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 2012-11-09 9:33 AM in reply to: #4491453 |
Champion  12759      Chicago |  Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted!tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 9:12 AM NRG42 - 2012-11-09 10:07 AM cgregg - 2012-11-09 8:59 AM NRG42 - 2012-11-09 9:57 AM cgregg - 2012-11-09 8:56 AM Good Morning TAN! Happy Friday!
Nipple chafing is not all it's cracked up to be. That is all. I miss nipple chafing. sigh Hi BFF Still no running? Howdy Cheri I can run in Jan :-) or when it is warm out side? How are your nerve symptoms? Have you recovered sensation and muscle strength? Hope so. I am still taking B6 and hoping for regeneration of the myelin. It has been nearly 4 years since surgery. I am finally done taking all meds, including the nerve medication. I have 80% of all nerve stimulation back and the growth of the nerves will continue and regenerate. So still a full recovery is expected by May. Muscle strength.....I am really weak and lost a lot of strength overall. Very hard for me to get back and rebuild.
Edited by NRG42 2012-11-09 9:36 AM |
| 2012-11-09 9:38 AM in reply to: #4491477 |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops... |
| 2012-11-09 9:41 AM in reply to: #4491453 |
Champion 18680 Lost in the Luminiferous Aether | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:12 AM NRG42 - 2012-11-09 10:07 AM cgregg - 2012-11-09 8:59 AM NRG42 - 2012-11-09 9:57 AM cgregg - 2012-11-09 8:56 AM Good Morning TAN! Happy Friday!
Nipple chafing is not all it's cracked up to be. That is all. I miss nipple chafing. sigh Hi BFF Still no running? Howdy Cheri I can run in Jan :-) or when it is warm out side? How are your nerve symptoms? Have you recovered sensation and muscle strength? Hope so. I am still taking B6 and hoping for regeneration of the myelin. It has been nearly 4 years since surgery. Why are you taking B6 (niacin) instead of B9 (folic acid) and B12 (Cobalamine.)? You can repair myelin but regeneration is rather sketchy at this point in the research efforts as far as I know. It has been a while since I did any real work in the area though. |
| 2012-11-09 9:43 AM in reply to: #4491482 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. |
| 2012-11-09 9:56 AM in reply to: #4491494 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops...mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW we already ask for a certain level of detail in quotes, and do a lot of our own internal research to be on top of what the equipment prices are so we can compare across different vendors on who is low-balling us, who is over charging us, etc. i get that they need to make money somewhere and i'm not about to take that away, but at least i know where they are way off on estimations and can plan my budget more accurately and hammer on them a little more. |
| 2012-11-09 10:23 AM in reply to: #4491525 |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:56 AM pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops...mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW we already ask for a certain level of detail in quotes, and do a lot of our own internal research to be on top of what the equipment prices are so we can compare across different vendors on who is low-balling us, who is over charging us, etc. i get that they need to make money somewhere and i'm not about to take that away, but at least i know where they are way off on estimations and can plan my budget more accurately and hammer on them a little more. You did make me go through the spreadsheet I'm about to send 3-4 times to be sure I removed all the formulas and just put plain text numbers in those cells  |
| 2012-11-09 10:25 AM in reply to: #4480979 |
| Alpharetta, Georgia | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! GoodMorningTAN! I woke up with an unfortunate spray tan pattern on my left hand. Made me laugh! |
| 2012-11-09 10:25 AM in reply to: #4491525 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! mehaner - 2012-11-09 9:56 AM pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops...mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW we already ask for a certain level of detail in quotes, and do a lot of our own internal research to be on top of what the equipment prices are so we can compare across different vendors on who is low-balling us, who is over charging us, etc. i get that they need to make money somewhere and i'm not about to take that away, but at least i know where they are way off on estimations and can plan my budget more accurately and hammer on them a little more. Ha people accidentally send us stuff all the time. Eighteen seconds later, it's on every news channel in the world. BOOM SHAKALAKA! |
| 2012-11-09 10:25 AM in reply to: #4491596 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! pitt83 - 2012-11-09 11:23 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:56 AM You did make me go through the spreadsheet I'm about to send 3-4 times to be sure I removed all the formulas and just put plain text numbers in those cells pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops...mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW we already ask for a certain level of detail in quotes, and do a lot of our own internal research to be on top of what the equipment prices are so we can compare across different vendors on who is low-balling us, who is over charging us, etc. i get that they need to make money somewhere and i'm not about to take that away, but at least i know where they are way off on estimations and can plan my budget more accurately and hammer on them a little more. that is my good deed for the day.
your turn -- i accidentally left my lunch at home on the counter. where should i go for lunch today? |
| 2012-11-09 10:29 AM in reply to: #4480979 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! i'm seriously having a blonde morning and cannot figure out how to pay my freaking cell phone bill. |
| 2012-11-09 10:31 AM in reply to: #4491604 |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:25 AM pitt83 - 2012-11-09 11:23 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:56 AM You did make me go through the spreadsheet I'm about to send 3-4 times to be sure I removed all the formulas and just put plain text numbers in those cells pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops...mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW we already ask for a certain level of detail in quotes, and do a lot of our own internal research to be on top of what the equipment prices are so we can compare across different vendors on who is low-balling us, who is over charging us, etc. i get that they need to make money somewhere and i'm not about to take that away, but at least i know where they are way off on estimations and can plan my budget more accurately and hammer on them a little more. that is my good deed for the day.
your turn -- i accidentally left my lunch at home on the counter. where should i go for lunch today? Wawa turkey bowl? Tis the season. |
| 2012-11-09 10:31 AM in reply to: #4491618 |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:29 AM i'm seriously having a blonde morning and cannot figure out how to pay my freaking cell phone bill. *611 on Verizon has an option for that |
| 2012-11-09 10:32 AM in reply to: #4491618 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! I got left behind in all my favorite threads from yesterday (stupid left coast timing)... But other than TAN, I'm only good for about a day in any given thread. |
| 2012-11-09 10:32 AM in reply to: #4491624 |
| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:31 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:29 AM i'm seriously having a blonde morning and cannot figure out how to pay my freaking cell phone bill. *611 on Verizon has an option for thatInsert check into pre-paid envelope.... |
| 2012-11-09 10:33 AM in reply to: #4491628 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! I can't BELIEVE is almost Thanksgiving (and other things). Time is flying... |
| 2012-11-09 10:35 AM in reply to: #4480979 |
Champion 12759 Chicago | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! Bought Quakers new Fit oatmeal, 100 calorie packs. Ate 4 packages, not sure that is how it is suppose to work?
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| 2012-11-09 10:35 AM in reply to: #4491630 |
| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! Kido - 2012-11-09 10:33 AM I can't BELIEVE is almost Thanksgiving (and other things). Time is flying... Time is fleeting ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtkdo7bOmJc |
| 2012-11-09 10:36 AM in reply to: #4491630 |
Champion 12759 Chicago | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! Kido - 2012-11-09 10:33 AM I can't BELIEVE is almost Thanksgiving (and other things). Time is flying... I am not working a full week until Next year....YAYAYAYYYAYAY!!!!!
I have 269 PLB hours to use before the end of the year. Sure wish they would pay me out!!! |
| 2012-11-09 10:36 AM in reply to: #4491622 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! pitt83 - 2012-11-09 11:31 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:25 AM Wawa turkey bowl? Tis the season.pitt83 - 2012-11-09 11:23 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:56 AM You did make me go through the spreadsheet I'm about to send 3-4 times to be sure I removed all the formulas and just put plain text numbers in those cells pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:30 AM I'm semit transparent about our pricing. I explain there a cretain things I can move on and some I can't. I can't just do a pass through cost for things we buy and use to produce their products and explain why. I can move on labor, internal resource costs, etc. My customers see what I've discounted and what I didn't; but don't know my mark-ups or margins. I just explain that, in all fairness, I must mark-up and make some money from pass through. It's like asking a builder to pass through lumber and nails at his cost and charge you nothing for the time and trouble to get them. The builder would go broke. They've got to make SOME money on those, but his real profit comes in the labor. You can move somewhat on that. But passing along your spreadsheets? Oops...mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:15 AM tech_geezer - 2012-11-09 10:08 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:03 AM my job is to predict costs for, request quotes, purchase, and install assembly equipment. one of my integrators just sent me (i think forwarded an email without thinking about it) the spreadsheet they use where the plug in their actual purchase costs, the overhead, the pricing scheme, everything that they build into the price they quote to me. they are going to get destroyed in negotiations. Are you concerned about the ethics of having and using that information? not so much. nothing on the document says confidential or internal or anything like that and this is why you should use the forward button sparingly. they know i have it by now and haven't said anything either. i would feel more tormented if they had asked me to delete it... You might do even better in negotiations if you told them that you realized the error and had deleted it and not passed the information on. Then again, I'm a sort of obsessive about honesty and fairness. It is like I have Tourette's syndrome, I just blurt out the truth. It hasn't always worked. TW we already ask for a certain level of detail in quotes, and do a lot of our own internal research to be on top of what the equipment prices are so we can compare across different vendors on who is low-balling us, who is over charging us, etc. i get that they need to make money somewhere and i'm not about to take that away, but at least i know where they are way off on estimations and can plan my budget more accurately and hammer on them a little more. that is my good deed for the day.
your turn -- i accidentally left my lunch at home on the counter. where should i go for lunch today? hmmm....nearest wawa is not really close enough but sounds fantastic. maybe i'll leave early... |
| 2012-11-09 10:38 AM in reply to: #4491629 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! 1stTimeTri - 2012-11-09 11:32 AM pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:31 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:29 AM i'm seriously having a blonde morning and cannot figure out how to pay my freaking cell phone bill. *611 on Verizon has an option for thatInsert check into pre-paid envelope.... smart arses. it's my work phone, it's at&t, i have to pay with a credit card, and at&t is telling me all account numbers are 13 digits and therefore the 12 digits i'm looking at here on my bill is not a legit account code. gosh. |
| 2012-11-09 10:38 AM in reply to: #4480979 |
Champion 12759 Chicago | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! Any one see the Rock Center last night with people being addicted to Virtual friends and the internet sites? Made me think of us TANners. |
| 2012-11-09 10:47 AM in reply to: #4491644 |
| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! mehaner - 2012-11-09 10:38 AM 1stTimeTri - 2012-11-09 11:32 AM pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:31 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:29 AM i'm seriously having a blonde morning and cannot figure out how to pay my freaking cell phone bill. *611 on Verizon has an option for thatInsert check into pre-paid envelope.... smart arses. it's my work phone, it's at&t, i have to pay with a credit card, and at&t is telling me all account numbers are 13 digits and therefore the 12 digits i'm looking at here on my bill is not a legit account code. gosh. Just trying to help here, below: I found this from a post somewhere: How do I find my account number online: |
| 2012-11-09 10:54 AM in reply to: #4491647 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! NRG42 - 2012-11-09 8:38 AM Any one see the Rock Center last night with people being addicted to Virtual friends and the internet sites? Made me think of us TANners. Hi Cheri. |
| 2012-11-09 10:54 AM in reply to: #4491639 |
| Iron Donkey 38643 , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! NRG42 - 2012-11-09 10:36 AM Kido - 2012-11-09 10:33 AM I can't BELIEVE is almost Thanksgiving (and other things). Time is flying... I am not working a full week until Next year....YAYAYAYYYAYAY!!!!!
I have 269 PLB hours to use before the end of the year. Sure wish they would pay me out!!! Noice! |
| 2012-11-09 10:55 AM in reply to: #4491644 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: TAN #187: sTANd and be counted! mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:38 AM 1stTimeTri - 2012-11-09 11:32 AM pitt83 - 2012-11-09 10:31 AM mehaner - 2012-11-09 11:29 AM i'm seriously having a blonde morning and cannot figure out how to pay my freaking cell phone bill. *611 on Verizon has an option for thatInsert check into pre-paid envelope.... smart arses. it's my work phone, it's at&t, i have to pay with a credit card, and at&t is telling me all account numbers are 13 digits and therefore the 12 digits i'm looking at here on my bill is not a legit account code. gosh. Don't pay it. Eventually a nice man will call you and you can give him the CC info. |
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