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JorgeM has a great winter cycling program for building power. It starts here; http://jorgepbmcoaching.blogspot.com/2009/11/cycling-plan-week-1-power.html
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tasr - 2010-01-05 9:00 PM
JorgeM has a great winter cycling program for building power. It starts here; http://jorgepbmcoaching.blogspot.com/2009/11/cycling-plan-week-1-power.html
Oh yeah. Did that last year. Brutal. So, besides from biking lots and working on your LT and cadence, there's no specific workout you can do on a trainer that will make you better at climbing hills? I can wait until spring to start working on that though...hehe. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() swishyskirt - 2010-01-05 9:03 PM Oh yeah. Did that last year. Brutal. So, besides from biking lots and working on your LT and cadence, there's no specific workout you can do on a trainer that will make you better at climbing hills? I can wait until spring to start working on that though...hehe. IMO it's limited. Also depends on your climbing style. If you stand and climb its possible to block the front wheel up to simulate this. I don’t bother because my climbing style is a bit aggressive and I use a lot of upper body. Long intervals are another useful and productive training method on a trainer. Check this out http://www.purpleextreme.com/Info/Trainer%20Workouts%20Complete%20Series.pdf
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() PennState - 2010-01-05 7:56 PM Key for a good bike split (I went 5:27 last year)??? Time in the saddle. (T.I.T.S.) Thanks for telling me what T.I.T.S. stood for b/c I saw that on an earlier post and had no idea what that meant. I just chuckled b/c how it reads. What is a good amount of time to put in the saddle during base period? How many hours per week? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tasr - 2010-01-05 9:15 PM swishyskirt - 2010-01-05 9:03 PM Oh yeah. Did that last year. Brutal. So, besides from biking lots and working on your LT and cadence, there's no specific workout you can do on a trainer that will make you better at climbing hills? I can wait until spring to start working on that though...hehe. IMO it's limited. Also depends on your climbing style. If you stand and climb its possible to block the front wheel up to simulate this. I don’t bother because my climbing style is a bit aggressive and I use a lot of upper body. Long intervals are another useful and productive training method on a trainer. Check this out http://www.purpleextreme.com/Info/Trainer%20Workouts%20Complete%20Series.pdf
Just checked out the workouts and they look rough! Would you recommend doing one of these workouts once a week and incorporate them with easier Z1 & 2 workouts and form workouts? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mcluvin22 - 2010-01-05 10:57 PM tasr - 2010-01-05 9:15 PM swishyskirt - 2010-01-05 9:03 PM Oh yeah. Did that last year. Brutal. So, besides from biking lots and working on your LT and cadence, there's no specific workout you can do on a trainer that will make you better at climbing hills? I can wait until spring to start working on that though...hehe. IMO it's limited. Also depends on your climbing style. If you stand and climb its possible to block the front wheel up to simulate this. I don’t bother because my climbing style is a bit aggressive and I use a lot of upper body. Long intervals are another useful and productive training method on a trainer. Check this out http://www.purpleextreme.com/Info/Trainer%20Workouts%20Complete%20Series.pdf
Just checked out the workouts and they look rough! Would you recommend doing one of these workouts once a week and incorporate them with easier Z1 & 2 workouts and form workouts? You could do that but IMO I would do a least 90 RPM's. Plans are always modified. Did you check out JorgeM's plans a couple of post up? ^^^ |
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![]() I'm going to second Jorge's plan. My limiter is the bike so I decided to do Jorge's Winter Bike Plan. I'm on Week 8 and I can feel a HUGE difference. The raw soreness and fatigue I feel in my thighs is nothing I can compare to in 2 years (so far) of outside riding. Doing Jorge's plan, my quads are more sore at times than the days following a 56-mile HIM race. His plan is three rides per week, with an optional Z1/ Z2 long ride on the weekend. 3 hard rides per week would likley build leg power more quickly than only one interval session per week. Remember, no pain no gain. Or you could try Jenn with two N's bike plan which includes sipping champagne and nibbling on exotic cheeses while you sit on the trainer and playfully pedal. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Mcluvin22 - 2010-01-05 10:57 PM tasr - 2010-01-05 9:15 PM swishyskirt - 2010-01-05 9:03 PM Oh yeah. Did that last year. Brutal. So, besides from biking lots and working on your LT and cadence, there's no specific workout you can do on a trainer that will make you better at climbing hills? I can wait until spring to start working on that though...hehe. IMO it's limited. Also depends on your climbing style. If you stand and climb its possible to block the front wheel up to simulate this. I don’t bother because my climbing style is a bit aggressive and I use a lot of upper body. Long intervals are another useful and productive training method on a trainer. Check this out http://www.purpleextreme.com/Info/Trainer%20Workouts%20Complete%20Series.pdf
Just checked out the workouts and they look rough! Would you recommend doing one of these workouts once a week and incorporate them with easier Z1 & 2 workouts and form workouts? No, I wouldn't recommend that. I would follow the program from week 1. The point of the hard workouts on the trainer is that you're not spending as much time in the saddle, so you gotta go big while you're there. You can add a 4th easier z1/z2 ride where you ride long if you want to, but i wouldn't replace that with the others. Just my opinion. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() gopennstate - 2010-01-06 9:00 AM Mcluvin22 - 2010-01-05 10:57 PM tasr - 2010-01-05 9:15 PM swishyskirt - 2010-01-05 9:03 PM Oh yeah. Did that last year. Brutal. So, besides from biking lots and working on your LT and cadence, there's no specific workout you can do on a trainer that will make you better at climbing hills? I can wait until spring to start working on that though...hehe. IMO it's limited. Also depends on your climbing style. If you stand and climb its possible to block the front wheel up to simulate this. I don’t bother because my climbing style is a bit aggressive and I use a lot of upper body. Long intervals are another useful and productive training method on a trainer. Check this out http://www.purpleextreme.com/Info/Trainer%20Workouts%20Complete%20Series.pdf
Just checked out the workouts and they look rough! Would you recommend doing one of these workouts once a week and incorporate them with easier Z1 & 2 workouts and form workouts? No, I wouldn't recommend that. I would follow the program from week 1. The point of the hard workouts on the trainer is that you're not spending as much time in the saddle, so you gotta go big while you're there. You can add a 4th easier z1/z2 ride where you ride long if you want to, but i wouldn't replace that with the others. Just my opinion. x1000. I don't know the program well, but this is great advice for any plan. Follow it to the T, because as soon as you start switching things around, you are messing with the purpose of each workout.....this is rule number 2 with training, which of course is behind rule #1....consistancy. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Wow... I find it funny that with all the fish talking about going fast in the swim and then I see :31 and :33 splits. So what does it mean when a rock like myself is coming out of the water in 1:00:25 (IM MOO) and 1:03 at (IM KY)? I will answer for you... YOU BETTER WORK!!* *slackers :P |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Marvarnett - 2010-01-06 10:07 AM Wow... I find it funny that with all the fish talking about going fast in the swim and then I see :31 and :33 splits. So what does it mean when a rock like myself is coming out of the water in 1:00:25 (IM MOO) and 1:03 at (IM KY)? I will answer for you... YOU BETTER WORK!!* *slackers :P It means if you want to come anywhere close to your potential on the run, you should pace yourself better early on.... OH SNAP!!!!....smack talk back on.... |
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New user ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi Folks: 1. Is this your first IM? 2nd IM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Other than good luck finding a place to stay... No just kidding, you might be able to get put on a waiting list at the local hotels in LP. There are always spaces opening up as people get injured and drop out during training. My friend just told me there were available spaces at the Best Western in Saranac Lake, and the best part they don't have a minimum night stay policy. Good luck! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Marvarnett - 2010-01-06 10:07 AM Wow... I find it funny that with all the fish talking about going fast in the swim and then I see :31 and :33 splits. So what does it mean when a rock like myself is coming out of the water in 1:00:25 (IM MOO) and 1:03 at (IM KY)? I will answer for you... YOU BETTER WORK!!* *slackers :P Well for a rock you swim fast! Don't forget LP has a exit the water at completion of the first lap. I don’t know how much time this slow or speed the swim time. I swam a 1:02 and that was under 10% of the field. Edited by tasr 2010-01-06 12:25 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cusetri - 2010-01-06 10:48 AM Marvarnett - 2010-01-06 10:07 AM Wow... I find it funny that with all the fish talking about going fast in the swim and then I see :31 and :33 splits. So what does it mean when a rock like myself is coming out of the water in 1:00:25 (IM MOO) and 1:03 at (IM KY)? I will answer for you... YOU BETTER WORK!!* *slackers :P It means if you want to come anywhere close to your potential on the run, you should pace yourself better early on.... OH SNAP!!!!....smack talk back on.... oh i love this thread. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jadarrow - 2010-01-06 12:40 PM Hi Folks: I need a place to stay! Any tips or ideas or rooms? Art Devlin's Olympic Motor Inn. 2 blocks from transition. 5 night minimum, $200/night. I'd get on the waiting list asap if you're willing to pay that. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I haven't said too much here yet. Sounds like lots of young'uns smack talking. So . . . who else is doing IMLP that's old (45+)? Slow (just want to finish under the cutoff)? Still kinda pudgy? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sunfish - 2010-01-06 2:38 PM I haven't said too much here yet. Sounds like lots of young'uns smack talking. So . . . who else is doing IMLP that's old (45+)? Slow (just want to finish under the cutoff)? Still kinda pudgy? if 1 outta 3 counts, Tasr said old guy will kick my butt, though..... Edited by cusetri 2010-01-06 1:42 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() sunfish - 2010-01-06 2:38 PM I haven't said too much here yet. Sounds like lots of young'uns smack talking. So . . . who else is doing IMLP that's old (45+)? Slow (just want to finish under the cutoff)? Still kinda pudgy?
Hope to see you there. I am sure we will get a group met-up at the Gatorade swim. Wed-Fri maybe even Sat I guess. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cusetri - 2010-01-06 2:41 PM if 1 outta 3 counts, Tasr said old guy will kick my butt, though..... I don't know Mike. I took a look at that CT ride you did Sat. NICE................ ![]() I might have to try that ride. |
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![]() gopennstate - 2010-01-06 1:40 PM cusetri - 2010-01-06 10:48 AM Marvarnett - 2010-01-06 10:07 AM Wow... I find it funny that with all the fish talking about going fast in the swim and then I see :31 and :33 splits. So what does it mean when a rock like myself is coming out of the water in 1:00:25 (IM MOO) and 1:03 at (IM KY)? I will answer for you... YOU BETTER WORK!!* *slackers :P It means if you want to come anywhere close to your potential on the run, you should pace yourself better early on.... OH SNAP!!!!....smack talk back on.... oh i love this thread. No, you love chocolate, fine wine, and sticking cotton between your toes while painting your piggies and watching American Idol. Tell the truth |
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![]() cusetri - 2010-01-06 4:16 PM ^^^thanks....we'll see what happens on the course, though............ ![]() Only Germans win races on the bike. Remember, it's all about the run. Chris Lieto comes to mind |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dream Chaser - 2010-01-06 5:04 PM cusetri - 2010-01-06 4:16 PM ^^^thanks....we'll see what happens on the course, though............ ![]() Only Germans win races on the bike. Remember, it's all about the run. Chris Lieto comes to mind c'mon......first one to T2 wins, than any excuse in the book is good for why your run blew up. right now, I'm going with, something nutrition based.....like, "the coke wasn't flat enough." ![]() |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cusetri - 2010-01-06 6:54 PM Dream Chaser - 2010-01-06 5:04 PM cusetri - 2010-01-06 4:16 PM ^^^thanks....we'll see what happens on the course, though............ ![]() Only Germans win races on the bike. Remember, it's all about the run. Chris Lieto comes to mind c'mon......first one to T2 wins, than any excuse in the book is good for why your run blew up. right now, I'm going with, something nutrition based.....like, "the coke wasn't flat enough." ![]() Ha. I'm gonna be more like, "the hills weren't flat enough." |
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