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 2011-01-18 6:07 AM in reply to: #3305089 |
Master  1343    Minneapolis, Minnesota |  Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSEDGmrGirl - 2011-01-17 6:32 PM Triathlynne - 2011-01-17 1:58 PM Ok I have an acupunture consultation on Friday. The guy seemed very nice and informative. Will see what works for me. Other than that I just seem to have this overwhelming feeling of grief hanging over me. I dont know how or why but I'm thinking of upping my vit D intake just for a bit. Think that would work??? January is an icky dreary month for most people anyway. Don't sweat it. Vitamin D may help but I find just getting outside for a walk helps alot (Natural Vitamin D). Since I have to do all of my training outside I have found that I am a LOT less depressed than I used to be. Being an extremely emotional person I get the whole roller coaster ride, generally the highs make up for the lows. If you have to, wallow for a day or two and then shake yourself and say enough. Wise words. I'm a S.A.D. sufferer...until I moved to Florida anyway. So those cold Iowa, Chicago, New York, and Connecticut days were tough. Anytime I could spend outside in the bright sun helped a LOT. Especially when I go to and get home from work, in the dark. HAD to go out at lunch time and walk around. Face to the sky if possible. I'm an emotional person also... kind of a junkie.  |
| 2011-01-18 7:09 AM in reply to: #3256268 |
Elite 4583  | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED Morning McFuzzies! Have a great training week! To my smokin' friends (both smokin' hot and smokin') Keep up the fight! We're all pulling for you! |
| 2011-01-18 7:55 AM in reply to: #3305681 |
Extreme Veteran 1700 Normal, Ill. | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED McFuzz - 2011-01-18 5:29 AM ecpasos - 2011-01-17 10:42 PM Question for the IM distance experienced ones... IMO, there is little value doing a shorter race (sprint/OLY) ahead of an Ironman. They're very different beasts. A HIM? Maybe, if there's time to recover. If you decide to do a shorter race, my suggestion is to use it to practice pacing more than nutrition. If you expect a 18 mph bike split for the Ironman, target an 18 mph bike split for the shorter race. If you come in within 30 seconds (either way) of that target time, call it a success. Yea, you could probably go faster (which is exactly what you'll be thinking in the first 30 miles of Vineman), but this lets you "race" according to your strategy, not that of the people whizzing by you. As for nutrition, work on it during your long rides/runs. Then, assuming you've been consuming 250 calories/hour in training, back off that (to maybe 200) for the race. The adrenaline and added pressure of the race might make it difficult to absorb that much. You can always eat a few more calories, but if you've got too much just sitting in your stomach, nothing good will happen. Before IM Wisconsin, I'm signed for a sprint in June and an oly in July because 1. they are my club races and I love the folks, great times, 2. they will help me with transitions 3. I want to mix it up in the water with folks at the start to get the feel of the clawing that will take place and practice tarzaning it until I get an opening and can swim. Other than that, there is a Masters Central Illinois Open Water Swim (COWS) here in later July where you can do 1.2 or 2.4. I did 1.2 last year and it was good to do. I might do the 2.4 just to pace. As for longer races, I don't think so. I can go to Wisconsin with Vision Quest and Beginner Triathlete and practice on the course and my nutrition (Hammer fluid products). I think that would be energy better spent. Transitions, swim rehearsal in race conditions, pacing, gear testing...those are the goals of pre-races for me. What do you all think? |
| 2011-01-18 8:54 AM in reply to: #3305829 |
Veteran 323 Sandusky, OH | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED IceManScott - 2011-01-18 8:55 AM McFuzz - 2011-01-18 5:29 AM ecpasos - 2011-01-17 10:42 PM Question for the IM distance experienced ones... IMO, there is little value doing a shorter race (sprint/OLY) ahead of an Ironman. They're very different beasts. A HIM? Maybe, if there's time to recover. If you decide to do a shorter race, my suggestion is to use it to practice pacing more than nutrition. If you expect a 18 mph bike split for the Ironman, target an 18 mph bike split for the shorter race. If you come in within 30 seconds (either way) of that target time, call it a success. Yea, you could probably go faster (which is exactly what you'll be thinking in the first 30 miles of Vineman), but this lets you "race" according to your strategy, not that of the people whizzing by you. As for nutrition, work on it during your long rides/runs. Then, assuming you've been consuming 250 calories/hour in training, back off that (to maybe 200) for the race. The adrenaline and added pressure of the race might make it difficult to absorb that much. You can always eat a few more calories, but if you've got too much just sitting in your stomach, nothing good will happen. Before IM Wisconsin, I'm signed for a sprint in June and an oly in July because 1. they are my club races and I love the folks, great times, 2. they will help me with transitions 3. I want to mix it up in the water with folks at the start to get the feel of the clawing that will take place and practice tarzaning it until I get an opening and can swim. Other than that, there is a Masters Central Illinois Open Water Swim (COWS) here in later July where you can do 1.2 or 2.4. I did 1.2 last year and it was good to do. I might do the 2.4 just to pace. As for longer races, I don't think so. I can go to Wisconsin with Vision Quest and Beginner Triathlete and practice on the course and my nutrition (Hammer fluid products). I think that would be energy better spent. Transitions, swim rehearsal in race conditions, pacing, gear testing...those are the goals of pre-races for me. What do you all think? I think that the races will be good for you if it would help you w/ transitions, mentally, etc... Just remember that they are not your "A" races. Practicing your open water swims are great too. I made sure I got out in the lake alot esp during my taper weeks leading up to the race. Practicing on the course=HUGE. I was so lucky that I basically rode the coarse from my house... I'm really kinda "jealous" b/c there is no way i'll be able to do St. George's course before the race... Honestly kinda freaked out about it. Edited by laurak11 2011-01-18 8:55 AM |
| 2011-01-18 9:28 AM in reply to: #3256268 |
Extreme Veteran 1700 Normal, Ill. | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED Laura, do you have a Computrainer or know someone who has? You can probably get the Real Course Video for the course. True, it is not the same as doing it live. But it does give you a feel for it. You can see the profile for one. For another, they are filmed during an actually event so you can get a sense of people around you, where the fuel stops are and I was even able to answer the burning question my wife had - where are the Porta Potties. |
| 2011-01-18 10:42 AM in reply to: #3256268 |
Champion 7558 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED OK everyone! We're now half-way through January and reality has crashed hard into our dreams and aspirations. For us midwesterners, it's COLD outside, and for everyone else, there's just not much daylight and what is there is grey and thin (mostly). While things may not be going EXACTLY the way we'd planned, everyone should be able to point to one or two successes so far this year. I'll start by saying this (very large) mentor group has gelled nicely. Lots of questions, lots of advice, and lots of inspires being traded back and forth. It's kinda fun to pull up BT and see that I've got 6 new inspires. It's fun to see double-digit numbers in my daily inspires. I've managed to get tri-specific workouts in most days, and I'm confident that I'll hit my 25-hour goal for the month (without resorting to a 6-hour training ride on the 31st). |
| 2011-01-18 10:45 AM in reply to: #3305964 |
Veteran 240 Angola, IN | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED laurak11 - 2011-01-18 8:54 AM IceManScott - 2011-01-18 8:55 AM McFuzz - 2011-01-18 5:29 AM I'm really kinda "jealous" b/c there is no way i'll be able to do St. George's course before the race... Honestly kinda freaked out about it. . Don't sweat the fact that you cannot ride the bike section befor the race. I had no idea about the IMKY bike course before Friday of race week. I rode the course on my motorcycle, just to spot any trouble areas. No big suprises really, it was still 112 miles of riding my bicycle on a road made for cars no matter how you cut it. There are lots of race reports, and if you check out the race website for IM it will have an elevation chart that is very easy to understsand and helpful for making your raceplan. I would say that it won't be much different than what you are already expecting. You will be fine. "Giddyup Kid!" Edited by discipleguideservice 2011-01-18 10:46 AM |
| 2011-01-18 10:57 AM in reply to: #3256268 |
Extreme Veteran 469 Albany, NY | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED Hola from the frozen north. Yet another storm has decided to roll through. We were lucky enough to get another 4-5inches of snow overnight with freezing rain all afternoon today. Needless to say runs will be kept inside. Hope everyone had a good long weekend. When it comes to doing a longer race pre IM...I wouldn't do a HIM unless you have plenty of time to recover. An Oly might be good. Transitions will be way different, from my experience, at a larger events. I've only done the Ironman in Lake Placid, so I'm not sure the setup of transitions at other Iron distance races, but, its quite the setup. I would do the longer distance bikes as a training session a few times with throwing in a run after a couple just to get the feel. |
| 2011-01-18 11:28 AM in reply to: #3256268 |
Extreme Veteran 469 Albany, NY | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED What do you guys think of Starbucks new 31oz cup they are introducing? I was completely berated in COJ for thinking its ridiculous. I failed to mention that I wasn't referring to Starbucks alone, but rather the whole "super size me" mentality that America has become. Therefore someone thought I implied Starbucks was to blame for the obesity epidemic. |
| 2011-01-18 12:09 PM in reply to: #3306452 |
Champion 7558 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED zee744 - 2011-01-18 11:28 AM What do you guys think of Starbucks new 31oz cup they are introducing? I was completely berated in COJ for thinking its ridiculous. I failed to mention that I wasn't referring to Starbucks alone, but rather the whole "super size me" mentality that America has become. Therefore someone thought I implied Starbucks was to blame for the obesity epidemic. I missed that one. Other than caffeine and $$, a 31-oz Starbucks isn't any different to me than a 16-oz Starbucks. The beauty of drinking coffee straight-black. (My wife and kids call me boring.) |
| 2011-01-18 12:10 PM in reply to: #3305681 |
Expert 961 Illinois _ Chicago area | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED McFuzz - 2011-01-18 5:29 AM ecpasos - 2011-01-17 10:42 PM Question for the IM distance experienced ones... IMO, there is little value doing a shorter race (sprint/OLY) ahead of an Ironman. They're very different beasts. A HIM? Maybe, if there's time to recover. If you decide to do a shorter race, my suggestion is to use it to practice pacing more than nutrition. If you expect a 18 mph bike split for the Ironman, target an 18 mph bike split for the shorter race. If you come in within 30 seconds (either way) of that target time, call it a success. Yea, you could probably go faster (which is exactly what you'll be thinking in the first 30 miles of Vineman), but this lets you "race" according to your strategy, not that of the people whizzing by you. As for nutrition, work on it during your long rides/runs. Then, assuming you've been consuming 250 calories/hour in training, back off that (to maybe 200) for the race. The adrenaline and added pressure of the race might make it difficult to absorb that much. You can always eat a few more calories, but if you've got too much just sitting in your stomach, nothing good will happen. X2 Good advice |
| 2011-01-18 12:11 PM in reply to: #3306452 |
Extreme Veteran 1700 Normal, Ill. | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED zee744 - 2011-01-18 11:28 AM What do you guys think of Starbucks new 31oz cup they are introducing? I was completely berated in COJ for thinking its ridiculous. I failed to mention that I wasn't referring to Starbucks alone, but rather the whole "super size me" mentality that America has become. Therefore someone thought I implied Starbucks was to blame for the obesity epidemic. I guess I won't tell you about the thermos cup I fill every morning with coffee (a pot) on the way to work for a $1 or how I fill it with green tea for an aa meeting at night. Big cups of coffee only spare me trips to refill. And before anyone goes there, all kinds of information is out there about how caffeine is not bad, even can be good for endurance sports. Different than the super sized fries, four double cheese burgers and a blizzard (large) I used to have for supper. Of course I had a diet coke with it and skipped breakfast 'cause I was trying to cut back. |
| 2011-01-18 12:30 PM in reply to: #3306560 |
Extreme Veteran 469 Albany, NY | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED IceManScott - 2011-01-18 1:11 PM zee744 - 2011-01-18 11:28 AM What do you guys think of Starbucks new 31oz cup they are introducing? I was completely berated in COJ for thinking its ridiculous. I failed to mention that I wasn't referring to Starbucks alone, but rather the whole "super size me" mentality that America has become. Therefore someone thought I implied Starbucks was to blame for the obesity epidemic. I guess I won't tell you about the thermos cup I fill every morning with coffee (a pot) on the way to work for a $1 or how I fill it with green tea for an aa meeting at night. Big cups of coffee only spare me trips to refill. And before anyone goes there, all kinds of information is out there about how caffeine is not bad, even can be good for endurance sports. Different than the super sized fries, four double cheese burgers and a blizzard (large) I used to have for supper. Of course I had a diet coke with it and skipped breakfast 'cause I was trying to cut back. Hey, I drink 3-4 "cups" of coffee a day. I say "cups" because an acutal cup of coffee is 6oz, my 3-4 are approx 10-14oz each. I'm not taking issue with the idea of it for coffee/tea. My issue was that it was going to be a cup for all drinks, including fraps. I missed the part in the article saying it was for iced coffee, tea and lemonade. I saw the "larger cold beverages" part and thought "that would be terrible for fraps because they're sooooo flipping bad for you." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/bs_nm/us_starbucks Like I said the "ridiculous" wasn't referring to Starbucks releasing a bigger cup, but rather that they have to because people want it. |
| 2011-01-18 2:26 PM in reply to: #3306306 |
Expert 1146 Chugiak, Alaska | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED McFuzz - 2011-01-18 10:42 AM OK everyone! We're now half-way through January and reality has crashed hard into our dreams and aspirations. For us midwesterners, it's COLD outside, and for everyone else, there's just not much daylight and what is there is grey and thin (mostly). While things may not be going EXACTLY the way we'd planned, everyone should be able to point to one or two successes so far this year. I'll start by saying this (very large) mentor group has gelled nicely. Lots of questions, lots of advice, and lots of inspires being traded back and forth. It's kinda fun to pull up BT and see that I've got 6 new inspires. It's fun to see double-digit numbers in my daily inspires. I've managed to get tri-specific workouts in most days, and I'm confident that I'll hit my 25-hour goal for the month (without resorting to a 6-hour training ride on the 31st). Successes - still enjoying "the process" and get excited about working out. Have really focused on my run and have stayed consistent on the run. Failures - missed 4 workouts in a row b/c I didn't want to bother with it when I was on vacation. Still enjoying the glass(es) of wine at night. It may be cold here in WY, but the bright blue skies make up for it. Definately helps with the S.A.D. Cheers! Robin |
| 2011-01-18 2:28 PM in reply to: #3306611 |
Expert 1146 Chugiak, Alaska | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED zee744 - 2011-01-18 12:30 PM IceManScott - 2011-01-18 1:11 PM zee744 - 2011-01-18 11:28 AM What do you guys think of Starbucks new 31oz cup they are introducing? I was completely berated in COJ for thinking its ridiculous. I failed to mention that I wasn't referring to Starbucks alone, but rather the whole "super size me" mentality that America has become. Therefore someone thought I implied Starbucks was to blame for the obesity epidemic. I guess I won't tell you about the thermos cup I fill every morning with coffee (a pot) on the way to work for a $1 or how I fill it with green tea for an aa meeting at night. Big cups of coffee only spare me trips to refill. And before anyone goes there, all kinds of information is out there about how caffeine is not bad, even can be good for endurance sports. Different than the super sized fries, four double cheese burgers and a blizzard (large) I used to have for supper. Of course I had a diet coke with it and skipped breakfast 'cause I was trying to cut back. Hey, I drink 3-4 "cups" of coffee a day. I say "cups" because an acutal cup of coffee is 6oz, my 3-4 are approx 10-14oz each. I'm not taking issue with the idea of it for coffee/tea. My issue was that it was going to be a cup for all drinks, including fraps. I missed the part in the article saying it was for iced coffee, tea and lemonade. I saw the "larger cold beverages" part and thought "that would be terrible for fraps because they're sooooo flipping bad for you." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110116/bs_nm/us_starbucks Like I said the "ridiculous" wasn't referring to Starbucks releasing a bigger cup, but rather that they have to because people want it. That's a lot a frickin' frappuccino! |
| 2011-01-18 3:00 PM in reply to: #3306944 |
Extreme Veteran 650 Sacramento, California | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED Thanks for the responses on doing a shorter race before the Vineman. I think I'm probably not going to do one. I'll save my reg fee for something else. I already have a list of 4 or 5 "tri gear" things I want to pick up here in the next few weeks. Enrique |
| 2011-01-18 3:14 PM in reply to: #3256268 |
Champion 7558 Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED I've got another challenge for everyone too... Going back through bio's, there are a few people with some pretty significant weight loss successes yet only two of us have posted before/after pics. Collectively, it was well over 500 pounds GONE!! So...if you're losing or have lost weight...submit photographic evidence! You can post before/after, before/during, or during/after. Ask a friend or loved one to work the camera if you must. Edited by McFuzz 2011-01-18 3:15 PM |
| 2011-01-18 3:58 PM in reply to: #3306306 |
Elite 4583 | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED McFuzz - 2011-01-18 10:42 AM OK everyone! We're now half-way through January and reality has crashed hard into our dreams and aspirations. For us midwesterners, it's COLD outside, and for everyone else, there's just not much daylight and what is there is grey and thin (mostly). While things may not be going EXACTLY the way we'd planned, everyone should be able to point to one or two successes so far this year. I'll start by saying this (very large) mentor group has gelled nicely. Lots of questions, lots of advice, and lots of inspires being traded back and forth. It's kinda fun to pull up BT and see that I've got 6 new inspires. It's fun to see double-digit numbers in my daily inspires. I've managed to get tri-specific workouts in most days, and I'm confident that I'll hit my 25-hour goal for the month (without resorting to a 6-hour training ride on the 31st). I think my best success is that I haven't missed a day of training since I started Jan 1 (with exception of Thursday off days). Another success would be on the trainer. My first week I couldn't hit the mileage in time prescribed but now I'm surpassing it! I don't look at mileage until I'm done-I love seeing that I've gone further. |
| 2011-01-18 4:05 PM in reply to: #3306452 |
Elite 3494 Renton, Washington | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED zee744 - 2011-01-18 9:28 AM What do you guys think of Starbucks new 31oz cup they are introducing? I was completely berated in COJ for thinking its ridiculous. I failed to mention that I wasn't referring to Starbucks alone, but rather the whole "super size me" mentality that America has become. Therefore someone thought I implied Starbucks was to blame for the obesity epidemic.
Honestly it's ridiculous, who needs that much coffee anyway? Sometimes I find it difficult to finish a 16oz. |
| 2011-01-18 4:12 PM in reply to: #3256268 |
Elite 3494 Renton, Washington | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED I think I've managed to talk my husband into joining my gym. At $40 a month it's pretty inexpensive and I've also sat down and written out a list of events I'd like to do this summer. There's an indoor tri in March that I can do, I can volunteer for a few hours in the am and then do the race in the afternoon for 50% off. I also want to do the Seattle to Portland bike ride, it's over 2 days in July and the people that run it offer training rides every weekend rain or shine starting in March.
I don't have any before/after pics as I've gained quite a bit in last several months. Hopefully soon I will though :D |
| 2011-01-18 4:42 PM in reply to: #3306051 |
Veteran 323 Sandusky, OH | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED IceManScott - 2011-01-18 10:28 AM Laura, do you have a Computrainer or know someone who has? You can probably get the Real Course Video for the course. True, it is not the same as doing it live. But it does give you a feel for it. You can see the profile for one. For another, they are filmed during an actually event so you can get a sense of people around you, where the fuel stops are and I was even able to answer the burning question my wife had - where are the Porta Potties. don't have a computrainer  . I'm not totally nervous about what the course will look like. I"m more nervous for the elevation/hills, I'll be riding. The 3.5hr trainer ride was only 2.25 hr today and I was super bored and unmotivated. I hope that there is a break in the weather soon so "maybe" I could get outside. |
| 2011-01-18 5:02 PM in reply to: #3256268 |
Veteran 323 Sandusky, OH | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED Before working at the Cleveland Clinic I think I may have had Starbucks a handfull of times... Since starting working there and working nights I go down to get a tall bold at least once a shift. And now starbucks bold is pretty much the only coffee I can drink. I rarely get there specialty drinks but there coffee is BANANAS! The new addition of the "Trenta" size is however ridiculous. It just par for the course in the American society unfortunately. I never realized this until I lived overseas and saw that there wasn't even a fast food restaurant in the town I lived in. I had to drive 20min to go to a McDonalds. And there large sizes were our smalls.... Also if anyone is interested, the movie Supersize Me is a great documentary about a man who eats nothing but McDonalds for every meal. I've probably watched it 10 times at least. OK so far: Strengths- I accomplished my goal for my first race. Pretty much sayed on track w/ P90X and IM workouts. Haven't drank since Jan 2 (16 days!!). I will however be indulging in some adult beverages this weekend Weaknesses- Still not meeting my goal of 7 hours of sleep. As much as I don't want too I may have to cut out most of my P90X due to fatigue and extreme soreness. I don't want my cycling workouts to suffer. Fine tune my nutrition.... I may head back to the nutritionist. Other than that I have a couple of big workouts this week. Excited to start my master's swim class again and ski trip to Holiday Valley on Friday. Everyone keep up the good work |
| 2011-01-18 5:32 PM in reply to: #3306306 |
Master 7712 Orlando | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED McFuzz - 2011-01-18 10:42 AM OK everyone! We're now half-way through January and reality has crashed hard into our dreams and aspirations. For us midwesterners, it's COLD outside, and for everyone else, there's just not much daylight and what is there is grey and thin (mostly). While things may not be going EXACTLY the way we'd planned, everyone should be able to point to one or two successes so far this year. I'll start by saying this (very large) mentor group has gelled nicely. Lots of questions, lots of advice, and lots of inspires being traded back and forth. It's kinda fun to pull up BT and see that I've got 6 new inspires. It's fun to see double-digit numbers in my daily inspires. I've managed to get tri-specific workouts in most days, and I'm confident that I'll hit my 25-hour goal for the month (without resorting to a 6-hour training ride on the 31st). Good idea to take an accounting of where we are to-date. Strengths: Keeping my run volume up; as McFuzz pointed out to me, I'm just shy of 100 miles so far this month. In addition, the nagging injuries I've been dealing with for months seem to be mostly resolved. Weaknesses: My biking, or really, lack thereof. I've been focusing on my upcoming marathon, so I've not really been on the bike in months. I also continue to enjoy my weekend adult beverages! Speaking of beverages, I drink the largest coffee they have at whatever coffee shop i stop in each morning. However, i drink black decaf, so that doesn't really count.  Every so often I will treat myself to a nonfat latte at Starbucks. So, I don't have any issues with Starbucks offering really large sizes of its drinks. I believe the new version of sizes does not include the frappacinos (sp?), if it did I still would not have an issue with it being offered; afterall, they are in the business of making money. It is, I believe, a real commentary about our society that people drink these types of drinks without regard to the mega calories they contain. I notice that most people drinking them really should be having water or at least a diet soda or regular coffee. The fact that we have an obesity problem in this country is not surprising. That said, I'm not their mother, so if they want to do that to their body it is their business. Super size is the American way! I won't get into how everybody's bad health may affect my health insurance premiums! |
| 2011-01-18 5:39 PM in reply to: #3256268 |
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| 2011-01-18 6:15 PM in reply to: #3256268 |
Member 208 Longview, Texas | Subject: RE: McFuzz's Mentor Group 2011 - CLOSED Never drank a Starbucks coffee. Guess I'm boring(square) |
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