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2010-07-28 11:11 AM
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Kido - 2010-07-28 12:06 PM
LockOut - 2010-07-28 9:01 AM
Kido - 2010-07-28 12:01 PM JUST signed up to volunteer for IMAZ!  Why am I almost as excited as if I signed up for the race itself?  (minus the sick feeling of "what have I done").

Maybe because I did it SO I could sign up for 2011...


Congrats, Kido!  That'll be a great time!  Do you know what you'll be doing? 


Not yet.  1st choice was finish line catcher or hand out T-shirts and hats for the finishers.  I think that would be most inspirational (and I don't have to get up early!)

The third choice was bike handler.  Then I could drool over the machines.

I wanted Women's Changing tent, but I think that would be a hard get!


I'm signed up to vlounteer at IMFL again this year.  Last time I was in the med tent and I figure that's where I'll be this year.  May be they will let me kayak in the AM then work the med tent in the PM.


2010-07-28 11:11 AM
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TriAya - 2010-07-28 11:06 AM
Livestrong191 - 2010-07-29 12:03 AM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 10:58 AM
Livestrong191 - 2010-07-28 11:54 PM


I guess then the Whiips and chain roller coaster ride is canceled then for you Sweet Britichs Cause once you on you never want to get off anywhere else


Britches. BRITCHES!!!!!

Congrats on a super 1K.


BRITCHES = Underwear . Its a southern saying


Exactly. I get it. Don't call her Britichs then. That's just rude.

I'm being an azz with a broomstick up it. Carry on.




KATEEEEEEEEEEEE McFineWineInTheSummerTime plzz help here. Its not a bad term
2010-07-28 11:12 AM
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blueyedbikergirl - 2010-07-28 9:10 AM Whew - and I'm back for a couple of moments... man, today is gonna be busy!

Peter - I'm going to (hopefully) ride up to Kelowna/Penticton for the BC long weekend, then going to be camping from the 3rd to the 9th, I took the 10th off work too (cuz who the h3ll wants to work the day after coming back from vacation?), so I'm not back at work til the 11th!

Oh, and I just signed up to volunteer for IMAZ too!  Going to visit the parents in November so I figured I might as well do something that I'll enjoy while I'm there


Besides "me" of course!  But "enjoy" might be a stretch!
2010-07-28 11:15 AM
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Livestrong191 - 2010-07-29 12:11 AM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 11:06 AM
Livestrong191 - 2010-07-29 12:03 AM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 10:58 AM
Livestrong191 - 2010-07-28 11:54 PM


I guess then the Whiips and chain roller coaster ride is canceled then for you Sweet Britichs Cause once you on you never want to get off anywhere else


Britches. BRITCHES!!!!!

Congrats on a super 1K.


BRITCHES = Underwear . Its a southern saying


Exactly. I get it. Don't call her Britichs then. That's just rude.

I'm being an azz with a broomstick up it. Carry on.




KATEEEEEEEEEEEE McFineWineInTheSummerTime plzz help here. Its not a bad term


Dude. I lived in the South for two years. Not sooooo close to stupid ...

You misspelled B R I T C H E S so that it seemed like you were calling Kate B R I T I S H.

Sweet Britches, she is. BRITISH, she is not. Ew.
2010-07-28 11:15 AM
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Livestrong191 - 2010-07-28 12:11 PM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 11:06 AM
Livestrong191 - 2010-07-29 12:03 AM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 10:58 AM
Livestrong191 - 2010-07-28 11:54 PM


I guess then the Whiips and chain roller coaster ride is canceled then for you Sweet Britichs Cause once you on you never want to get off anywhere else


Britches. BRITCHES!!!!!

Congrats on a super 1K.


BRITCHES = Underwear . Its a southern saying


Exactly. I get it. Don't call her Britichs then. That's just rude.

I'm being an azz with a broomstick up it. Carry on.




KATEEEEEEEEEEEE McFineWineInTheSummerTime plzz help here. Its not a bad term


Sorry Sweet Cheeks even if I have no problem w/ britches I'm always on Yanti's side unless you have something better than {{{melon presses}}} to offer me. 
2010-07-28 11:18 AM
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How many people here in TAN are Managers over others?  I've got a question and didn't really feel like opening it up to CoJ.



2010-07-28 11:18 AM
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crowny2 - 2010-07-28 9:18 AM

How many people here in TAN are Managers over others?  I've got a question and didn't really feel like opening it up to CoJ.



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2010-07-28 11:21 AM
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crowny2 - 2010-07-29 12:18 AM

How many people here in TAN are Managers over others?  I've got a question and didn't really feel like opening it up to CoJ.



Yep. Am, and have always been. What's up, my lovely?
2010-07-28 11:22 AM
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TriAya - 2010-07-28 9:21 AM
crowny2 - 2010-07-29 12:18 AM

How many people here in TAN are Managers over others?  I've got a question and didn't really feel like opening it up to CoJ.



Yep. Am, and have always been. What's up, my lovely?


did I ever say that I follow direction well?  You can deligate me some "tasks".
2010-07-28 11:23 AM
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crowny2 - 2010-07-28 11:18 AM

How many people here in TAN are Managers over others?  I've got a question and didn't really feel like opening it up to CoJ.



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2010-07-28 11:24 AM
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crowny2 - 2010-07-28 12:18 PM

How many people here in TAN are Managers over others?  I've got a question and didn't really feel like opening it up to CoJ.



Sorry not me I have enough trouble managing me, I get into trouble all the time.


2010-07-28 11:27 AM
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Kido - 2010-07-28 11:12 AM
blueyedbikergirl - 2010-07-28 9:10 AM Whew - and I'm back for a couple of moments... man, today is gonna be busy!

Peter - I'm going to (hopefully) ride up to Kelowna/Penticton for the BC long weekend, then going to be camping from the 3rd to the 9th, I took the 10th off work too (cuz who the h3ll wants to work the day after coming back from vacation?), so I'm not back at work til the 11th!

Oh, and I just signed up to volunteer for IMAZ too!  Going to visit the parents in November so I figured I might as well do something that I'll enjoy while I'm there


Besides "me" of course!  But "enjoy" might be a stretch!


Haha! 

Well, we're going to have to go for drinks while we're there... that will definitely be enjoyable!
2010-07-28 11:28 AM
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Hi Monica
2010-07-28 11:30 AM
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Big Appa - 2010-07-29 12:28 AM Hi Monica


I've gone cordless, and it just ain't right.

Plug something in ...
2010-07-28 11:36 AM
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Alright, so here is the situation.

We are in a cube maze.  Two of my employees' cubes are open to each other.  One employee (V) has been with the group quite a while, but can be a bit of a space case and is ultimately starting to bump up to retirement in the next 3-5 years and has little to no ambition to advance. In other words, she is happy doing what she is doing.  The other (M) has her moments but is probably going to be my Star Employee.  She has been doing what she is doing for a while (4-5 years) and is ambitious to advance and learn more and take on more responsibility.

So now that that has been established about their background, V has gotten into a horrible habit lately of just turning in her cube and asking M questions on how to do something and or where something is saved on the Shared Drive.  Some of her questions are about things that she has actually trained M on to begin with.  The constant interruptions have been getting frustrating for M and sometimes she is in the middle of something and when she comes back to it, she has either done something wrong and will need to fix it, or it takes her a while to get back into the thought process she was in.  So it is inefficient.  My initial recommendation to M was to tell V that she would have to wait while she finished what she was working on and it would take 5 or 10 or 15 minutes.  My thought was that V would then get fed up with waiting and jsut do it herself. 

Unfortunately, that isn't working.  Now V is not only waiting for M to tell her what to do when if she were to do it on her own it would take her MUCH less time than waiting.  Sometimes, she is actually just sitting there watching M do her task instead of doing something else, which is awkward for anyone. 

Yesterday it became readily apparent that V is just lazy.  M sent her an email, and V printed it off and then took it over to M and asked "what does this say?".  Fortunately, M handled it appropriately saying "I don't have time to tell you what it says, you will have to read it yourself."  M is very frustrated but also doesn't want to hurt V's feelings.

So, after all that explanation, what could TAN do?

2010-07-28 11:36 AM
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Here, a single serving size of chips is 12g.

TWELVE GRAMS. That's not even half an ounce.


2010-07-28 11:38 AM
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TriAya - 2010-07-28 9:30 AM
Big Appa - 2010-07-29 12:28 AM Hi Monica


I've gone cordless, and it just ain't right.

Plug something in ...


You can call me extension cord, you know when you need something longer

2010-07-28 11:41 AM
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Honestly, Crowny.  YOU are the manager and probably shouldn't have put the responsiblity on "M" in the first place.  Even though, they were good "non colflict" ways to maybe defuse the situation.

But that hasn't worked.  I think you need, as the manager, to pull "V" aside and tell her your observations as you told us.  Be point blank about it.

The short and simple answer.

Edited by Kido 2010-07-28 11:42 AM
2010-07-28 11:41 AM
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Big Appa - 2010-07-28 12:38 PM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 9:30 AM
Big Appa - 2010-07-29 12:28 AM Hi Monica


I've gone cordless, and it just ain't right.

Plug something in ...


You can call me extension cord, you know when you need something longer



Cocky aren't you?
2010-07-28 11:44 AM
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trinnas - 2010-07-28 9:41 AM
Big Appa - 2010-07-28 12:38 PM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 9:30 AM
Big Appa - 2010-07-29 12:28 AM Hi Monica


I've gone cordless, and it just ain't right.

Plug something in ...


You can call me extension cord, you know when you need something longer



Cocky aren't you?


I like it to be a 'surprise'...  Besides, I don't want to set anyone's expectations too high.  But I have yet to disapoint.
2010-07-28 11:44 AM
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crowny2 - 2010-07-29 12:36 AM

Alright, so here is the situation.

We are in a cube maze.  Two of my employees' cubes are open to each other.  One employee (V) has been with the group quite a while, but can be a bit of a space case and is ultimately starting to bump up to retirement in the next 3-5 years and has little to no ambition to advance. In other words, she is happy doing what she is doing.  The other (M) has her moments but is probably going to be my Star Employee.  She has been doing what she is doing for a while (4-5 years) and is ambitious to advance and learn more and take on more responsibility.

So now that that has been established about their background, V has gotten into a horrible habit lately of just turning in her cube and asking M questions on how to do something and or where something is saved on the Shared Drive.  Some of her questions are about things that she has actually trained M on to begin with.  The constant interruptions have been getting frustrating for M and sometimes she is in the middle of something and when she comes back to it, she has either done something wrong and will need to fix it, or it takes her a while to get back into the thought process she was in.  So it is inefficient.  My initial recommendation to M was to tell V that she would have to wait while she finished what she was working on and it would take 5 or 10 or 15 minutes.  My thought was that V would then get fed up with waiting and jsut do it herself. 

Unfortunately, that isn't working.  Now V is not only waiting for M to tell her what to do when if she were to do it on her own it would take her MUCH less time than waiting.  Sometimes, she is actually just sitting there watching M do her task instead of doing something else, which is awkward for anyone. 

Yesterday it became readily apparent that V is just lazy.  M sent her an email, and V printed it off and then took it over to M and asked "what does this say?".  Fortunately, M handled it appropriately saying "I don't have time to tell you what it says, you will have to read it yourself."  M is very frustrated but also doesn't want to hurt V's feelings.

So, after all that explanation, what could TAN do?



Don't know how much of this is appropriate/possible, if there's any kind of procedure/precedent to follow here, and while a really ridiculous situation (on account of V), doesn't need to get blown out of proportion ...

- could M sit down with V and have a heart to heart? Something like "I'm very flattered that you trust me and look to me for guidance, but I'm not able to get my work done ... could you please look it up first or ask (V's immediate supervisor, is that you) before you come to me? Thanks! I really appreciate how friendly you've been."

- if that doesn't work, V's immediate supervisor (you? someone else) needs to have the heart-to-heart, more directly and firmly

- can Human Resources be of any help here? This is really something that would be their domain ...

- noise-cancelling headphones and a Do Not Disturb sign


2010-07-28 11:45 AM
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Big Appa - 2010-07-28 11:28 AM Hi Monica


Morning Cord! 

How's things? 
2010-07-28 11:46 AM
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trinnas - 2010-07-28 9:41 AM
Big Appa - 2010-07-28 12:38 PM
TriAya - 2010-07-28 9:30 AM
Big Appa - 2010-07-29 12:28 AM Hi Monica


I've gone cordless, and it just ain't right.

Plug something in ...


You can call me extension cord, you know when you need something longer



Cocky aren't you?


you said cocky *snerk*
2010-07-28 11:46 AM
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crowny2 - 2010-07-28 11:36 AM

Alright, so here is the situation.

We are in a cube maze.  Two of my employees' cubes are open to each other.  One employee (V) has been with the group quite a while, but can be a bit of a space case and is ultimately starting to bump up to retirement in the next 3-5 years and has little to no ambition to advance. In other words, she is happy doing what she is doing.  The other (M) has her moments but is probably going to be my Star Employee.  She has been doing what she is doing for a while (4-5 years) and is ambitious to advance and learn more and take on more responsibility.

So now that that has been established about their background, V has gotten into a horrible habit lately of just turning in her cube and asking M questions on how to do something and or where something is saved on the Shared Drive.  Some of her questions are about things that she has actually trained M on to begin with.  The constant interruptions have been getting frustrating for M and sometimes she is in the middle of something and when she comes back to it, she has either done something wrong and will need to fix it, or it takes her a while to get back into the thought process she was in.  So it is inefficient.  My initial recommendation to M was to tell V that she would have to wait while she finished what she was working on and it would take 5 or 10 or 15 minutes.  My thought was that V would then get fed up with waiting and jsut do it herself. 

Unfortunately, that isn't working.  Now V is not only waiting for M to tell her what to do when if she were to do it on her own it would take her MUCH less time than waiting.  Sometimes, she is actually just sitting there watching M do her task instead of doing something else, which is awkward for anyone. 

Yesterday it became readily apparent that V is just lazy.  M sent her an email, and V printed it off and then took it over to M and asked "what does this say?".  Fortunately, M handled it appropriately saying "I don't have time to tell you what it says, you will have to read it yourself."  M is very frustrated but also doesn't want to hurt V's feelings.

So, after all that explanation, what could TAN do?



To make it fair to both M and V  you need to hold a small meeting  so they can air-out frustrations infront of each other and you acting like the middle man and keeping the conversation at a respectable level. I think once (V) is faced with (M`s) anger and frustration and hearing it out loud, (V) might get her hitch in her giddy up and be productive again. BUT I would start the meeting off by YOU saying that you noticed that Productivty and Moral is down and you would like to hear options WHY!!! this is happening.
2010-07-28 11:47 AM
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Kido - 2010-07-28 11:41 AM Honestly, Crowny.  YOU are the manager and probably shouldn't have put the responsiblity on "M" in the first place.  Even though, they were good "non colflict" ways to maybe defuse the situation.

But that hasn't worked.  I think you need, as the manager, to pull "V" aside and tell her your observations as you told us.  Be point blank about it.

The short and simple answer.

That is the track I'm leading down but wanted to get other inputs. 

ETA: M is also wanted to move towards being a Supervisor so I was also trying to help her with the skill set of "managing" others when you interact with them.  Just a little aside. 



Edited by crowny2 2010-07-28 11:48 AM
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