitive person and want to win but I also want to enjoy life. Believe my workout makes it so I deserve the beer. It is something I look forward to. |
| 2009-06-25 11:38 AM in reply to: #2241877 |
Member 159 | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- You never know when life is going to throw a curveball, if you are performing well & you are happy do what works for you & what you enjoy in moderation & ENJOY!!!! |
| 2009-06-25 11:48 AM in reply to: #2241877 |
Member 122 Kinnelon, NJ | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- I bust my hide, so I think it's ok to reward myself with a few beers every weekend or after an intense race. I'm a coffee junkie and need 1 cup every morning. Just 1 does the trick for me. |
| 2009-06-25 12:08 PM in reply to: #2242083 |
Master 1699 Malvern, PA | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- mmrocker13 - 2009-06-25 10:16 AM I think the tiny, mini, eensy, weensy possible gains I may make by giving up my thermos of coffee in the AM and my alcohol in the...other times would not come even close to offsetting the annoyance I would have at giving up those two things. they still make thermos' ?
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| 2009-06-25 12:17 PM in reply to: #2242578 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- bartturner - 2009-06-25 9:28 AM I have one beer after working out from time to time. I did last night. I really don't think it is going to hurt anything. I consume a scary amount of caffene. I really don't think the caffene is going to hurt training. I am a competitive person and want to win but I also want to enjoy life. Believe my workout makes it so I deserve the beer. It is something I look forward to. Hrm. not sure how much a "scary" amount of caffeine is, but you might want to look at some of the studies on nerve dysfunction and long term caffeine consumption. John |
| 2009-06-25 12:25 PM in reply to: #2242482 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- cusetri - 2009-06-25 10:57 AM Bioteknik - 2009-06-25 11:50 AM cusetri - 2009-06-25 9:17 AM I've been really focusing on nutrition lately. Mainly, sticking to protien & nutrient rich foods throughout the day, and only eating grains 1 hour before and 1 hour after I train/race. why are you afraid of eating grain outside of the +/-1 hour training window? That sounds like a weight loss plan, not peak performance plan. didnt say I was affraid of it. interesting article I read by a tri coach. he said there is no point to it. he said its no different than sitting at your desk and eating a gel packet...why would you do it? both foods have similar effects on your body. The tri coach is wrong. Caffeine can elevate blood glucose levels and indirectly raise insulin levels, but if you're not consuming carbs at the same time, what exactly is that going to do to you? It's the effect EXERCISE has on you. They're not even remotely similar to consume. The coach is talking outta his/her rear. |
| 2009-06-25 12:26 PM in reply to: #2241877 |
Pro 4828 The Land of Ice and Snow | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- I am not human until I have had my latte in the morning.......and usually end my day with a cold Corona. Does it hamper my performance? I dunno. I had my fastest bike split ever the day after drinking with some awesome BT peeps. Perhaps it helped??? |
| 2009-06-25 12:31 PM in reply to: #2242767 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- DerekL - 2009-06-25 1:25 PM cusetri - 2009-06-25 10:57 AM Bioteknik - 2009-06-25 11:50 AM cusetri - 2009-06-25 9:17 AM I've been really focusing on nutrition lately. Mainly, sticking to protien & nutrient rich foods throughout the day, and only eating grains 1 hour before and 1 hour after I train/race. why are you afraid of eating grain outside of the +/-1 hour training window? That sounds like a weight loss plan, not peak performance plan. didnt say I was affraid of it. interesting article I read by a tri coach. he said there is no point to it. he said its no different than sitting at your desk and eating a gel packet...why would you do it? both foods have similar effects on your body. The tri coach is wrong. Caffeine can elevate blood glucose levels and indirectly raise insulin levels, but if you're not consuming carbs at the same time, what exactly is that going to do to you? It's the effect EXERCISE has on you. They're not even remotely similar to consume. The coach is talking outta his/her rear. not sure what you're talking about. in the post you quoted, we were not discussing caffene one bit. also, I would prefer you say I probably screwed up understanding what he wrote and even screwed up trynig to expalin it here, than say he is takling out of his rear without having read what he said in its full text. i'm not going to post it as he is not here to defend himself.... |
| 2009-06-25 12:37 PM in reply to: #2242482 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- cusetri - 2009-06-25 10:57 AM Bioteknik - 2009-06-25 11:50 AM cusetri - 2009-06-25 9:17 AM I've been really focusing on nutrition lately. Mainly, sticking to protien & nutrient rich foods throughout the day, and only eating grains 1 hour before and 1 hour after I train/race. why are you afraid of eating grain outside of the +/-1 hour training window? That sounds like a weight loss plan, not peak performance plan. didnt say I was affraid of it. interesting article I read by a tri coach. he said there is no point to it. he said its no different than sitting at your desk and eating a gel packet...why would you do it? both foods have similar effects on your body. can you post a link to the article? |
| 2009-06-25 12:58 PM in reply to: #2242807 |
Master 1920 Ann Arbor, MI | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- JorgeM - 2009-06-25 1:37 PM cusetri - 2009-06-25 10:57 AM Bioteknik - 2009-06-25 11:50 AM cusetri - 2009-06-25 9:17 AM I've been really focusing on nutrition lately. Mainly, sticking to protien & nutrient rich foods throughout the day, and only eating grains 1 hour before and 1 hour after I train/race. why are you afraid of eating grain outside of the +/-1 hour training window? That sounds like a weight loss plan, not peak performance plan. didnt say I was affraid of it. interesting article I read by a tri coach. he said there is no point to it. he said its no different than sitting at your desk and eating a gel packet...why would you do it? both foods have similar effects on your body. can you post a link to the article? Didn't Joel Friel recently go Palio? I think he has a book out now on the Palio Diet for athletes, maybe that's what 'cuse is referring to... just guessing. |
| 2009-06-25 1:00 PM in reply to: #2241877 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- |
| 2009-06-25 1:02 PM in reply to: #2241877 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- Rob, psueudoyams, did or is doing a paleo diet. Not for me. I like milk, I like grains. I love cheese, that's probably the most processed food I eat. |
| 2009-06-25 1:31 PM in reply to: #2242901 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- bryancd - 2009-06-25 11:02 AM Rob, psueudoyams, did or is doing a paleo diet. Not for me. I like milk, I like grains. I love cheese, that's probably the most processed food I eat. x2. All kinds of cheese. If cheese were nutritionally complete, I'd eat nothing but that. And bacon. Oh, and filet mignon. John And ribs. Smoked, fall off the bone covered in bbq sauce get all over your face ribs. Dang, now I'm hungry again. Bryan, ever been to Kazmiers in Scottsdale? GREAT cheese and fruit plate. |
| 2009-06-25 1:34 PM in reply to: #2242789 |
Champion 8936 | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- cusetri - 2009-06-25 12:31 PM not sure what you're talking about. in the post you quoted, we were not discussing caffene one bit. also, I would prefer you say I probably screwed up understanding what he wrote and even screwed up trynig to expalin it here, than say he is takling out of his rear without having read what he said in its full text. i'm not going to post it as he is not here to defend himself.... The thread's all over the place. I assumed it actually stayed on track when it hadn't. My fault. Ironically, the argument doesn't really change if you substitute "grains" for "caffeine". I tend to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're accurately portraying what he said. If it is indeed accurate, then he's incorrect. There are a lot of "coaches" out there that have no idea what they're talking about on certain subjects. Edited by DerekL 2009-06-25 1:34 PM |
| 2009-06-25 1:35 PM in reply to: #2242979 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- This diet is more paleo based thorughout the day, and added in grains before/after working out.
Edited by cusetri 2009-06-25 1:36 PM |
| 2009-06-25 1:35 PM in reply to: #2242979 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- tkd.teacher - 2009-06-25 1:31 PM Bryan, ever been to Kazmiers in Scottsdale? GREAT cheese and fruit plate. I have, it's awesome! Great wine, too! Opps, Derrick's right, we are really off the thread reservation! |
| 2009-06-25 1:38 PM in reply to: #2242990 |
Master 1853 syracuse | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- DerekL - 2009-06-25 2:34 PM cusetri - 2009-06-25 12:31 PM not sure what you're talking about. in the post you quoted, we were not discussing caffene one bit. also, I would prefer you say I probably screwed up understanding what he wrote and even screwed up trynig to expalin it here, than say he is takling out of his rear without having read what he said in its full text. i'm not going to post it as he is not here to defend himself.... The thread's all over the place. I assumed it actually stayed on track when it hadn't. My fault. Ironically, the argument doesn't really change if you substitute "grains" for "caffeine". I tend to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're accurately portraying what he said. If it is indeed accurate, then he's incorrect. There are a lot of "coaches" out there that have no idea what they're talking about on certain subjects. I agree. i'm not even saying hes right...I'm just looking for discussion on the topic, and its lead to a good conversation, i think at least. |
| 2009-06-25 1:49 PM in reply to: #2241877 |
Master 1920 Ann Arbor, MI | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- Here, to get us back on topic- I like beer. I train hard, so that I feel no guilt whatsoever when I drink a cold beer with my dinner  Specifically, Bell's Two Hearted IPA.  |
| 2009-06-25 2:00 PM in reply to: #2243055 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- jazz82482 - 2009-06-25 1:49 PM Here, to get us back on topic- I like beer. I train hard, so that I feel no guilt whatsoever when I drink a cold beer with my dinner Specifically, Bell's Two Hearted IPA.  I "heart" Alaina...  |
| 2009-06-25 2:26 PM in reply to: #2243097 |
Master 2042 Albany, NY | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- bryancd - 2009-06-25 3:00 PM jazz82482 - 2009-06-25 1:49 PM Here, to get us back on topic- I like beer. I train hard, so that I feel no guilt whatsoever when I drink a cold beer with my dinner Specifically, Bell's Two Hearted IPA. I "heart" Alaina... This is awesome! My husband had this beer (probably one of his post training rewards) and decided to brew a clone. Didn't quite come out the same so we have a "Half Hearted IPA" on tap at home now... |
| 2009-06-25 2:33 PM in reply to: #2243055 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- jazz82482 - 2009-06-25 1:49 PM Here, to get us back on topic- I like beer. I train hard, so that I feel no guilt whatsoever when I drink a cold beer with my dinner Specifically, Bell's Two Hearted IPA. what was the name of the beer you guys had the night we had dinner at your place last summer? I never remeber the name of it but I love that beer! Keren Smyers usually has a beer during pre race dinner or at least I've seen her doing so in more than one ocassion prior Timberman in previous years... |
| 2009-06-25 2:56 PM in reply to: #2243212 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- JorgeM - 2009-06-25 2:33 PM Keren Smyers usually has a beer during pre race dinner or at least I've seen her doing so in more than one ocassion prior Timberman in previous years... Oh, a pre-race evening cocktail is how I get to sleep! My Mom knows Karen very well, actually and I met her in Kona in 2007.Edited by bryancd 2009-06-25 2:57 PM |
| 2009-06-25 4:34 PM in reply to: #2243212 |
| 2009-06-25 5:00 PM in reply to: #2241877 |
| 23 | Subject: RE: Caffene/Alcohol-- Awesome, according to the boards, the three things we all love are: This site, caffeine and alcohol. I concur. |
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