Mad Manatees Mentor Group - VERY CLOSED!!! Sorry! (Page 36)

JJ- - 2013-01-07 10:54 PM 91 days until my first HIM. Getting nervous, anxious, excited, and every other emotion. Plan calls for 12.5 hours this week. Going to be a good week!

cdban66 - 2013-01-07 8:09 PM

This week ended with two runs, a long one on Sat and a shorty on Sun. Both were good, so the training last week ended on a high note. It's all good. This week started out a bit slow, this morning didn't happen, so I'll be makeup running this afternoon when I get home. Everything in my legs was real tight when I woke up. It is starting to loosen up now, but a full day of intense desk jockeying is not going to help

So how goes it all, what does your week/month look like? I have an objective to run 95 miles this month, which I think would be the biggest running month for me yet. I'll have to do a look back. Enjoy whatever your day brings!

Richardsdrr - 2013-01-07 3:09 PM What's your name on trainer road, so I can look at the ride you just did to see how much the power was jumping around. As for setting it up for a specific model, it is important because each model has a unique power/speed curve ratio, so I would imagine it can screw with the power output as speed increases. You should pose the question to Nate on trainer roads forum/support, he's usually really quick at getting back to you. Have you thought about putting a couple of pics up of the trainer on the main forum to see if someone can identify which model is on there. Sorry I haven't been on for a while peeps, been hectic in work, and a full(ish) training schedule, but I have been lurking and thanks for all the inspires . I have two days off now, I can get 3 hours sleep now before I'm back up to look after my daughter, Emmy-Lou, who still hasn't gone back to school, oh the joy.

cdban66 - 2013-01-07 7:09 AM

This week ended with two runs, a long one on Sat and a shorty on Sun. Both were good, so the training last week ended on a high note. It's all good. This week started out a bit slow, this morning didn't happen, so I'll be makeup running this afternoon when I get home. Everything in my legs was real tight when I woke up. It is starting to loosen up now, but a full day of intense desk jockeying is not going to help

So how goes it all, what does your week/month look like? I have an objective to run 95 miles this month, which I think would be the biggest running month for me yet. I'll have to do a look back. Enjoy whatever your day brings!

Muskrat37 - 2013-01-08 12:03 AM Yanti - are you back?  Hope you are feeling better...

Richardsdrr - 2013-01-06 11:09 PM What's your name on trainer road, so I can look at the ride you just did to see how much the power was jumping around. As for setting it up for a specific model, it is important because each model has a unique power/speed curve ratio, so I would imagine it can screw with the power output as speed increases. You should pose the question to Nate on trainer roads forum/support, he's usually really quick at getting back to you. Have you thought about putting a couple of pics up of the trainer on the main forum to see if someone can identify which model is on there. Sorry I haven't been on for a while peeps, been hectic in work, and a full(ish) training schedule, but I have been lurking and thanks for all the inspires . I have two days off now, I can get 3 hours sleep now before I'm back up to look after my daughter, Emmy-Lou, who still hasn't gone back to school, oh the joy.

JJ- - 2013-01-07 7:54 AM 91 days until my first HIM. Getting nervous, anxious, excited, and every other emotion. Plan calls for 12.5 hours this week. Going to be a good week!

TriAya - 2013-01-07 7:22 AM

Emmy-Lou Who! What a wonderful name, Daz

Anyway, I agree.  And either I saw it in this thread already or somewhere else or it's something I know to do but don't actually do--make sure your trainer tyre is inflated to the same pressure and that you've got it positioned with exactly the same tension on the trainer every time.

bcraht - 2013-01-08 12:29 AM

Rim drive, so tire inflation don't come into play.  And my bike lives on the trainer right now, so tension never changes.

TriAya - 2013-01-07 8:26 AM

Thanks, Skrat! Muchly. Enough to take a test swim this morning, felt okay, will postpone B/R to tomorrow. Really kept in mind your thoughts about push phase--used paddles to feel/imprint and then transfer to free. At this point I'm making it more of a "mindfulness" than trying to make a big change.

I am eager to watch your vids and will as soon as I can, which may mean finding a faster connection (I work from home off a USB modem which is fine for posting, e-mails but no bueno for AV, and is also spotty during rainy season).

Have some required reading for you: Ernest Maglischo's Swimming Fast, Swimming Faster, and Swimming Fastest. Sheila Taormina's ... crap, I don't know, I have a copy with her original title but don't recall what it's titled now. Anyway, her book. Also, are you on the USMS forums? They're a gold mine for advanced swimmers and coaches. A couple of BTers and a fair amount of STers are there too. You may want to apply for swimsmooth's coaching forum--it's hard to get into but always worth applying.

Push phase is controversial (it's interesting to read the various theories, controversies and data analyses, though). Have you read Rod Havriluk's stuff on it? He posts here occasionally.

Muskrat37 - 2013-01-08 12:50 AM

I am eager for your feedback on my videos.  I am heading to the pool this evening to really work the "S" pull out of my stroke.  I don't feel as though my "S" pull is all bad as I don't focus on the "outward" motion at the beginning of it.  I know the science behind it has ruled it has "no" advantage, but the only negative I could find on it is that it is hard on the shoulders.  I have never had any issues with my rotator cuff or shoulders though.  

I did notice in my videos though that I have a "classic" thumb entry into the water,  (Part of my "S" pull training as a kid) and that I am close to "center" and even cross center at the top of my stroke (especially with the left hand when fatigued).  Tonight I will be working on a flat hand entry - parallel to my ears and minimizing the "S" tonight.  Going to really focus on it and video it - so I will post updates for us to analyze.  

I'm hesitant, but also excited to change my stroke.  Hesitant, because I'm very happy with my swim times (1 hour IM swim is pretty easy for me), but excited, because if a revised stroke means less energy and/or faster times, I'm totally down with that!    

Anyways, let me know what you think about the current videos.... I'm truly excited to read your analysis. 

TriAya - 2013-01-07 8:48 AM school, oh the joy.

Rim drive, so tire inflation don't come into play.  And my bike lives on the trainer right now, so tension never changes.

Duh. You said that. Reedin' kamprehenzhun, it's a gud ...

Tension knob? Or how does that work?

TriAya - 2013-01-07 8:56 AM

Do you have a bathtub?

TriAya - 2013-01-07 8:26 AM

Thanks, Skrat! Muchly. Enough to take a test swim this morning, felt okay, will postpone B/R to tomorrow. Really kept in mind your thoughts about push phase--used paddles to feel/imprint and then transfer to free. At this point I'm making it more of a "mindfulness" than trying to make a big change.

I am eager to watch your vids and will as soon as I can, which may mean finding a faster connection (I work from home off a USB modem which is fine for posting, e-mails but no bueno for AV, and is also spotty during rainy season).

Have some required reading for you: Ernest Maglischo's Swimming Fast, Swimming Faster, and Swimming Fastest. Sheila Taormina's ... crap, I don't know, I have a copy with her original title but don't recall what it's titled now. Anyway, her book. Also, are you on the USMS forums? They're a gold mine for advanced swimmers and coaches. A couple of BTers and a fair amount of STers are there too. You may want to apply for swimsmooth's coaching forum--it's hard to get into but always worth applying.

Push phase is controversial (it's interesting to read the various theories, controversies and data analyses, though). Have you read Rod Havriluk's stuff on it? He posts here occasionally.

Muskrat37 - 2013-01-08 1:09 AM

Yes  ??

Asalzwed - 2013-01-08 2:00 AM

Alright guys I am about to drop a bomb on you guys. I have a decision to make in a couple weeks and I am extremely open to suggestions. I just don't know what I should do.

I am halfway considering the Oly Nationals BUT I only want to go if I think I can be somewhat competitive and have a chance at finishing in the top 20.

It appears (from last years results) that means approximately a 1:40 per hundred swim, 22 MPH bike, 43 minute 10K. Obviously these are ballpark numbers and due to the nature of triathlon there is some give and take with these numbers.

Now, unfortunately I don't have a great indicator of exactly where I fall because my last and most competitive triathlon (sprint distance) I have done was with no bike training (other than riding to work) and about 4 weeks swimming (2 times per week) Also, it was a sprint.  But, it's a place to start. My times were 1:59 per hundred m for the swim, 19.29 MPH for the bike course (hilly) and, well I think the run is not something I will worry about for now. 

Now IF I am going to do this, training needs to start right after Boston. I was thinking I could take a few weeks off running (which I will have to do anyway) and go straight to the pool. If I can get someone to help me with my stroke early on (Chad? ) and be consistent I think there is a lot of room for improvement for my swimming (obviously.)

I think in terms of biking I just need to do some longer sessions and work hard and pushing the pace every time I am out there. But I am not sure specifically how I will tackle this.

The running will drop down in MPW but I would probably focus on more intensity.

Other information you should know: If I start right after Boston I would have almost 4 months of training. 

 

So, I don't know exactly what I am asking. I guess first off, how does this sound? Doable? What else should I keep in mind? Is my little roadie that doesn't really fit me very well (I am pretty sure) going to get me where I need to be? Should I invest in a proper fit even though I am quite certain it's too small for me? Most important, is this going to set me back in my long term running goals?

Asalzwed - 2013-01-07 1:00 PM

Alright guys I am about to drop a bomb on you guys. I have a decision to make in a couple weeks and I am extremely open to suggestions. I just don't know what I should do.

I am halfway considering the Oly Nationals BUT I only want to go if I think I can be somewhat competitive and have a chance at finishing in the top 20.

It appears (from last years results) that means approximately a 1:40 per hundred swim, 22 MPH bike, 43 minute 10K. Obviously these are ballpark numbers and due to the nature of triathlon there is some give and take with these numbers.

Now, unfortunately I don't have a great indicator of exactly where I fall because my last and most competitive triathlon (sprint distance) I have done was with no bike training (other than riding to work) and about 4 weeks swimming (2 times per week) Also, it was a sprint.  But, it's a place to start. My times were 1:59 per hundred m for the swim, 19.29 MPH for the bike course (hilly) and, well I think the run is not something I will worry about for now. 

Now IF I am going to do this, training needs to start right after Boston. I was thinking I could take a few weeks off running (which I will have to do anyway) and go straight to the pool. If I can get someone to help me with my stroke early on (Chad? ) and be consistent I think there is a lot of room for improvement for my swimming (obviously.)

I think in terms of biking I just need to do some longer sessions and work hard and pushing the pace every time I am out there. But I am not sure specifically how I will tackle this.

The running will drop down in MPW but I would probably focus on more intensity.

Other information you should know: If I start right after Boston I would have almost 4 months of training. 

 

So, I don't know exactly what I am asking. I guess first off, how does this sound? Doable? What else should I keep in mind? Is my little roadie that doesn't really fit me very well (I am pretty sure) going to get me where I need to be? Should I invest in a proper fit even though I am quite certain it's too small for me? Most important, is this going to set me back in my long term running goals?

cdban66 - 2013-01-07 12:05 PM

You scare me

I thought Rainier was in the list. And some other stuff as well. And now Nationals in Oly distance. Is there nothing you can't do?????

Asalzwed - 2013-01-07 11:00 AM

Alright guys I am about to drop a bomb on you guys. I have a decision to make in a couple weeks and I am extremely open to suggestions. I just don't know what I should do.

I am halfway considering the Oly Nationals BUT I only want to go if I think I can be somewhat competitive and have a chance at finishing in the top 20.

It appears (from last years results) that means approximately a 1:40 per hundred swim, 22 MPH bike, 43 minute 10K. Obviously these are ballpark numbers and due to the nature of triathlon there is some give and take with these numbers.

Now, unfortunately I don't have a great indicator of exactly where I fall because my last and most competitive triathlon (sprint distance) I have done was with no bike training (other than riding to work) and about 4 weeks swimming (2 times per week) Also, it was a sprint.  But, it's a place to start. My times were 1:59 per hundred m for the swim, 19.29 MPH for the bike course (hilly) and, well I think the run is not something I will worry about for now. 

Now IF I am going to do this, training needs to start right after Boston. I was thinking I could take a few weeks off running (which I will have to do anyway) and go straight to the pool. If I can get someone to help me with my stroke early on (Chad? ) and be consistent I think there is a lot of room for improvement for my swimming (obviously.)

I think in terms of biking I just need to do some longer sessions and work hard and pushing the pace every time I am out there. But I am not sure specifically how I will tackle this.

The running will drop down in MPW but I would probably focus on more intensity.

Other information you should know: If I start right after Boston I would have almost 4 months of training. 

 

So, I don't know exactly what I am asking. I guess first off, how does this sound? Doable? What else should I keep in mind? Is my little roadie that doesn't really fit me very well (I am pretty sure) going to get me where I need to be? Should I invest in a proper fit even though I am quite certain it's too small for me? Most important, is this going to set me back in my long term running goals?