Racine Vs. Steelhead HIM Challenge - Lake Michigan Rivalry (Page 3)

In all seriousness, what about doing something like avg placement within AG/Clyde/Athena category, time difference from the avg. in your category?  We have to do something that doesn't allow for sandbagging the way the notorious PP Posse cheated at Pleasant Prairie last year.

Whatever method we come up with, I'd like to make one suggestion.  If someone is entered in the Elite Master category then their actual time should be compared to times in their traditional AG (e.g. M45-49) for scoring purposes.  At Racine, the Elite Masters group lumps all master AG together so it's a mix of AG's.  Not sure if Steelhead has an EM category. 

All I know is someone else will have to the math for us, cuz I can barely do it now.  After the race I'll be lucky if I remember how to answer my cell phone.  especially if I whack my freaking head again.

Spreadsheet in about 5 minutes...

I appreciate the compliment, but this is a much bigger group than we had at PP.  I'll do it if everyone wants but I am 0-1.  Not exactly a stellar record.

I will say that I think we can't do anything with time and/or time vs. goals because the races are different and people can over/underestimate their goals.  I don't think percentile works, as Todd pointed out on pg 2, because you could be 5th in your category but if you are 5/5 or 5/30 it's completely different.  I think these are both big enough races that the fields will be similarly competitive, so I think placement in respective categories is the way to go.

Example:

SOR                                   Steelhead

A - 75th M25-29                  X - 64th F40-44
B - 15th Athena                   Y - 49th M30-34
C - 32nd F45-49                  Z - 27th Clydesdale

Total Avg = 40.66        vs.           46.66   SOR WINS!!!!   (You guys should get used to that)

It's objective, leaves out weather and course conditions and difficulty of the course.  I nominate this as the way to grade the competition.

Ok, I went into the MeatSteelhead thread and posted this to try to wake them up to the fact that we want to get a little friendly rivalry going here.  Maybe they'll stop posing in front of the mirror long enough to respond.

Shermbelle - 2007-05-14 4:19 PM That scoring works for me, and contrary to the last 4 or 5 posts, you cheeseheads have as much of a shot of winning as Brett Farve and the Packers do of winning the SuperBowl this year

1.  Just cuz we're doing a race in WI doesn't make us cheeseheads.
2.  You are racing in Michigan.  Do you really want to associate with the state's NFL team as a gauge of your team's chances for success? 

Ok - I also think we need to put a little something on the line here.  We need to decide what it will be.  Avatar switches, sig line change admitting defeat, that kind of thing. 

Beer and sausage!  Duh!