Presidential Election Prediction Poll (not necessarily who are you voting for) (Page 3)

REMINDER: Prior to the 2010 election, the polls predicted a very close race between the two parties, yet the Dems got their azzes handed to them.  Same thing will happen this time.  Romney/Ryan.....Pubs with majority in House and Senate.

One simple reason, people that vote are mostly intelligent and don't like being continually mislead/lied to.

I'm a registered Dem and will vote for R/R.

x2. I can't believe people don't understand that (well maybe people do). The whole Romney campaign seems to revolve around the idea that the economy should be recovered 100 percent by now. Econ101.

As much as I hate to say it, I pick Obama.  Obama will not get my vote, but I can't imagine that he has been vilified enough by his base to lose.....most of them have no clue. (that being said, Romney has not exactly given them a clear alternative)

Stand by for more stupidity.

I must be in the minority that thinks it won't be even close for a Romney win.

The way I see it is that Obama's win in 2008 was helpped by the Anti-Bush sentiment and the historic significance of electing the first african-american president. I don't think anyone who voted McCain in 08 will switch their vote for Obama in 12.

However, I can see some 08 Obama voters switching to Romney in 12.

Fair or not there were very high expectations on Obama to "save" the country which O don't think he has lived up to.

So, it comes down to a numbers game of Obama being able to hang onto as many of his 08 votes as possible. The young adult and aftrican-american community won't be as energized as 08 so some new voters in 08 will just stay away this time around. Independants will probably bleed over to Romney. On top of that, the Republican party will be more energized this time around. The Romney/Ryan ticket is more attractive than McCain/Palin. Add to that the Anti-Obama sentiment and I think it's not even close for Romney.

Really?  That's not the campaign message as I see it.  I think most of the voting public have been around long enough to know that recessions are cyclical and recoveries are slow.  However, with everything that has been thrown at the economy by this administration, things really don't seem to be getting any better for most Americans.  The Romney campaign would be foolish not to use this in their campaign.  However, I have not at all felt they are trying to make voters believe that the economy should have improved 100 percent by now.

Now that's a Racist Statement...Oh Sorry, wrong thread...

I can't deny Romney is boring.  Maybe Paul Ryan will rip off his shirt and start making the whole crowd do P90X at a rally and that'll liven-up R/R?

Tony Horton from P90X was on Fox and Friends this morning.  I can see now several hundred 50 something GOP guys going online and ordering it thinking it's some budget plan or something.

There is some interesting economic theory out there about credit bubble crashes. Most of it says that a recovery from that will take at least a decade. Japan is still going on 2 decades without a real recovery. In politics though, that is not relevant. It's all Obama's fault. If Romney wins it will all be his fault too because it won't be any better in 4 years under either of them. 

As I said several times in this thread a credit bubble popping should take a decade at least to get out from under. That is why I still maintain that whomever is elected the next president will continue to oversee a subpar "recovery" if not an outright recession during their term.

Lets ask President Obama:

"If I can’t fix the economy in three years, you can call me former President Obama" -Obama Feb 2009

I do agree there are limitations to the president, but a true leader with Democratic control of the entire Congress for two years could have most certainly put in place policies to entice and promote growth.  For example a president/congress could put a capital gains tax holiday for 2012 and the stock market would explode higher infusing a ton of capital into the economy.  It would obviously cost a lot of money in lost tax receipts and add to the deficit, but that would get money to the job creators.  I know the Republicans threw around this idea.

Obama/Congress chose to take a different approach giving the money to banks and pet companies (alternative energy, GM, etc...) and it didn't have enough of a positive effect on the economy and it added a bunch to the deficit as well.

I'm not an economist, so I don't know if the cap gains approach would have worked any better, but I do know the Presidents approach did not work and I would trust a businessman with Romney's credentials any day of the week over a guy whose never had to balance a corporate budget in his life.

I think that is attacking the symptom and not the root of the problem. Why are there no jobs being created? There is no demand. People are not confident in the future of the economy and so they are saving and paying off debt. Both of which reversed trend after the recession started.

I think it is because of the long term changes in the economy. The average income has risen 90% not adjusted for inflation over the last 30 years but essential things health care, higher education, food and housing have far outstripped the gains in income. People covered for this by taking on more debt prior to the recession and I think now they are finally realizing that it is not sustainable. I think the economy was over inflated and thus it will take a long time to get back to the place we were in.

I hope they get physicals first.

I don't care about having an exciting President, or one with ripped abs. I don't care about promises of hope and change. What I do care about is someone with vision, the will to carry it forward, and the willingness to negotiate and compromise when necessary for the good of the country. I have a set of issues and beliefs that influence my decision, and select a candidate based on these criteria.

So neither candidate works for me. Obama is a disappointment, hope and change became partisan politics as usual, and Romney/Ryan do not share my core values and priorities.

This election sucks. We're still hemorrhaging money, still at war in places that will never improve, and our infrastructure and education systems are drifting toward third-world status. Unless our elected officials in the House and Senate understand that America is more important than partisan politics, the election has little impact.

I may be too young to have been alive for that, but I think we are in a vastly different position now than we were then. 

Don't forget October of 87 where the stock market crashed because growth and investment suffered due to high interest rates, and the federal government had to reel us out.   National debt doubled under him to greater than 5% GDP and the deficit increased 3 fold.  Under him America went from a creditor nation to a debtor nation and policies encouraged imported goods instead of domestic goods (great for me!!).

Cycles happen.  You can make a case on both sides.  This is all part of it.

This was brought up before but I believe this statement by Obama:

"if I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition."

is highly damaging.  All Romney has to do is keep bringing this up.  Hammer on it.  Keep it fresh in the minds of the voters.  It shows that Obama had his chance and failed. Romney needs to address blacks and lower income demographics and ask them "did you get the hope and change you were promised?"

Why should we give him 4 more years to continue to fail?

As I've said before, I'm willing to go with an unknown Romney over a I-know-what-I'm-getting Obama.

I remember watching that, or at least one time he said it. The context was that he was asked what happens if he does not deliver... he said his statements "this is probably what will happen"... not as "this is what should happen".

Does not change a lot, but that is what it is.

Here is an idea, instead of harping on what Obama said, how about talk about what you plan to do different and how that is going to change things compared to the guy that has the seat now. We all know Obama has not delivered on what he said... funny thing is, 4 years from now if Romney wins I have no doubt we will be saying the same thing about him.

While I won't be actually Voting for Obama. I voted for him in this poll that he will win. 

the odds favor any sitting president by a large margin, and when you look at the Electoral Breakdown he has a large lead there.

now to read the next four pages and see when this thread gets derailed.   top of page 2 is my guess