Dear Gov. D-bag of WI: (Page 33)

Nope.  Now he's a d-bag and a big money corporate tool in my eyes and I would definitely rally against him running.

crusevegas - 2011-03-09 7:53 PM

1stTimeTri - 2011-03-09 6:37 PM

crusevegas - 2011-03-09 8:32 PM

CBarnes - 2011-03-09 6:24 PM Congratulations Wisconsin 

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Way to go Gov. D-bag Walker,,,, & thank you for your persistence, the time you spent trying to get the fleeing 14 back and to work with them and the wisdom & courage to do what was necessary.


2016 Scott Walker for President!

Nope.  Now he's a d-bag and a big money corporate tool in my eyes and I would definitely rally against him running.

Shocked I'm shocked this didn't bring you around.

I hear Sharron Angle is available for VP.

Just an FYI: the vote was likely not legal and will probably be overturned tomorrow. So not only won't this pass, the Republican party just admitted that this collective bargaining portion has nothing to do with fiscal matters.

Political suicide with no benefit. Way to go!

Oh, and Scott Fitzgerald also admitted exactly that today. So, you know. Go team BS!

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/09/wisconsin-senate-leader-admits-union-busting-bill-is-about-defeating-obama/

When 2 BT'ers get into it, I have a concern.  He's not a BT'er (that I'm aware of).  I have more respect for my fellow BT'ers.  And, they aren't the ones making some crazy decision.

Did you watch the interview? The entire interview? Interesting how one can make whatever conclusions they want given a single sentence taken out of context. Interesting that the link you provide doesn't even show what the question was.

Good on Walker and the rest of the repubs for getting this passed. Now watch as all the people who supported the dems tucking tail and running, start crying about the bill being split. The dems break the rules and flee causing orders to be issued for their arrest and delivery to the capital, the repubs follow the rules to get their bill passed and somehow the repubs are terrible "shameful" losers.

BTW: Idaho just passed a bill limiting CBA and getting rid of tenure and other things for teachers. Idaho, now Wisconsin, looks like the unions aren't doing so hot.

Yet people got dinked for calling the President "O-bozo".  Same thing isn't it?

And the Repubs are introducing a Federal right to work bill.

ETA: forgot the link  http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/03/09/republicans-introduce-national-right-to-work-bill/

good stuff here...  nice examples of some of the issues with collective bargaining...

The cost of collective bargaining:

by Alberta Darling on Tuesday, March 8, 2011 at 12:34pm

While the main focus of the debate on collective bargaining has been on fiscal issues such as wages and benefits, there are plenty of "non-fiscal" issues like work schedules, choice of provider, and layoff procedures that have a big impact. The following examples are all due to the current collective bargaining process:

Example #1 - The $150,000 Bus Driver

 In 2009, the City of Madison's highest paid employee was a bus driver who earned $159,258, including $109,892 in overtime, guaranteed by a collective bargaining agreement. In total, seven City of Madison bus drivers made more than $100,000 per year in 2009.

 "That's the (drivers') contract," said Transit and Parking Commission Chairman Gary Poulson.

 Source: Wisconsin State Journal, 2/7/10

Example #2 - $800,000 for "Free" Viagra

Milwaukee Public Schools attempted to drop from its health insurance plan coverage of Viagra, saving $786,000 per year, enough to pay up to a dozen teachers. The teachers union sued the district to regain coverage.

 Source: ABC News, 8/12/10

 Example #3 - A Year's Worth of Pay for 30 Days of Work

 Under the Green Bay School District's collectively bargained Emeritus Program, teachers can retire and receive a year's worth of salary for working only 30 days over a three year period. This is paid in addition to their already guaranteed pension and health care payouts.

At the average annual salary for a Green Bay teacher of $51,355, this amounts to a daily rate of pay of $1,711.83, or an hourly rate of $213.98. Since most retiring teachers receive higher than average salary, these amounts are, in practice, much higher.

 Source: WLUK-TV, 3/3/11

Example #4 - $150,000 Correctional Officers

Correctional Officer collective bargaining agreements allow officers a practice known as "sick leave stacking." Officers can call in sick for a shift, receiving 8 hours of sick pay, and then are allowed to work the very next shift, earning time-and-a-half for overtime. This results in the officer receiving 2.5 times his or her rate of pay, while still only working 8 hours.

 In part because of these practices, 13 correctional officers made more than $100,000 in 2009, despite earning base wages of less than $60,000 per year. The officers received an average of $66,000 in overtime pay for an average annual salary of more than $123,000 with the highest paid receiving $151,181.

 Source: Department of Corrections

Example #5 - 'Outstanding First Year Teacher' Laid Off

Milwaukee Public Schools teacher Megan Sampson was laid off less than one week after being named Outstanding First Year Teacher by the Wisconsin Council of English Teachers. She lost her job because the collective bargaining agreement requires layoffs to be made based on seniority rather than merit.

Informed that her union had rejected a lower-cost health care plan, that still would have required zero contribution from teachers, Sampson said, "Given the opportunity, of course I would switch to a different plan to save my job, or the jobs of 10 other teachers.

 Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 6/14/10

 Example #6 - Taxpayers Pay $68 Million for Union Health Insurance Monopoly

An updated review of a 2005 WPRI study concluded that school districts could save $68 million by switching from their expensive WEA Trust insurance plans to the state health insurance plan. Switching to a competitively priced private sector plan would save more money still. Collective bargaining agreements effectively give the teachers union a veto over any effort to change providers, however. As a result, WEA Trust insures about two-thirds of Wisconsin's school districts.

Source: WPRI, WASB, ETF, DPI, WEA Trust

Example #7 - Arbitrator Reinstates Porn-Watching Teacher

A Cedarburg school teacher was reinstated by an arbitrator after being fired for viewing pornography on a school computer. The school district ultimately succeeded in terminating the teacher only after taking the case to the Wisconsin Supreme Court at great cost to the taxpayers.

Source: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 8/23/08

Example #8 - Taxpayers Pay 800 Government Employees to Conduct Union Business

In 2010, the state allowed paid time off for 805 employees to conduct union business. Total cost to the taxpayers was $433,333.

 Source: Office of State Employment Relations

Example #9 - Union Opposes Cost-Saving Lawn Mowing Program

As a cost cutting measure, Racine County began using county inmates to cut the grass in medians and right-of-ways at no cost to the taxpayers. A county employee union filed a grievance indicating it was the right of government workers to cut the grass, even though it would cost the taxpayers dramatically more.

Source: Racine Journal Times, 5/12/10 

Example #10 - $6,000 Extra for Carrying a Pager

Some state employees, due to the nature of their positions, are required to carry pagers during off-duty hours in order to respond to emergency situations. Due to the collective bargaining agreements, these employees are compensated an extra five hours of pay each week, whether they are paged or not.

For an employee earning an average salary of $50,000 per year, this requirement can cost more than $6,000 in additional compensation.

Source: 2008-09 Agreement between the State of Wisconsin and AFSCME Council 24

Example #11 - No Volunteer Crossing Guards Allowed

A Wausau public employee union filed a grievance to prohibit a local volunteer from serving as a school crossing guard. The 86-year-old lives just two blocks away and serves everyday free of charge.

Principal Steve Miller says, "He said, you know, this gives me a reason to get up in the morning to come and help these kids in the neighborhood."

But for a local union that represents crossing guards, it isn't that simple. Representatives didn't want to go on camera but say if a crossing guard is needed, then one should be officially hired by the city.

Source: WAOW-TV, 1/27/10

Example #12 - Teachers Receiving Two Pensions

Due to a 1982 provision of their collective bargaining agreement, Milwaukee Public School teachers actually receive two pensions upon retirement instead of one. The contribution to the second pension is equal to 4.2% of a teacher's salary, with the school district making 100% of the contribution, just like they do for the first pension. This extra benefit costs taxpayers more than $16 million per year.

Source: February 17, 2010 Press Release, Process of developing FY11 budget begins Milwaukee Public Schools

Example #13 - Almost $10,000 per Year for Doing Nothing

While the Green Bay Emeritus Program actually requires teachers to at least show up for work, the Madison Emeritus Program doesn't even require that. In addition to their pension payouts, retired Madison public school teachers receive annual payments of at least $9,884.18 per year for enrolling in the Emeritus Program, which requires ZERO days of work.

When this program began, 20 days of work per year were required. Through collective bargaining, the union successfully negotiated this down to zero days.

Source: Madison Teachers Inc. Website