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So when are the race numbers due in...I have received 2 emails saying they are coming soon.  I need to know!!!



2009-10-27 9:03 AM
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thanks for the post Abbie...I think I fit every single one of those...I MUST be training for Ironman
2009-10-27 2:49 PM
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I've got a couple questions from reading the Athlete guide...

What is the 'Gatorade Bag Check' from 8-10am in the mornings?

When are the morning practice swims scheduled?


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toddg - 2009-10-27 12:49 PM

I've got a couple questions from reading the Athlete guide...

What is the 'Gatorade Bag Check' from 8-10am in the mornings?

When are the morning practice swims scheduled?




That's where you check your gear so you can do the practice swim that is going on at the same time
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jezzieswims - 2009-10-26 1:50 PM

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/pace-of-chicago/2009/10/a-view-from-the-back--running-with-lauren.html

Way to go RunningJayhawk ... I thought I recognized you in this story. You're a great friend! I'll be expecting some of that famous cheer out on the run course


Aww...thanks, darlin'. That is indeed me. My hope is to make it to the bike-run cutoff to spread some cheer and energy out there.

...AND...Lauren bought a plane ticket to Arizona. So she'll be out there screaming her little heart out for everyone in the back of the pack.
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So I survived the crazy weekend a few miles short of the ultimate goal (have to reschedule the swim and lost daylight at the end of the 120 mile ride).

It is obvious...my head is my biggest weakness. My body can handle the mileage (be it at a much slower clip than all you speed demons out here)...

  • ..so tell me, friends. What do you do to get your head in the game? How do you psych yourself up and no psych yourself out? What's in your iron toolbox to get you mentally prepped?

  • Once the gun goes off...I'm fine. It's the moments leading up to the start that have me all discombobulated.


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    runningjayhawk

    its great you have the endurance foundation. everyone has different reasons that motivate them; however, rather than trying to find out from others you really need to look inward for those reasons. i personally think of all the mofos that doubt me including myself. there is some serious sublimation going on too as i take all my work/life frustrations out on the course.

    now if its performance anxiety, you are talking classic sport psychology (e.g., visual imagery, deep breathing, positive self talk, etc).
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    phatknot - 2009-10-27 3:12 PM



    now if its performance anxiety, you are talking classic sport psychology (e.g., visual imagery, deep breathing, positive self talk, etc).


    This hits the nail right on the head.

    My problem isn't that I don't think I can do the distance. It's that I have this innate ability to psych myself out rather than up. Fear management the morning of the race is more like it. And it's not the fear of the distance or the race itself. It's the fear of me failing. And I do think a small dose of fear and nerves is healthy...and normal. It's when that feeling becomes so overwhelming and anxiety-driven to the point I'm losing fuel from the morning is when it's an issue.

    Once I'm treading water, waiting for the cannon...I'll be fine. But going through the routine motions in the morning my mind goes off with monkey talk...and it gets ugly.
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    you can do some self-help. or you can consult in person or via phone with a sports psych phd.

    my philosophy is that i aint going tight on a few bucks for something i put so much effort into. id spend the 120 or whatever for the consult/training. it may even be covered on insurance. still plenty of time for that.

    there is an accreditation source for that type of psychologist if you google.

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    Any thoughts on using these instead of a full sleeve for the swim -- I'm too scared to go with something completely new:
    Quintana Roo Wetsuit Speed Sleeves
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    ive not tried them but i looked at them. i think they are probably better than sleeveless. id get them if you feel uncomfortable in full sleeve. but full sleeve is probably better for speed.

    i tore my full sleeve recently and had to send it back to b70 for repair. my sleeveless is fine but the lake is friggin cold so i considered them. ended up just buying a cheap full sleeve suit on ebay and st.com. while im waiting its back to the pool. ewww. i hate so many turns. my lake  lap is 250 yards so one lap there saves me 20 turns!


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    RunningJayhawk - 2009-10-27 12:58 PM So I survived the crazy weekend a few miles short of the ultimate goal (have to reschedule the swim and lost daylight at the end of the 120 mile ride). It is obvious...my head is my biggest weakness. My body can handle the mileage (be it at a much slower clip than all you speed demons out here)... ...so tell me, friends. What do you do to get your head in the game? How do you psych yourself up and no psych yourself out? What's in your iron toolbox to get you mentally prepped? Once the gun goes off...I'm fine. It's the moments leading up to the start that have me all discombobulated.

    Some of my girlfriends have used a sports hypnotherapy CD in prep for their Ironman races.  It's actually triathlon-specific.  After a few too many times of talking down on myself, one of them burned me a copy and told me that I MUST listen to it LOTS before the race.  I started using it a couple of weeks ago when I got really sick.  My attitude changed greatly, and I am more relaxed and focused.  It sounds hokey, but at the very least, it helps you zone out for an hour and maybe even take a nap.  Basically, it starts with 12 positive affirmations that you repeat out loud.  Then it goes into an hour of relaxation and positive thinking messages.

    I would be happy to burn a copy for you and mail it...just PM me an address to send it to.
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    sdbryant - 2009-10-27 5:47 PM

    RunningJayhawk - 2009-10-27 12:58 PM So I survived the crazy weekend a few miles short of the ultimate goal (have to reschedule the swim and lost daylight at the end of the 120 mile ride). It is obvious...my head is my biggest weakness. My body can handle the mileage (be it at a much slower clip than all you speed demons out here)... ...so tell me, friends. What do you do to get your head in the game? How do you psych yourself up and no psych yourself out? What's in your iron toolbox to get you mentally prepped? Once the gun goes off...I'm fine. It's the moments leading up to the start that have me all discombobulated.

    Some of my girlfriends have used a sports hypnotherapy CD in prep for their Ironman races.  It's actually triathlon-specific.  After a few too many times of talking down on myself, one of them burned me a copy and told me that I MUST listen to it LOTS before the race.  I started using it a couple of weeks ago when I got really sick.  My attitude changed greatly, and I am more relaxed and focused.  It sounds hokey, but at the very least, it helps you zone out for an hour and maybe even take a nap.  Basically, it starts with 12 positive affirmations that you repeat out loud.  Then it goes into an hour of relaxation and positive thinking messages.

    I would be happy to burn a copy for you and mail it...just PM me an address to send it to.


    You've got mail!! Thank you so much for this offer. I'm willing to try anything (and everything!) to keep me head focused.
    2009-10-28 11:21 AM
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    Watch some footage of Dick & Rick Hoyt or John Blais on youtube.  I've been watching a bunch of those clips...they're awesome. We're so lucky.
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    We are lucky indeed.

    DoloresM2 - 2009-10-28 11:21 AM Watch some footage of Dick & Rick Hoyt or John Blais on youtube.  I've been watching a bunch of those clips...they're awesome. We're so lucky.

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    I dont know if this has been posted yet. I dont know who wrote it. I picked it up here a few years ago. It pretty much sums it all up for me.

    Get a box of tissues ready and dont forget to share it with anyone that cares, anyone that has watched you or been around you while you were training for this:

    Right now you've all entered the taper. Perhaps you've been at this a few months, perhaps you've been at this a few years. For some of you this is your first IM, for others, a long-overdue welcome back to a race that few can match.

    You've been following your schedule to the letter. You've been piling on the mileage, piling up the laundry, and getting a set of tan lines that will take until next year to erase. Long rides were followed by long runs, which both were preceded by long swims, all of which were followed by recovery naps that were longer than you slept for any given night during college.

    You ran in the dark.
    You rode in the rain.
    You ran in the heat.
    You ran in the cold.

    You went out when others stayed home.
    You rode the trainer when others pulled the covers over their heads.

    You have survived the Darwinian progression that is an Ironman summer, and now the hardest days are behind you. Like a climber in the Tour de France coming over the summit of the penultimate climb on an alpine stage, you've already covered so much ground...there's just one more climb to go. You shift up, you take a drink, you zip up the jersey; the descent lies before you...and it will be a fast one.

    Time that used to be filled with never-ending work will now be filling with silent muscles, taking their final, well-earned rest. While this taper is something your body desperately needs, your mind cast off to the background for so very long, will start to speak to you.

    It won't be pretty.

    It will bring up thoughts of doubt, pain, hunger, thirst, failure, and loss. It will give you reasons why you aren't ready. It will try and make one last stand to stop you, because your brain doesn't know what the body already does. Your body knows the truth:

    You are ready.

    Your brain won't believe it. It will use the taper to convince you that this is foolish - that there is too much that can go wrong.

    You are ready.

    Finishing an Ironman is never an accident. It's the result of dedication, focus, hard work, and belief that all the long runs in January, long rides in March, and long swims every damn weekend will be worth it. It comes from getting on the bike, day in, day out. It comes from long, solo runs. From that first long run where you wondered, "How will I ever be ready?" to the last long run where you smiled to yourself with one mile to go...knowing that you'd found the answer.

    It is worth it. Now that you're at the taper, you know it will be worth it. The workload becomes less. The body winds up and prepares, and you just need to quiet your worried mind. Not easy, but you can do it.

    You are ready.


    You will walk into the water with 2500 other wide-open sets of eyes. You will look upon the sea of humanity, and know that you belong. You'll feel the chill of the water crawl into your wetsuit, and shiver like everyone else, but smile because the day you have waited for so VERY long is finally here.

    You will tear up in your goggles. Everyone does.

    The helicopters will roar overhead.
    The splashing will surround you.

    You'll stop thinking about Ironman, because you're now racing one.

    The swim will be long - it's long for everyone, but you'll make it. You'll watch as the shoreline grows and grows, and soon you'll hear the end. You'll come up the beach and head for the wetsuit strippers. Three people will get that sucker off before you know what happening, then you’ll head for the bike.

    The voices, the cowbells, and the curb-to-curb chalk giving you a hero's sendoff can't wipe the smile off your face.

    You'll settle down to your race. The crowds will spread out on the road. You'll soon be on your bike, eating your food on your schedule, controlling your Ironman.

    You'll start to feel that morning sun turn to afternoon sun. It's warmer now. Maybe it's hot. Maybe you're not feeling so good now. You'll keep riding. You'll keep drinking. You'll keep moving. After all, this is just a long training day with valet parking and catering, right?

    You'll put on your game face, fighting the urge to feel down as you ride for what seems like hours. You reach special needs, fuel up, and head out.


    By now it'll be hot. You'll be tired. Doubts will fight for your focus. Everyone struggles here. You've been on that bike for a few hours, and stopping would be nice, but you won't - not here. Not today.


    You'll grind the false flats to the climb. You'll know you're almost there. You'll fight for every inch of road. The crowd will come back to you here.  Let their energy push you. Let them see your eyes. Smile when they cheer for you - your body will get just that little bit lighter.

    Grind.
    Fight.
    Suffer.
    Persevere.

    You'll plunge down the road, swooping from corner to corner, chaining together the turns, tucking on the straights, letting your legs recover for the run to come - soon! You'll roll back - you'll see people running out. You'll think to yourself, "Wasn't I just here?" The noise
    will grow. The chalk dust will hang in the air - you're back, with only 26.2 miles to go. You'll relax a little bit, knowing that even if you get a flat tire or something breaks here, you can run the damn bike into T2.

    You'll roll into transition. 100 volunteers will fight for your bike. You'll give it up and not look back. You'll have your bag handed to you, and into the tent you'll go. You'll change. You'll load up your pockets, and open the door to the last long run of your Ironman summer - the one that counts.

    You'll take that first step of a thousand...and you'll smile. You'll know that the bike won't let you down now - the race is down to your own two feet. The same crowd that cheered for you in the shadows of the morning will cheer for you in the brilliant sunshine of a summer Sunday.  High-five people on the way out. Smile. Enjoy it. This is what you've worked for all year long.


    That first mile will feel great. So will the second. By mile 3, you probably won't feel so good.

    That's okay. You knew it couldn't all be that easy. You'll settle down just like you did on the bike, and get down to your pace. You'll see the leaders coming back the other way. Some will look great - some won't. You might feel great, you might not. No matter how you feel, don't panic - this is the part of the day where whatever you're feeling, you can be sure it won't last.

    You'll keep moving. You'll keep drinking. You'll keep eating. Maybe you'll be right on plan - maybe you won't. If you're ahead of schedule, don't worry - believe. If you're behind, don't panic - roll with it. Everyone comes up with a brilliant race plan for Ironman, and then everyone has to deal with the reality that planning for something like Ironman is like trying to land a man on the moon. By remote control. Blindfolded.

    How you react to the changes in your plan will dictate your day. Don't waste energy worrying about things - just do what you have to when you have to, and keep moving. Keep eating. Keep drinking. Just don't sit down - don't EVER sit down.

    You'll make it to the halfway point. You'll load up on special needs. Some of what you packed will look good, some won't. Eat what looks good, toss the rest. Keep moving. Start looking for people you know. Cheer for people you don't. You're headed in - they're not. They want to be
    where you are, just like you wanted to be when you saw all those fast people headed into town. Share some energy - you'll get it right back.

    Run if you can.
    Walk if you have to.
    Just keep moving.

    The miles will drag on. The brilliant sunshine will yawn. You'll be coming up to those aid stations fully alive with people, music, and chicken soup. TAKE THE SOUP. Keep moving.

    You'll soon only have a few miles to go. You'll start to believe that you're going to make it. You'll start to imagine how good it's going to feel when you get there. Let those feelings drive you on. When your legs just don't want to move anymore, think about what it's going to be like when someone catches you…and puts a medal over your head... all you have to do is get there.

    You'll start to hear the people in town. People you can't see in the twilight will cheer for you. They'll call out your name. Smile and thank them. They were there when you left on the bike, and when you came back, and when you left on the run, and now when you've come back.

    You'll enter town. You'll start to realize that the day is almost over. You'll be exhausted, wiped out, barely able to run a 10-minute mile (if you're lucky), but you'll ask yourself, "Where did the whole day go?" You'll be standing on the edge of two feelings - the desire to finally stop, and the desire to take these last moments and make them last as long as possible.

    You'll hit mile 25. Your Ironman will have 1.2 miles - just 2KM left in it.

    You'll run. You'll find your legs. You'll fly. You won't know how, but you will run. The lights will grow brighter, brighter, and brighter. Soon you'll be able to hear the music again. This time, it'll be for keeps.

    Soon they'll see you. Soon, everyone will see you. You'll run towards the lights, between the fences, and into the night sun made just for you.

    They'll say your name.
    You'll keep running.
    Nothing will hurt.


    The moment will be yours - for one moment, the entire world will be looking at you and only you.

    You'll break the tape at the finish line, 140.6 miles after starting your journey. The flash will go off.  

    You'll stop. You'll finally stop. Your legs will wobble their last, and suddenly...be capable of nothing more.

    Someone will catch you.
    You'll lean into them.

    It will suddenly hit you.

    YOU ARE AN IRONMAN!

    You are ready.

     

     



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    Just saw this quick clip of bart yasso talking about staying calm on race weekend

    http://www.runnersworld.com/video/1,8052,s6-5-0-1,00.html?bcpid=2884339001&bclid=1126074425&bctid=45379402001
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    this is where the tears came for me....

    You'll stop thinking about Ironman because you're now racing one.

    thank you for posting this! Loved it!


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    Polling here for ideas:

    What are you putting in your special needs bags? Nutrition? Extra tire in case you already had a flat?

    What else?

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    Bike special needs: Extra tube and CO2, extra bottle of nutrition, goldfish crackers and more sunscreen. 

    Run special needs: Extra pair of socks, long sleeved shirt, baked lays, flat Dr. Pepper and some mint gum.

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    evillarroel - 2009-10-28 3:19 PM

    Polling here for ideas:

    What are you putting in your special needs bags? Nutrition? Extra tire in case you already had a flat?

    What else?

    Thanks


    Bike special needs: Extra tire, extra CO2, extra tubes, extra bottle of concentrated Infinit (in case I somehow lose one along the way), bottle of Coke, extra Aquaphor/Body Glide and Crotch Guard, Immodium and GasX, extra sunscreen and salt tabs.

    Run special needs: Probably very little...Sport Beans, bottle of Coke, and some gummy worms, Immodium, GasX, extra Aquaphor/Body Glide, extra sunscreen, and salt tabs.


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    Two things that others with IM experience have told me are
    1) other food choices - because you will be sick of what you're eating and
    2) any kind of meds that might help any issues you might encounter (like immodium, pepcid ac, advil, rolaids, tums, etc.)


    Bike Special Needs: ditto on the CO2 cartridges, and tubes; plus another bottle of Infinit, power bites, fruit cup (one of my friends did arizona and he loved this), boiled potato, meds, sunscreen, chapstick


    Run special needs: long sleeved shirt, Infinit, other food choices (like different Gu flavors), coke, and another set of medicine choices, bandaids
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    Just curious why everyone is packing coke in SN?  The IMAZ website said there would be coke.

    T-Shirt idea1: The website said there would be coke!
    T-shirt idea 2: The website said there would be soup!
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    sax - 2009-10-28 6:30 PM

    Just curious why everyone is packing coke in SN?  The IMAZ website said there would be coke.

    T-Shirt idea1: The website said there would be coke!
    T-shirt idea 2: The website said there would be soup!


    I want my own bottles at the times I determine, not their potentially flat generic stuff.
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    sax - 2009-10-28 6:30 PMJust curious why everyone is packing coke in SN?  The IMAZ website said there would be coke.

    T-Shirt idea1: The website said there would be coke!
    T-shirt idea 2: The website said there would be soup!
    I want my own bottles at the times I determine, not their potentially flat generic stuff.

    OH.. you might not want the generic stuff, but you definitely want it flat.. Or you will be burping and potentially get a really bad stomach ache.... believe me, I learned the hard way.

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    My special needs for the bike will contain

    a) tubes
    b) CO2 Cartidrages
    c) Oreo cookies
    d) Bottle of nutrition (Infinit)
    e) Ibuprofen
    f) Salt tablets


    Run special needs bags
    a) nutrition (Infinit)
    b) socks
    c) ibuprofen
    d) Salt tablets


    In my first IM, I packed a lot of stuff that I did not use, in my second I packed less and still did not use most of it, this time I am packing what I used in my two previous experiences.. It is going to be fun.. yay.. L



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