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DougRob - 2010-10-28 4:49 PM

Whine on.

It looks like I have my first real injury. At my yearly physical today my doctor looked at my left achillies and diagnosed bursitis. He is going to have me take ibuprofin 2x a day for 2 weeks to try and reduce the inflamation.

I am scheduled to see a PT on Monday as well to figure out full treatment and hopefully some prevention.

Whine off.



Be careful!  The AT is very little blood supply so is very slow to heal.  It can easily become chronic.  I don't know the difference between the cause of a tendonitis and a bursitis, but am guessing your PT will be able to lay it out.  Good luck.  Hang in there.


2010-10-29 7:59 AM
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Tendonistis and bursitis in the achillies apparently are often confused. Due to the swelling and it location in addition to tenderness to the touch my doctor concluded it is bursitis, which is inflamation of the bursa sac. I am really hoping I can get this unde rcontrol quickly. There are only 6.5 months until Rev3!!
2010-10-29 8:34 AM
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Take care Doug.  Who is the PT you're seeing?
2010-10-29 8:54 AM
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I am going to see Claire Little at your recommendation! Hope this works.
2010-10-29 11:02 AM
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DougRob - 2010-10-29 5:59 AM Tendonistis and bursitis in the achillies apparently are often confused. Due to the swelling and it location in addition to tenderness to the touch my doctor concluded it is bursitis, which is inflamation of the bursa sac. I am really hoping I can get this unde rcontrol quickly. There are only 6.5 months until Rev3!!


Short Term Loss... Long Term Gain.... Take care of this injury!  Hope everyone has a fabulous weekend!
2010-10-29 12:53 PM
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DougRob - 2010-10-29 9:54 AM I am going to see Claire Little at your recommendation! Hope this works.
 


She fixed me right up (and Doug plus 2 others in my training group).  I have great hope for you. 

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Hope everyone has a safe and fun Halloween.  Personally, I hope we get 100s of kids and they eat every last morself of our candy!
2010-10-29 5:57 PM
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SSMinnow - 2010-10-29 2:52 PM Hope everyone has a safe and fun Halloween.  Personally, I hope we get 100s of kids and they eat every last morself of our candy!



I have a friend who only buys candy she hates so she doesn't eat any, ha!!

Lucky us, we get NO trick-or-treaters (dark neighborhood, houses spread out, not worth the effort), so we don't have candy around. We go to a friend's close to here who has tons of houses and trick-or-treat with other families there, so there is plenty of candy to be had when all is said and done. The kid's orthodontist buys back candy at $1/pound (and are sending it to soldiers in Afghanistan) -- we'll see if our kids are more motivated by sugar or money!!!

Happy and SAFE Halloween to all!!
2010-10-29 6:51 PM
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Hey, MG.  Just googled my mom, it's been almost a year since we lost her and I wanted to see her obit again.  Kept searching links....on a different note, I couldn't believe what came up.  My maiden name, married name....  pictures, articles, stuff.   Has anyone else done this?  Should this freak me out?  Issue, non-issue, taper madness?

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=linda%20nollette&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Fchavae.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F03%2Fboston-marathon-qualifier.html§ion=blog&wrt_id=262

Okay, I know I'm getting maudlin, but wow.....how much of our lives are online?



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velcromom - 2010-10-29 4:51 PM

Hey, MG.  Just googled my mom, it's been almost a year since we lost her and I wanted to see her obit again.  Kept searching links....on a different note, I couldn't believe what came up.  My maiden name, married name....  pictures, articles, stuff.   Has anyone else done this?  Should this freak me out?  Issue, non-issue, taper madness?

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=linda%20nollette&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Fchavae.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F03%2Fboston-marathon-qualifier.html§ion=blog&wrt_id=262

Okay, I know I'm getting maudlin, but wow.....how much of our lives are online?



nice picture of you!  yes, it is crazy, i'm out there due to my business and such...don't be freaked out. 
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velcromom - 2010-10-29 7:51 PM

Hey, MG.  Just googled my mom, it's been almost a year since we lost her and I wanted to see her obit again.  Kept searching links....on a different note, I couldn't believe what came up.  My maiden name, married name....  pictures, articles, stuff.   Has anyone else done this?  Should this freak me out?  Issue, non-issue, taper madness?

http://www.123people.com/ext/frm?ti=person%20finder&search_term=linda%20nollette&search_country=US&st=person%20finder&target_url=http%3A%2F%2Fchavae.blogspot.com%2F2009%2F03%2Fboston-marathon-qualifier.html§ion=blog&wrt_id=262

Okay, I know I'm getting maudlin, but wow.....how much of our lives are online?

Linda,
I find that the amount of info. available and the content is a shock. It scares me, but...I think there is nothing we can do about it. Remember the taper is to make you heal so you can kick some $#^^!!!!



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Beautiful picuture too Linda : )
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GM group. Off to do a shorterish long run this morning. Funny when 24k(15miles) is now a 'short' long run.
One thing I am quite proud of is as of Thursday I hit my 1000km goal of running for the year, and am over 150k this month going into todays run- will be longest month of running ever after today. 3 years when I started allthis crazy stuff, I never ever thought  I would/could run this much.

edit: looked at Lindas log since she posted last this morning. She's run almost 6X further this year than me. You humble me as a runner Linda. ~~375miles/month.

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TrevorC - 2010-10-30 5:56 AM GM group. Off to do a shorterish long run this morning. Funny when 24k(15miles) is now a 'short' long run.
One thing I am quite proud of is as of Thursday I hit my 1000km goal of running for the year, and am over 150k this month going into todays run- will be longest month of running ever after today. 3 years when I started allthis crazy stuff, I never ever thought  I would/could run this much.

edit: looked at Lindas log since she posted last this morning. She's run almost 6X further this year than me. You humble me as a runner Linda. ~~375miles/month.


Careful, Trevor!!! While 24K is a short run compared to what you've been doing, those "short long" runs can be a mental grind!! They are still very long! Just keep the right mindset and you'll be great. Come back and tell us how it goes.

And best of luck to VelcroLindaMarathonMom on Sunday!! 
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Ok, I need advice.

I am training for 2 half marathons this winter, the first one is about a month away on 12/5, while many of you are partying racing in Vegas. Right now, I am feeling pretty good about my progress. 

I did my long run of the week this morning (8.3 miles/ 9:43pace, a PR for that distance, btw).  It was a great morning for a run.....temps in lower 40's, no wind.....felt great!  My right knee seized tight on the last mile.  I think it is still my IT Band.....need to keep rolling it.

So, looking at my HR data, I never got out of Zone 3 the entire run, not even for one second.  

I get mixed messages on when I should be pushing my HR up to Z4 during my training runs....or what should be the plan as to when to push or not push into Z4.  One message I get is I am not pushing hard enough on my training runs if I stay in Z3.  

 So, how should I be approaching this for long runs vs. shorter runs during the week.  I do push up to Z4 during shorter runs, hills, intervals, etc.   Just that the long run, like this morning, I tend to stay mostly in Z3.
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TrevorC - 2010-10-30 8:56 AM GM group. Off to do a shorterish long run this morning. Funny when 24k(15miles) is now a 'short' long run.
One thing I am quite proud of is as of Thursday I hit my 1000km goal of running for the year, and am over 150k this month going into todays run- will be longest month of running ever after today. 3 years when I started allthis crazy stuff, I never ever thought  I would/could run this much.

edit: looked at Lindas log since she posted last this morning. She's run almost 6X further this year than me. You humble me as a runner Linda. ~~375miles/month.


Thanks Trevor, but all of you guys in our MG amaze me and keep me motivated and working hard!!


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gdctex - 2010-10-30 10:05 AM Ok, I need advice.

I am training for 2 half marathons this winter, the first one is about a month away on 12/5, while many of you are partying racing in Vegas. Right now, I am feeling pretty good about my progress. 

I did my long run of the week this morning (8.3 miles/ 9:43pace, a PR for that distance, btw).  It was a great morning for a run.....temps in lower 40's, no wind.....felt great!  My right knee seized tight on the last mile.  I think it is still my IT Band.....need to keep rolling it.

So, looking at my HR data, I never got out of Zone 3 the entire run, not even for one second.  

I get mixed messages on when I should be pushing my HR up to Z4 during my training runs....or what should be the plan as to when to push or not push into Z4.  One message I get is I am not pushing hard enough on my training runs if I stay in Z3.  

 So, how should I be approaching this for long runs vs. shorter runs during the week.  I do push up to Z4 during shorter runs, hills, intervals, etc.   Just that the long run, like this morning, I tend to stay mostly in Z3.


My long runs are mainly a Z2 excercise.  I might have a 30 minute Z3 interval, but I am always back down to Z2 for the remainder (runs a couple hours in length or more).  Tempo runs for me are done in Z3 and shorter runs are Z4.  A lot depends on what your plans looks like.
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For those of us who tend to be heavy sweaters, I thought this was a pretty good article to help hydration and carb intake on the bike.
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Huge MG thanks to the Minnow for some running advice earlier this week.  Followed that advice and crushed it this morning. 

RR is here:
http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=232256

Hope everybody has a great Halloween!  Remember Sexy is always more fun than Scarry!  Surprised


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TrevorC - 2010-10-30 5:56 AM

GM group. Off to do a shorterish long run this morning. Funny when 24k(15miles) is now a 'short' long run.
One thing I am quite proud of is as of Thursday I hit my 1000km goal of running for the year, and am over 150k this month going into todays run- will be longest month of running ever after today. 3 years when I started allthis crazy stuff, I never ever thought  I would/could run this much.


Congrats Trevor, well done! That's a very solid month.

edit: looked at Lindas log since she posted last this morning. She's run almost 6X further this year than me. You humble me as a runner Linda. ~~375miles/month.

You and me both. Day after day, month after month. Amazing.
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Got through the run okay. Kyla, you were right. When you think its only 'X' long, you tend to discount the distance. Felt like I hit a bit of a mental wall around 9 miles, but got through it and finished.
One thing that is tough is trying to figure out what my race pace will be. Itry to run what I would think to be that pace, but then tucker out a ways in. I think/hope part of that is that its only during the LSR, and things will be a bit different when we hit the strip.

Off to watch Toy Story 2 with the girls in the TV room. Its movie night. Popcorn and blankets.


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gdctex - 2010-10-30 11:05 AM Ok, I need advice.

I am training for 2 half marathons this winter, the first one is about a month away on 12/5, while many of you are partying racing in Vegas. Right now, I am feeling pretty good about my progress. 

I did my long run of the week this morning (8.3 miles/ 9:43pace, a PR for that distance, btw).  It was a great morning for a run.....temps in lower 40's, no wind.....felt great!  My right knee seized tight on the last mile.  I think it is still my IT Band.....need to keep rolling it.

So, looking at my HR data, I never got out of Zone 3 the entire run, not even for one second.  

I get mixed messages on when I should be pushing my HR up to Z4 during my training runs....or what should be the plan as to when to push or not push into Z4.  One message I get is I am not pushing hard enough on my training runs if I stay in Z3.  

 So, how should I be approaching this for long runs vs. shorter runs during the week.  I do push up to Z4 during shorter runs, hills, intervals, etc.   Just that the long run, like this morning, I tend to stay mostly in Z3.


your long runs should be in the 10:40 range.  slow is hard.  the morons telling you z3 an z4 are twits and have no clue what they are talking about. 

keep up the good work!

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Teenagers all gone-wheew, was this house loud.   And they ate FOUR large pizzas plus lots of soda, chips, salad and candy.   Posted a pic on facebook if interested.  Seriously stressing about the race, now.  Ankle hurts.  Wheezing a bit. rescue inhaler is a bit big for my new belt.  Egads.  Packed my SE, stuck in fridge.  Charged garmin.  Checked map 4 times.

Rain is supposed to clear out.  7 am start.  Want to be WAY done by 11.....

Bib number 890, Kyla, I'll be wearing black shorts with pink trim, pink top & white boston hat.  Pink ponytail.   See a theme?  Run belt has some pink too, may be going over the top with this.

Good night all.  If you want to check in with Jeff, text him at 408-921-8511.  Hopefully he'll know where I am.
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velcromom - 2010-10-30 10:34 PM Teenagers all gone-wheew, was this house loud.   And they ate FOUR large pizzas plus lots of soda, chips, salad and candy.   Posted a pic on facebook if interested.  Seriously stressing about the race, now.  Ankle hurts.  Wheezing a bit. rescue inhaler is a bit big for my new belt.  Egads.  Packed my SE, stuck in fridge.  Charged garmin.  Checked map 4 times.

Rain is supposed to clear out.  7 am start.  Want to be WAY done by 11.....

Bib number 890, Kyla, I'll be wearing black shorts with pink trim, pink top & white boston hat.  Pink ponytail.   See a theme?  Run belt has some pink too, may be going over the top with this.

Good night all.  If you want to check in with Jeff, text him at 408-921-8511.  Hopefully he'll know where I am.


Have a great race, Linda!!!  Run like the wind! 
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gdctex - 2010-10-30 8:05 AM Ok, I need advice.

I am training for 2 half marathons this winter, the first one is about a month away on 12/5, while many of you are partying racing in Vegas. Right now, I am feeling pretty good about my progress. 

I did my long run of the week this morning (8.3 miles/ 9:43pace, a PR for that distance, btw).  It was a great morning for a run.....temps in lower 40's, no wind.....felt great!  My right knee seized tight on the last mile.  I think it is still my IT Band.....need to keep rolling it.

So, looking at my HR data, I never got out of Zone 3 the entire run, not even for one second.  

I get mixed messages on when I should be pushing my HR up to Z4 during my training runs....or what should be the plan as to when to push or not push into Z4.  One message I get is I am not pushing hard enough on my training runs if I stay in Z3.  

 So, how should I be approaching this for long runs vs. shorter runs during the week.  I do push up to Z4 during shorter runs, hills, intervals, etc.   Just that the long run, like this morning, I tend to stay mostly in Z3.


Hey Glen, great job on your long run pr.  That is awesome!

I think you do want to keep your long run in mostly Z2.  It is really hard initially to slow down, but as John says, you really do have to slow down to get faster.  Your body really does build endurance and eventually your pace will improve across the board.  Curious what happens when you consciously try to stay in zone 2.  Would you have to slow way down, or just a little bit?

Most of my long runs are in zone 2 like Suzy, sometimes I have an interval or two with some zone 3 sprinkled in...rarely zone 4.  I love zone 2...well lately, I love zone 1 the most...oops, I digress...

So, anyhow, don't worry about running slower on your long runs, come race day, if you have trained well, you will be going hard at zone 3++...and hopefully get to the start line nice and healthy.

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