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dalessit - 2010-10-02 7:06 PM

Glad to hear you are ok suzy, what front wheel were you using?  That can be a big cause of things like that, deeper wheels on windy days can be a bit sketchy.



Tony: No deep wheels here....Reynolds private labels.....kind of wish I was riding the RU so it could have broken into a thousant little pieces and I could collect the insurance.

Doug: Have a great trip....hope the hamstrings are better.  Looking for an answer to REV3 when you return!!

Tracy: Where's the birthday girl???? what'd ya get?


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Suzy I am leaning toward going to Rev# is all I can say for now. I need to work things out with my coach.

BTW: As of today I have passed all of my SBR training distances from last year. There were running miles before April of 09 that I did not enter, but that should balance out with my run-focused off season.
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Happy Birthday Tracy!!!!

and a mini-Happy Birthday to Jacy, John's Mini-Me!!

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Happy Birthday Tracy!!!
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Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.
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Happy Birthday, Tracy!!!  Hope it is super special. 


Great job on your half, Trevor.  Looking good for Vegas!  (and Nov. 14.)


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TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.
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SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 10:59 AM
TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.


Slots? For real...? Black Jack or craps or nothing! The reast are suckers bets and even these need to be played well to get even close (but not quite) even odds.
2010-10-03 10:43 AM
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TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


That's a good PR for you, though, right Trevor? Congratulations!!

And yeah, I'm with Suzy... well, I'm OK with walking the aid stations because if you need to get water in you that's OK (I'm talking walk 5-6 steps!), but yeah, no potty breaks allowed in a half!! Go before the race and then hold it! The faster you run the sooner you can go again, ha ha!!

Well done, Trevor, well done!
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DougRob - 2010-10-03 10:09 AM
SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 10:59 AM
TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.


Slots? For real...? Black Jack or craps or nothing! The reast are suckers bets and even these need to be played well to get even close (but not quite) even odds.


Anything other than the slot machines, intimidate me.....for real.

Trev--I wasn't kidding, but you know I just have your best interest at heart, right?
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TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.


ROFL, Sam and I are sitting here rolling.  I just said the same thing to her, dude, it's a Half Marathon, hold it, or just be like Tracy and pee on yourself...   


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SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 9:43 AM
DougRob - 2010-10-03 10:09 AM
SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 10:59 AM
TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.


Slots? For real...? Black Jack or craps or nothing! The reast are suckers bets and even these need to be played well to get even close (but not quite) even odds.


Anything other than the slot machines, intimidate me.....for real.

Trev--I wasn't kidding, but you know I just have your best interest at heart, right?


Hang out with your twin at the craps table!  There is no greater rush than hitting a parlay bet!!!  (no jokes about not being able to reach the table, please)

And thanks, Tony, for not including me with Tracy in the "pee yourself" comment...although it would have been well deserved.  

Trevor-for realz, no stopping for the potty in a half!  No fluids for 30-45 minutes beforehand and you will be good to go...do this on your long runs (at Suzy's suggestion) and you will see it really works.  You should be well hydrated all of the time, no need for extra on race morning.
  
 
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kt65 - 2010-10-03 12:01 PM
SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 9:43 AM
DougRob - 2010-10-03 10:09 AM
SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 10:59 AM
TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.


Slots? For real...? Black Jack or craps or nothing! The reast are suckers bets and even these need to be played well to get even close (but not quite) even odds.


Anything other than the slot machines, intimidate me.....for real.

Trev--I wasn't kidding, but you know I just have your best interest at heart, right?


Hang out with your twin at the craps table!  There is no greater rush than hitting a parlay bet!!!  (no jokes about not being able to reach the table, please)

And thanks, Tony, for not including me with Tracy in the "pee yourself" comment...although it would have been well deserved.  

Trevor-for realz, no stopping for the potty in a half!  No fluids for 30-45 minutes beforehand and you will be good to go...do this on your long runs (at Suzy's suggestion) and you will see it really works.  You should be well hydrated all of the time, no need for extra on race morning.
  
 


Do you guys ever pee during your marathons? I always seem to pee on long runs (14+ miles), and would like not to pee during my mary. Last year at Portland Abbe and I peed around mile 4, in a porta-potty. No line, but I'm sure we lost a minute. Having a coach talk early this week about everything, including hydration during the race (I have been SUPER thirsty on all of my long runs). But I would like very much not to pee during my race!! Hydration will be a process deserving special attention all week long for me. I try to be very mindful of good hydration for 2-3 days prior to a long run. (Really, I try to be mindful at all times, but can grow lazy or slack a bit when I don't have a long run around the corner.)

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Realized this morning that I calculated a week off to start Out-season, so I have another week of active recovery.  Awesome!  Laughing  So, I broke out the mountain bike and rode down to watch some people running the in the Milwaukee Lakefront Marathon this morning and also rode the trails on the lake front.

Sometimes I forget how beautiful Lake Michigan can be and I only live 90 blocks from the beach:

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Beautiful pictures, must be a nice marathon too!

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Fall has officially arrived with a vengeance in Wisconsin......42F with wind gusts 25-35mph for my ride today.  First time ever I have been blown off my bike due to crosswinds while aero.  One guy had to hit the ditch, but both of us were pretty unscathed--left leg and hip are a little sore.  Needless to say, I feel like a fool.  I tucked my tail between my legs and cut my losses.  Likely the last outdoor longer ride of the season too.

Suzy, glad you were not hurt!  This time of year it is hard to let go of the outdoor rides. Trainer rides are just plain hard and boring sometimes.

By the way, at the Freedom's Run yesterday I saw a lot of minimalist and barefoot runners.  Very interesting!  The RD is a great guy and speaking to my tri club later this month.  He offered free vibrant footware to all of the 400 kids in the kids race if the parents promised to visit the 4 local national parks.  I paced my daughter through her 1st 10K and she was 1st in her AG.  We had a great time in wild, wonderful, WV!!

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SSMinnow - 2010-10-03 8:59 AM
TrevorC - 2010-10-02 10:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.


DUDE, you walked the aid stations in half marathon? and had to go to the bathroom? Seriously????  You've really got to work on that strategy.....I can't be waiting all day for you in Vegas when there are slot machines calling my name......get a fuelt belt and put on a Depend if necessary.


I'm getting old. the bladder was getting too full. It was close to busting open. There wa no way I could hold it another hour.
I did blow it a bit with the aid stations. I had a fuel belt ready to go, but elected not to take it.
This whole just  'running' thing is new.  I do think I overhydrate prior to my runs. Most of my longer runs so far, I've had to take a pitstop. When its a tri - you just go in the lake.


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Thanks everyone for the thoughts, messages and inspires.  It really does help to know that you're out there and praying for our friends and family.  This MG is truly awesome!! 



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Kyla--in the 13 marathons I have finished, I never went to the bathroom once, including IM. Having said that, most people would not recommend that strategy because you risk dehydaration which in the end can slow you down way more than a pee break.  In the early marathons I got dehydrated and cramped or bonked and it hurt my time....but the longer I did them, the more I knew my  sweet spot.    If you're close on time for the BQ, I say skip the bathroom even if it is embarrasing.

Dineen--We used to live on Lake Michigan and I loved it!!!!  did you actually count the number of blocks to the Lake?  Kind of geeky, no? Who did the donks do?

Linda--while I am testing out the Newtons, I cannot say I am entirely sold on completely changing your gait, esp. with the Vibrams.  I'm hoping I love them, but for now, the jury is out.

Pulled the trigger and signed up for the first Haunted Hustle Half Marathon on 10/30 which is 3 minutes from my house.  RD opened up a few more slots so I officially got one today...still not sure i will be able to compete based on discussions with the other boss in my life, but hopeful.  

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Kyla--in the 13 marathons I have finished, I never went to the bathroom once, including IM. Having said that, most people would not recommend that strategy because you risk dehydaration which in the end can slow you down way more than a pee break.  In the early marathons I got dehydrated and cramped or bonked and it hurt my time....but the longer I did them, the more I knew my  sweet spot.    If you're close on time for the BQ, I say skip the bathroom even if it is embarrasing.

Dineen--We used to live on Lake Michigan and I loved it!!!!  did you actually count the number of blocks to the Lake?  Kind of geeky, no? Who did the donks do?

Linda--while I am testing out the Newtons, I cannot say I am entirely sold on completely changing your gait, esp. with the Vibrams.  I'm hoping I love them, but for now, the jury is out.

Pulled the trigger and signed up for the first Haunted Hustle Half Marathon on 10/30 which is 3 minutes from my house.  RD opened up a few more slots so I officially got one today...still not sure i will be able to compete based on discussions with the other boss in my life, but hopeful.  

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OK, this really made me laugh. (I'd say it made me pee my pants but that hits too close to home, ha ha!)

Yeah, to me there is a sweet spot, as you say, of hydration w/o having to pee. I want to find it. I think I pee early on in most marathons, but only once and then I'm good to go. This is likely too much morning hydration, even though I hit the portas a few times pre-race. (Usually I go, then just get in line and go again!)

But see, if I have to pee it will be early so it's not like "Pee your pants in the last mile if you're close to qualifying." Early on it's still anyone's game, right?! Oh dear. Now this is going to give me something to stress out about all week long. I'm already entering the tummy-flutter stage, and I've been so incredibly zen for so long it's freaking me out.
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Kyla--in the 13 marathons I have finished, I never went to the bathroom once, including IM. Having said that, most people would not recommend that strategy because you risk dehydaration which in the end can slow you down way more than a pee break.  In the early marathons I got dehydrated and cramped or bonked and it hurt my time....but the longer I did them, the more I knew my  sweet spot.    If you're close on time for the BQ, I say skip the bathroom even if it is embarrasing.

Dineen--We used to live on Lake Michigan and I loved it!!!!  did you actually count the number of blocks to the Lake?  Kind of geeky, no? Who did the donks do?

Linda--while I am testing out the Newtons, I cannot say I am entirely sold on completely changing your gait, esp. with the Vibrams.  I'm hoping I love them, but for now, the jury is out.

Pulled the trigger and signed up for the first Haunted Hustle Half Marathon on 10/30 which is 3 minutes from my house.  RD opened up a few more slots so I officially got one today...still not sure i will be able to compete based on discussions with the other boss in my life, but hopeful.  

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OK, this really made me laugh. (I'd say it made me pee my pants but that hits too close to home, ha ha!)

Yeah, to me there is a sweet spot, as you say, of hydration w/o having to pee. I want to find it. I think I pee early on in most marathons, but only once and then I'm good to go. This is likely too much morning hydration, even though I hit the portas a few times pre-race. (Usually I go, then just get in line and go again!)

But see, if I have to pee it will be early so it's not like "Pee your pants in the last mile if you're close to qualifying." Early on it's still anyone's game, right?! Oh dear. Now this is going to give me something to stress out about all week long. I'm already entering the tummy-flutter stage, and I've been so incredibly zen for so long it's freaking me out.


Enter my no stress zone on hydration!!!  Here's my two cents...hydrated very, very well the three days leading up to the race.  Drink with breakfast to ensure your food digests well and then STOP.  I see people drinking Gatorade like crazy right up until the gun goes off and never understand it if they've been hdyrating well all week.  That doesn't mean drink water until you sprout either....that messes with your electrolytes. 


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nice job trev.  glad you're ok suzy.  hope everyone is having an awesome weekend.

i just bought my first pair of size 36 waist pants in, i think, 16 years.  my old 42's look funny and sad at the same time. 
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Kyla--in the 13 marathons I have finished, I never went to the bathroom once, including IM. Having said that, most people would not recommend that strategy because you risk dehydaration which in the end can slow you down way more than a pee break.  In the early marathons I got dehydrated and cramped or bonked and it hurt my time....but the longer I did them, the more I knew my  sweet spot.    If you're close on time for the BQ, I say skip the bathroom even if it is embarrasing.






Enter my no stress zone on hydration!!!  Here's my two cents...hydrated very, very well the three days leading up to the race.  Drink with breakfast to ensure your food digests well and then STOP.  I see people drinking Gatorade like crazy right up until the gun goes off and never understand it if they've been hdyrating well all week.  That doesn't mean drink water until you sprout either....that messes with your electrolytes. 



Thanks for that. I know Abbe spoke with LL about this as well, and I plan to have my own chat with him about it too. It all sounds good. When I am upping my fluids (i.e. CONSCIOUSLY and CONSCIENTIOUSLY hydrating a bit more than usual), I add in some Nuun for some of my drinks each day. I figure those electrolytes won't hurt at all. I LOVE (and NEED!!! and want!!!!) my coffee, so I like to drink extra water on race-day with that because of the dieuretic (sp?) effect it can have. So there must be a fine balance with that as well.

Fatty!!! Size 36!! AWESOME! Congratulations!!! You will need to change your user name. And some day you gotta change your avatar.

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Crap. DP. What oh-so-witty thing can I say here?

Yada yada yada.

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Antidisestablishmentarianism.

That's all I got.



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TrevorC - 2010-10-02 11:22 PM Ran my 1/2 today....Really wanted to break 2hrs. Course has a couple of pretty decent hills, so I knew I'd be tough.
2:02:48. Little disaapointed, but I know I ran it well. I only stopped running at aid stations, and I had a potty break as well.

Signed up tonight to run a 1/2 on Nov.14 which is downtown. Way flatter course.

Nice run Trev. Good PB. Stopping to pee puts a whole new slant on holding your own during the race. Gotta agree with everyone else though. No pee breaks just let her fly if you have to and  when you stop at the aid station you have to start again right away. No trying to pick up race booty

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