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 2009-10-26 12:28 PM in reply to: #2479679 |
Pro  3730      NorCal |  Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official ThreadDoloresM2 - 2009-10-26 9:41 AM Home is no longer called home...it's just a really expensive transition area. LOl, I love the bed in my transition area.....I wish I was able to spend more time in it! |
| 2009-10-26 12:37 PM in reply to: #2479767 |
Expert 916 San mateo California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread bryancd - 2009-10-26 11:26 AM phatknot - 2009-10-26 10:13 AM Woah! You have SERIOUSLY misread what I wrote and the intent of what was presented. I'm not suggesting people train themselves to death. Nor am I making any statement about any specific training plan. In general, all Ironman training requires a high amount of volume, volume which peaks about 5 weeks out from the race. It is VERY important to try and complete these sessions to the best of our ability as the adaptations we are developing within or bodies are stimulated during this period. I never suggesteed you go out and hurt yourself and I am curious what you read in my comment, a comment by the way which isn't even my own but what you would hear from any coach read in any publication regrading training protocols, that made you think that.bryancd - 2009-10-26 8:39 AM you just have to struggle through and get the worouts complete. The hardest part about racing an Ironman is the training. Bryancd With all due respect, sometimes that is not indicated. Blanket statements can sometimes get us in trouble and most training plans are not designed for the MOP or BOP but to maximize the FOP. Sometimes the best thing to do is pack it in and conserve for a better workout another day soon thereafter. This prevents injury etc. Note to self :---> Never ever say anything that might be misread, misquoted, misunderstood.. Training is fun, we are here for the fun, I know I am. So, how about those bikes huh? I say lets post a picture of the fine machinery that will take us for a fine ride..  |
| 2009-10-26 12:40 PM in reply to: #2479767 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread again, not trying to be critical bryancd, just trying to recognize that "you just have to struggle through and get the worouts (sic.) complete" |
| 2009-10-26 12:50 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I just think you are reading way too much into that comment and I am still not clear how I am responsible for any bone head things people due becuase they choose to interpret something said on the internet in a specific way. I find many workouts a struggle, i get very tired and sometimes can't execute the way I want to. That's what we are talking about. How you feel this means go out and hurt yoursef is beyond me. |
| 2009-10-26 12:50 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread |
| 2009-10-26 12:54 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Extreme Veteran 557 Woodland Hills, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread We rock. Try reading through page 37 and pretend that you're a normal person that may occasionally go for a job or hit the gym. We say things like a 5 mile run and 2 mile swim felt like recovery. Most people would suffer through 5 miles of running and I can't even image swimming for that long. And just throwing in an measly 16 mile run because you couldn't do a long bike for maintenance reasons. haha. I caught myself the other day saying "it's only an 80 minute run, I can throw it in whenever." |
| 2009-10-26 1:02 PM in reply to: #2479774 |
Extreme Veteran 459 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread You are so right Abbie - the bed in my transition area was so, so, so great this morning - I almost didn't get up. Sure didn't want to! |
| 2009-10-26 1:04 PM in reply to: #2479821 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread i may have misread your point. basically for those that care, his jist appears to be: if you are tired, you are supposed to be, so stick with the plan as best as possible and itll pay off on raceday. my jist is: if you are potentially facing injury during a workout that is negatively affected by fatigue or some other factor (e.g., illness), quit now. dont risk a dns, dnf or a painful completed race. both valid points and not necessarily opposing ones, so lets move on to other things unless you want the final word to clear up what i just wrote. |
| 2009-10-26 1:15 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Expert 916 San mateo California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official ThreadMeet Jess |
| 2009-10-26 1:18 PM in reply to: #2479843 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread phatknot - 2009-10-26 1:04 PM i may have misread your point. basically for those that care, his jist appears to be: if you are tired, you are supposed to be, so stick with the plan as best as possible and itll pay off on raceday. my jist is: if you are potentially facing injury during a workout that is negatively affected by fatigue or some other factor (e.g., illness), quit now. dont risk a dns, dnf or a painful completed race. both valid points and not necessarily opposing ones, so lets move on to other things unless you want the final word to clear up what i just wrote. No, that's pretty much correct. We are all training in a state of fatigue. Even with recovery days, we are never really fully recovering at this point. That's what a taper is for. There is a big difference between training when you are tired, which we all are doing, to training with an injury or aggrevating an injury or if you are sick. I would hope one would understand the distinction and act accordingly and approriatley. BUT, assuming you don't have the flu or are developing any kind of overuse injuruy, it is important to apply the appropriate amount of stress on yourself to acclimate your body for the event. That's training 101 and becomes even more improtant during the peak phase of training. Here's a great general blanket statement I wil make. Training right now in general should feel like it sucks, that you are sick and tired of it, you can't imagine being able to run a marathon off your long rides, and you question why you signed up in the first place. Geuss what? That means you are ready. |
| 2009-10-26 1:37 PM in reply to: #2479875 |
Master 1591 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread velasqu7 - 2009-10-26 11:15 AM Meet Jess |
| 2009-10-26 1:50 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Master 1591 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/pace-of-chicago/2009/10/a-view-from-the-back--running-with-lauren.html Way to go RunningJayhawk ... I thought I recognized you in this story. You're a great friend! I'll be expecting some of that famous cheer out on the run course  |
| 2009-10-26 1:54 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Extreme Veteran 459 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread In response to Bryan's last post - BRING IT!! I'm ready. |
| 2009-10-26 4:23 PM in reply to: #2479621 |
New user 13 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I have to agree. No one wants to ride in my car. I can't believe I just found this forum. Must be too much training in the Texas heat. I should be grading papers but I've been reading all the posts. Will you let a newcomer into your group at this late stage? |
| 2009-10-26 4:44 PM in reply to: #2480371 |
Expert 916 San mateo California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread biobabe - 2009-10-26 3:23 PMI have to agree. No one wants to ride in my car. Welcome to the PARTY!! yay... I can't believe I just found this forum. Must be too much training in the Texas heat. I should be grading papers but I've been reading all the posts. Will you let a newcomer into your group at this late stage? It is fun out here... |
| 2009-10-26 5:07 PM in reply to: #2480414 |
New user 13 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Looking forward to it (I think). Some days I'm excited...others I think..what the hell have I gotten myself into this time! |
| 2009-10-26 5:31 PM in reply to: #2480449 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread my mood swings aren't day to day but moment to moment. rapid cycling doesn't do me justice haha |
| 2009-10-26 5:34 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Master 2411 Goodyear, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Maybe there's something wrong with me (ok, I'm sure there's a LOT wrong)...I'm still enjoying the training and looking forward to one more big weekend before taper |
| 2009-10-26 5:43 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Expert 1028 Chandler, AZ | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I am still enjoying training. My big weeks are finished. I am heading to NY this weekend. The wife is running the marathon. I will get a long run in and then it is taper time. I can assure all the readers that Sally (riorio) is good to go. Edited by azstaterick 2009-10-26 5:50 PM |
| 2009-10-26 5:48 PM in reply to: #2480504 |
Elite 3495 SE | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread good luck to the wife. i agree that riorio is an amazing athlete! check her logs on some of those high quality workouts. |
| 2009-10-26 6:30 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Master 1547 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Just saw someone reference swimming across the Hudson River in a movie to show how serious he was about something. The other person said "that's a long f'n way". All I was thinking was... That's not so bad...what, 3/4 mile, maybe a mile? Ironman training is the greatest. |
| 2009-10-26 7:20 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Expert 1076 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Looks like I joined everyone else with a crappy ride on Sunday. Weekend started off good with an 18 mile run in good weather on Saturday. Woke up Sunday morning to 30mph winds so slept in. Headed out later in the day and it was just brutal. First 5 miles was crosswind and then my route turns north directly into the headwind. This is along the highway shoulder through the desert so there is nothing to block the wind. I averaged slightly over 11mph for the first hour and at times was going around 8 and thought the bike was going to tip over from the combination of the wind and going so slow. Bagged the ride after 50 miles as I think I was more frustrated from the wind than actually tired. Took a few hours off work today and knocked out another 50 mile ride at a much better pace. Next two days in Vegas have a forecast of 45-50mph winds in the afternoon so a good time for some indoor swim training and a short treadmill recovery run. Edited by toddg 2009-10-26 7:21 PM |
| 2009-10-26 10:30 PM in reply to: #1827515 |
Pro 3730 NorCal | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread After reading some comments I was reminded of writing this in my log last year while training for IMKY 08. Seems like it might be a good time to bring it up. Of course feel free to add a few of your own You might be training for an IM if - U are hungry all the time (even after finishing a meal your stomach groans for more) - your hair is always wet from pool, shower or sweat - the laundry basket is full of sweat-wicking fabrics with a few pair of underwear thrown in - you are constantly hungry - you have no patience (in fact have stopped going to Starbucks because having more than 2 people in line in front of you means waiting too f-in long for a coffee!) - Gu and electrolyte drinks are their own food group - incessant hunger - when you leave the gym, people at the front desk say "see you later" rather than "have a nice day" - body glide, deodorant, GU and goggles are in your glovebox in the car - people no longer ask "how are you?" they ask "how's the training going?" - have I mentioned the hunger? - you are always packing/unpacking clothes for the next workout - your significant other tells you over dinner how the movie/tv show you watched last night ended b/c you fell asleep watching it - you debate eating your arm while waiting for the waitress to bring over the friggin bread at a restaurant for fear you may starve to death - you stop trying to figure out how much money you have spent training - you know that surviving all of the above is worth having an IM finisher's medal!!!! |
| 2009-10-26 11:27 PM in reply to: #2480885 |
Master 1591 San Diego, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread AbbieR - 2009-10-26 8:30 PM After reading some comments I was reminded of writing this in my log last year while training for IMKY 08. Seems like it might be a good time to bring it up. Of course feel free to add a few of your own You might be training for an IM if: - you have no patience (in fact have stopped going to Starbucks because having more than 2 people in line in front of you means waiting too f-in long for a coffee!) - Gu and electrolyte drinks are their own food group - incessant hunger - when you leave the gym, people at the front desk say "see you later" rather than "have a nice day" - body glide, deodorant, GU and goggles are in your glovebox in the car - people no longer ask "how are you?" they ask "how's the training going?" - have I mentioned the hunger? - you are always packing/unpacking clothes for the next workout - your significant other tells you over dinner how the movie/tv show you watched last night ended b/c you fell asleep watching it - you debate eating your arm while waiting for the waitress to bring over the friggin bread at a restaurant for fear you may starve to death - you stop trying to figure out how much money you have spent training - you know that surviving all of the above is worth having an IM finisher's medal!!!! Hahaha ... this is so true. We have a section of the counter and the pantry dedicated to training fuels. |
| 2009-10-27 12:24 AM in reply to: #1827515 |
Extreme Veteran 459 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I have one to add, I did it today....ironed and wore dirty pants to work and didn't even notice they were the dirty ones til I got to work! |
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