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 2009-12-07 8:52 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Champion  5522   Frisco, TX |  Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!!OK bike guru's I need help... I noticed a couple of odd things last night on my CT.. I was doing a 24 mile against the computer (btw - the Nintendo's grahics are really funny...) According to the CT - my mph was right at 17 and my avg watts was like 163 over about 1:24. Odd thing number one - my Cateye speed/cadence sensor was reading an average of about 0.5 mph faster than the CT - is that normal? Which one is right? Odd thing number two - I noticed that I could change my pedal rythm (felt more circular if that make sense) and maintain the same speed while dropping the watt output by about 20 watts. Is that pedalling efficiency or a CT quirk or something... |
| 2009-12-07 8:54 PM in reply to: #2547235 |
Master 1467   Small Town | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! TrevorC - 2009-12-07 9:42 PM Dec 5,2010..Las Vegas,Nevada....Anyone in for a marathon? Convinced the wife that we should run it. 2 birds 1 stone!!! This is on my radar as I've a friend who ran the half and had a rockin' time! |
| 2009-12-07 8:55 PM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 1467 Small Town | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! WHAT WHAT WHAT???? I just watched Dexter S4 Ep11 - NOOOOO!! I cannot wait until Sunday! |
| 2009-12-08 5:48 AM in reply to: #2547248 |
Champion 7163 Verona WI--Ironman Bike Country! | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! ashort33 - 2009-12-07 8:52 PM OK bike guru's I need help... I noticed a couple of odd things last night on my CT.. I was doing a 24 mile against the computer (btw - the Nintendo's grahics are really funny...) According to the CT - my mph was right at 17 and my avg watts was like 163 over about 1:24. Odd thing number one - my Cateye speed/cadence sensor was reading an average of about 0.5 mph faster than the CT - is that normal? Which one is right? Odd thing number two - I noticed that I could change my pedal rythm (felt more circular if that make sense) and maintain the same speed while dropping the watt output by about 20 watts. Is that pedalling efficiency or a CT quirk or something... Hey Andy How are you calibrating your CT? This is what I do: 1. Cold calibration: pedal to 25mph and check the number. It should be 3-3.5, enter that number using the key pad. Do it again. Enter the number using the key pad. If it is similar you can keep going. If it is lower than 3.0 or not similar, get off and tighten the tension. 2. Spin easy for 8 mins. Test the CT warm. It should be between 2.5-3.0. Enter that number in the key pad. Spin 2 more minutes if it is close to your earlier number, enter it in the key pad and you are good to go. If not, get off and loosen or tighten the tension and do it again. I found when I did that, my Garmin and CT were nearly identical. Either way, the CT is the gold standard to me. |
| 2009-12-08 8:22 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 2436 Apex, north carolina | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Reuben/John, that is the funniest thing I have ever seen. Reuben, if you have a digit version of that can you upload it to our group Yahoo photo page or email it to me? I want to print that and put it next to the photo of Steve riding in the rain. My two heros!!!!! |
| 2009-12-08 8:25 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! |
| 2009-12-08 8:25 AM in reply to: #2547437 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! SSMinnow - 2009-12-08 6:48 AM ashort33 - 2009-12-07 8:52 PM OK bike guru's I need help... I noticed a couple of odd things last night on my CT.. I was doing a 24 mile against the computer (btw - the Nintendo's grahics are really funny...) According to the CT - my mph was right at 17 and my avg watts was like 163 over about 1:24. Odd thing number one - my Cateye speed/cadence sensor was reading an average of about 0.5 mph faster than the CT - is that normal? Which one is right? Odd thing number two - I noticed that I could change my pedal rythm (felt more circular if that make sense) and maintain the same speed while dropping the watt output by about 20 watts. Is that pedalling efficiency or a CT quirk or something... Hey Andy How are you calibrating your CT? This is what I do: 1. Cold calibration: pedal to 25mph and check the number. It should be 3-3.5, enter that number using the key pad. Do it again. Enter the number using the key pad. If it is similar you can keep going. If it is lower than 3.0 or not similar, get off and tighten the tension. 2. Spin easy for 8 mins. Test the CT warm. It should be between 2.5-3.0. Enter that number in the key pad. Spin 2 more minutes if it is close to your earlier number, enter it in the key pad and you are good to go. If not, get off and loosen or tighten the tension and do it again. I found when I did that, my Garmin and CT were nearly identical. Either way, the CT is the gold standard to me. Just curious since so many have a CT now. What tires are you using? LOL, very lazy so I just use my race/ride wheel which has a PR3 on it and for whatever reason with those on my calibration # never goes above 2, always below. If I put another tire on it goes back above 2 where it should be. Caibration shouldn't effect your MPH comparison between the bike computer and the CT. Calibration should make your watts come more into line with an external power meter. If you are sure your bike computer is set up correctly, i.e. you entered the right number in the wheel circumference, your bike computer should be the gold standard. |
| 2009-12-08 9:10 AM in reply to: #2546978 |
New user 16 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! gotta love the military, they told me there are only 2 chiropractors seeing the whole air force, my tri care wont even let me get an off base referrel to see a doc somewhere else, im just going to take it easy on the training plan and not push to hard, it doesnt hurt it just is bothersome, especially during the bike rides, its starting to frustrate me to the point to where i dont feel like its worth training till the end of Jan....not going to happen, going to train through, have been through worse, ahhh just needed to vent...sorry |
| 2009-12-08 9:14 AM in reply to: #2547058 |
New user 16 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Hookem Horns, well dont know why we couldnt hold Nebraska's Suh from being a beast, but we pulled one out there, i think we will do alot better against Alabama, think its a pretty good match up, but we will see. Its going to be a high scoring game or a low scoring game, but gotta have faith in my horns....Texas Fight!!! |
| 2009-12-08 9:22 AM in reply to: #2547741 |
| Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! BEVO88 - 2009-12-08 10:10 AM gotta love the military, they told me there are only 2 chiropractors seeing the whole air force, my tri care wont even let me get an off base referrel to see a doc somewhere else, im just going to take it easy on the training plan and not push to hard, it doesnt hurt it just is bothersome, especially during the bike rides, its starting to frustrate me to the point to where i dont feel like its worth training till the end of Jan....not going to happen, going to train through, have been through worse, ahhh just needed to vent...sorry How about a sports med doc? Or PT? Anything would be better than waiting a month. Hate to see you make it worse and then be out longer. |
| 2009-12-08 9:25 AM in reply to: #2547768 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Havin'Fun - 2009-12-08 10:22 AM BEVO88 - 2009-12-08 10:10 AM gotta love the military, they told me there are only 2 chiropractors seeing the whole air force, my tri care wont even let me get an off base referrel to see a doc somewhere else, im just going to take it easy on the training plan and not push to hard, it doesnt hurt it just is bothersome, especially during the bike rides, its starting to frustrate me to the point to where i dont feel like its worth training till the end of Jan....not going to happen, going to train through, have been through worse, ahhh just needed to vent...sorry How about a sports med doc? Or PT? Anything would be better than waiting a month. Hate to see you make it worse and then be out longer. Yeah or even a sports massage person, they can work wonders sometimes. |
| 2009-12-08 9:28 AM in reply to: #2547437 |
Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! SSMinnow - 2009-12-08 5:48 AM ashort33 - 2009-12-07 8:52 PM OK bike guru's I need help... I noticed a couple of odd things last night on my CT.. I was doing a 24 mile against the computer (btw - the Nintendo's grahics are really funny...) According to the CT - my mph was right at 17 and my avg watts was like 163 over about 1:24. Odd thing number one - my Cateye speed/cadence sensor was reading an average of about 0.5 mph faster than the CT - is that normal? Which one is right? Odd thing number two - I noticed that I could change my pedal rythm (felt more circular if that make sense) and maintain the same speed while dropping the watt output by about 20 watts. Is that pedalling efficiency or a CT quirk or something... Hey Andy How are you calibrating your CT? This is what I do: 1. Cold calibration: pedal to 25mph and check the number. It should be 3-3.5, enter that number using the key pad. Do it again. Enter the number using the key pad. If it is similar you can keep going. If it is lower than 3.0 or not similar, get off and tighten the tension. 2. Spin easy for 8 mins. Test the CT warm. It should be between 2.5-3.0. Enter that number in the key pad. Spin 2 more minutes if it is close to your earlier number, enter it in the key pad and you are good to go. If not, get off and loosen or tighten the tension and do it again. I found when I did that, my Garmin and CT were nearly identical. Either way, the CT is the gold standard to me. Do you calibrate everytime? I haven't been. My bike stays in the CT, I just pump the tire back up to 120psi every time I get on. I would think the calibration would be the same... To answer Tony - I'm lazy too - however, I don't have different wheels, so the decision becomes somewhat easier - that and my tires are relatively inexpensive continentals... |
| 2009-12-08 9:28 AM in reply to: #2547768 |
Champion 5522 Frisco, TX | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Havin'Fun - 2009-12-08 9:22 AM BEVO88 - 2009-12-08 10:10 AM gotta love the military, they told me there are only 2 chiropractors seeing the whole air force, my tri care wont even let me get an off base referrel to see a doc somewhere else, im just going to take it easy on the training plan and not push to hard, it doesnt hurt it just is bothersome, especially during the bike rides, its starting to frustrate me to the point to where i dont feel like its worth training till the end of Jan....not going to happen, going to train through, have been through worse, ahhh just needed to vent...sorry How about a sports med doc? Or PT? Anything would be better than waiting a month. Hate to see you make it worse and then be out longer. X2 |
| 2009-12-08 9:31 AM in reply to: #2547790 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! ashort33 - 2009-12-08 10:28 AM SSMinnow - 2009-12-08 5:48 AM ashort33 - 2009-12-07 8:52 PM OK bike guru's I need help... I noticed a couple of odd things last night on my CT.. I was doing a 24 mile against the computer (btw - the Nintendo's grahics are really funny...) According to the CT - my mph was right at 17 and my avg watts was like 163 over about 1:24. Odd thing number one - my Cateye speed/cadence sensor was reading an average of about 0.5 mph faster than the CT - is that normal? Which one is right? Odd thing number two - I noticed that I could change my pedal rythm (felt more circular if that make sense) and maintain the same speed while dropping the watt output by about 20 watts. Is that pedalling efficiency or a CT quirk or something... Hey Andy How are you calibrating your CT? This is what I do: 1. Cold calibration: pedal to 25mph and check the number. It should be 3-3.5, enter that number using the key pad. Do it again. Enter the number using the key pad. If it is similar you can keep going. If it is lower than 3.0 or not similar, get off and tighten the tension. 2. Spin easy for 8 mins. Test the CT warm. It should be between 2.5-3.0. Enter that number in the key pad. Spin 2 more minutes if it is close to your earlier number, enter it in the key pad and you are good to go. If not, get off and loosen or tighten the tension and do it again. I found when I did that, my Garmin and CT were nearly identical. Either way, the CT is the gold standard to me. Do you calibrate everytime? I haven't been. My bike stays in the CT, I just pump the tire back up to 120psi every time I get on. I would think the calibration would be the same... To answer Tony - I'm lazy too - however, I don't have different wheels, so the decision becomes somewhat easier - that and my tires are relatively inexpensive continentals... yes you are supposed to calibrate every time. Really from what I read its supposed to be ridden for like 30 mins to get a true calibration, but who wants to do that. I use my power meter so I get the numbers from there, that being said my powertap and CT are pretty close even with my wacky calibration numbers on my PR3's |
| 2009-12-08 10:00 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Expert 801 Oklahoma City | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Hi - I don't know if I'm posting in the right place or not, but I came here in hopes of finding a mentor as I was told that December was the month to do so on this site. Is this group still open? I've notice most are "Closed" or "Full". I'm training for my first tri in June 2010 and could use a lot of help, support, info, and encouragement. kicitinok |
| 2009-12-08 10:06 AM in reply to: #2547873 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! kickitinok - 2009-12-08 11:00 AM Hi - I don't know if I'm posting in the right place or not, but I came here in hopes of finding a mentor as I was told that December was the month to do so on this site. Is this group still open? I've notice most are "Closed" or "Full". I'm training for my first tri in June 2010 and could use a lot of help, support, info, and encouragement. kicitinok Welcome to BT. Not sure when they are going to open up the new Mentor program, They are probably getting the new mentors set up now. We are still active from the last one and this thread will go by-by into the archives and a new one created. That being said the group is always open so come on in and just move over to the new thread with us when it gets started, make sure you post your info so we all know what kind of experience you have, goals, races, etc. |
| 2009-12-08 10:27 AM in reply to: #2547793 |
Master 2436 Apex, north carolina | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! ashort33 - 2009-12-08 10:28 AM Havin'Fun - 2009-12-08 9:22 AM BEVO88 - 2009-12-08 10:10 AM gotta love the military, they told me there are only 2 chiropractors seeing the whole air force, my tri care wont even let me get an off base referrel to see a doc somewhere else, im just going to take it easy on the training plan and not push to hard, it doesnt hurt it just is bothersome, especially during the bike rides, its starting to frustrate me to the point to where i dont feel like its worth training till the end of Jan....not going to happen, going to train through, have been through worse, ahhh just needed to vent...sorry How about a sports med doc? Or PT? Anything would be better than waiting a month. Hate to see you make it worse and then be out longer. X2 Eric, You might want to see how much a chiropractor is out of pocket. Mine only cost $45 and I would think that would be worth it if you are in pain. And by the way, be careful what you say about supporting your beloved Texas Longhorns. You are talking to a Kansas Jayhawker here. Not that we know how to play football or anything........... but I get to talk smack come basketball season.  |
| 2009-12-08 10:34 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Master 2005 Silverton, Oregon | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! John/Reuben- LOVE the poster!!! Kim- Great race report! So proud of all you've accomplished! We got back to The Dalles last night to frozen water lines in the RV. It's only 6 degrees here right now, brrrrr! I'd be warmer in Montana! We did get the water line thawed, so at least we have water. Now the power keeps shutting off for a few seconds every time the furnace kicks on. Ahhh, the joys of RV living.  |
| 2009-12-08 10:45 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Regular 310 Seymour, IN | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! John, glad you like the poster. I sure enjoyed making it. The dude at Staples had to think I was a freak since I couldn't stop giggling as it printed. And he knows me as we are the local Staples' 3rd largest client (I don't know why he felt compelled to tell/show me that during that same trip). Tracy, I do have the image. PM your address and I'll send to you for posting. Or someone repost the picture posting instructions and I'll do it. Texas better find some offense for Alabama - I'm predicting the Tide laying an a** kickin down. If the Nebraska's kicker keeps that last kick-off in bounds the Tide is playing Cincinnati. |
| 2009-12-08 10:54 AM in reply to: #2548017 |
New user 16 | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Reuben, we can play what ifs all day but that fact remains....a win is a win no matter how you look at it...lol....you know Texas will bring their A game against Bama. Texas Fight |
| 2009-12-08 11:06 AM in reply to: #2548041 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! So I picked this up the other day. should be here by friday. Will take a new bike pick when I get it installed.  |
| 2009-12-08 11:12 AM in reply to: #2548091 |
Master 1467 Small Town | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! dalessit - 2009-12-08 12:06 PM So I picked this up the other day. should be here by friday. Will take a new bike pick when I get it installed. Very cool. I rode a set of those (for a day) and really like the wheels. I've never rode a disk or aero wheels before, but I was surprised at how much you could feel the cross winds. I'm sure it'll look cool. Did you ever get that Transformers logo/vinyl? Don't make me buy it for you. |
| 2009-12-08 11:14 AM in reply to: #2548119 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! JHagerman - 2009-12-08 12:12 PM dalessit - 2009-12-08 12:06 PM So I picked this up the other day. should be here by friday. Will take a new bike pick when I get it installed. Very cool. I rode a set of those (for a day) and really like the wheels. I've never rode a disk or aero wheels before, but I was surprised at how much you could feel the cross winds. I'm sure it'll look cool. Did you ever get that Transformers logo/vinyl? Don't make me buy it for you. haha thought about that the other day, still haven't gotten it yet. Tri-spoke/disc(wheelcover) supposed to be the fastest set to ride with. I am heavy enough where I shouldn't move around too much I think. Edited by dalessit 2009-12-08 11:15 AM |
| 2009-12-08 11:16 AM in reply to: #2071255 |
Elite 3395 Raleigh | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! Tony: I sold one of those earlier this year. One thing to be acreful of is that not all pumps can fit over the valve stem in the opening that is provided. The shallower the pump head the better. Good luck. Doug |
| 2009-12-08 11:22 AM in reply to: #2548141 |
Master 1467 Small Town | Subject: RE: SWBKRUN Mentor Group-"Off Season?" What is that?!! DougRob - 2009-12-08 12:16 PM Tony: I sold one of those earlier this year. One thing to be acreful of is that not all pumps can fit over the valve stem in the opening that is provided. The shallower the pump head the better. Good luck. Doug Yeah I had the same issue - if your pump can do both presta and schrader, the head of the pump is too big; and the 'locked' position on my pump was for the lever to be Up. The air compressor that I had only went up to 115 psi. So an alternative option is to get the presta/schrader adaptor, put it on the valve stem and then use the floor pump's schrader hole. |
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