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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() looks like the athlete guide is up. I guess the race must be close...
The biggest thing to stand out to me is parking. Shows you can not park in the mall parking lot or your car could be towed. |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The Athlete Guide came out this morning – more reason to be nervous. Swim will likely be wetsuit optional but if you wear it you start in a second wave 10 min behind. I swam a 1.15 swim in Arizona with the wetsuit but am swimming a little better now. The benefits for wearing it are mental security (added buoyancy) and saved energy. The Cons are that I will have to swim through the slower non wetsuit swimmers which in itself slows me down and introduces more ‘stress’ to the swim. What gives? What would you do? I guess if only the fastest folks don’t wear the wetsuit then by wearing it I could be close to the front of the second wave. #undecided |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I swam the same 1:15 in OZ last year with a wetsuit and like you I'm swimming better now. All 4 of my IMs have been wetsuit swims, I'm looking forward to my first without. No suit for me an I expect to have a faster swim......fingers crossed. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Shermbelle - 2012-04-23 9:37 PM Reading on the website about the practice swim, must have wristbands and timing chips to be able to swim. No unregistered people will be allowed in the water. And they do give an address to an aquatic center in Magnolia that is open all day for swimming for $2. Locals, where is Magnolia, TX in relation to the Woodlands? From where you are staying it is less than 10 miles. FM1488 is the line between The Woodlands and Magnolia. Some people call Magnolia the back of the woodlands. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Shermbelle - 2012-04-23 9:37 PM Locals, where is Magnolia, TX in relation to the Woodlands? Magnolia is west of The Woodlands on FM 1488. I think the pool that you're referring to is at Magnolia High School right near the corner of FM 149 and FM 1488. The bike course goes right by it at around the 90-mile mark. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() In the athlete's guide it states that no compression is allowed during the swim but is allowed after. Is this new to the 2012 IMTX rules? I wore it last year on my calves so I could get in and out of transition quickly. This year I have brutal shinsplits that even hurt while swimming and was planning on wearing compression to help with this issue. I am already registered and plan on doing the race to the best of my ability with this injury, but wasnt really planning on dealing with it until the middle of the bike ride. How strict do you think they will be on this rule? If I do wear them do you think they will make me start in the wetsuit wave? Need some opinions to help my mental state at the moment. |
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New user ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi All, now the race is really close - athletes guide online, i received my flight tickets today - wohoaoa ![]() i think its great, that there is again a race pre swim on friday 18th. btw: as i will already fly in on 11th of may - is there any swimming hall/pool (if poss. 50m) somewhere close - i heard, that there is one in shennandoah ? - actually, thats where i am staying (shennandoah days inn) and another question: guess its no problem in texas to buy co2 cartidges in bike shops in texas, or ? cheers, erwin |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() pvollands - 2012-04-24 10:42 AM The Athlete Guide came out this morning – more reason to be nervous. Swim will likely be wetsuit optional but if you wear it you start in a second wave 10 min behind. I swam a 1.15 swim in Arizona with the wetsuit but am swimming a little better now. The benefits for wearing it are mental security (added buoyancy) and saved energy. The Cons are that I will have to swim through the slower non wetsuit swimmers which in itself slows me down and introduces more ‘stress’ to the swim. What gives? What would you do? I guess if only the fastest folks don’t wear the wetsuit then by wearing it I could be close to the front of the second wave. #undecided I personally hate cold water, so I want to wear a wetsuit, although I don't really care to swim in one. Although, the con is having to deal with all the slower swimmers who can't swim without a wetsuit.... like you mentioned above. If I don't wear a wetsuit, the con is I have to deal with all the aggressive swimmers who will gladly swim over me or hit me upside the head. Think about it. If someone is not in a wetsuit, they are either a super confidence swimmer (which I am, but I'm not out to maul anyone... but I'm pretty sure it will be mostly guys out to maul people!), or they are out to place in their AG to Kona (which means they will take anyone out to get ahead!). I don't want to deal with people like that! What my friend told me to do was this... wear the wetsuit and get in the front of the line. That way I'm ahead of the slower swimmers, and I don't have to deal with getting beaten up on the swim. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() True, but you'll find that no matter where you start you'll find some sort of contact. In LP a few years ago i started back and to the right near land and not 2 mins in the dude in front if me ate the biggest elbow i've seen outside of the UFC. Your big problem will be swimming so fast you'll catch up with the slow non-wetsuit swimmers and have to deal with "us" and our terrible form and bad sighting ![]() ![]() |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well I have no chance of KQ wetsuit or not...matter of fact I am just hoping to survive IMTX as I am so frigging undertrained. I think you guys are over thinking this. I've done IMFL 5 times. No matter what IM you do wetsuit or not you are going to get contact on the swim. Its not malicious its just part of IM. I'm a MOP swimmer with no chance of AG award or KQ but if its not wetsuit legal I am 99% sure I will not use a wetsuit. I do have a speedsuit I will use. Personally my mind set is where can I position myself best to take advantage of drafting NOT how do I position myself to avoid contact. Contact is inevitable. I don't mind getting swum over but I am terrible at passing people/swimming over people so I position myself pretty aggressively. My other thought is having done some pretty big OLYs with over 300 people in my age group really the IM is no worse. Yeah there are 2400 people in the water but there are only maybe 30 RIGHT around you. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() snowball - 2012-04-24 2:07 PMHi All,now the race is really close - athletes guide online, i received my flight tickets today - wohoaoa No problem with co2 and you will be by 2 shops and race site will have them.The place to swim in sahanndoah is the Conroe isd natatorium. It belongs to the school district, but outside use is allowable during certain times. TJ fry can best answer questions about the nat because one of his swim shops is inside it. I do know they do not always have it set up for long course. ![]() |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am a MOP swimmer at best. I have no intention of wearing a wetsuit. I did IM Louisville a few years back it was non-wetsuit and I actually enjoyed it. Warm water felt good (outside of all the disgustingness of the Ohio River) and I think I would take that over CDA and Arizona where the water was 54 and 59 respectively. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mikiefaith - 2012-04-24 2:06 PM In the athlete's guide it states that no compression is allowed during the swim but is allowed after. Is this new to the 2012 IMTX rules? I wore it last year on my calves so I could get in and out of transition quickly. This year I have brutal shinsplits that even hurt while swimming and was planning on wearing compression to help with this issue. I am already registered and plan on doing the race to the best of my ability with this injury, but wasnt really planning on dealing with it until the middle of the bike ride. How strict do you think they will be on this rule? If I do wear them do you think they will make me start in the wetsuit wave? Need some opinions to help my mental state at the moment.
Betting they will be strict on this one. At a recent IM event, they realized that people, lots of people, were cramming foam/noodles/inflatables inside the compression socks and sleeves. So thanks to the cheaters, everyone gets the privilege taken away. Pools - The CISD natatorium is great option, but you'll need to check the "wellness swim" schedule on their website. Lunchtime is pretty safe. 5 bucks to get in. Also, the city of Shenandoah is opening their neighborhood pool for all athletes that week (25 meter, outdoor) for anyone who wants to swim. Might be shuttles too. I can't remember. If you're staying in shenandoah you're hotel will know. I believe goodie bags are planned for all athletes as well.
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I will NOT wear a wetsuit. I dislike them. I swam 1:00 in Louisville without a wetsuit last year. You will not be able to qualify for Kona if you wear the optional wetsuit. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Socks - 2012-04-24 5:35 PM Well I have no chance of KQ wetsuit or not...matter of fact I am just hoping to survive IMTX as I am so frigging undertrained. I think you guys are over thinking this. I've done IMFL 5 times. No matter what IM you do wetsuit or not you are going to get contact on the swim. Its not malicious its just part of IM. I'm a MOP swimmer with no chance of AG award or KQ but if its not wetsuit legal I am 99% sure I will not use a wetsuit. I do have a speedsuit I will use. Personally my mind set is where can I position myself best to take advantage of drafting NOT how do I position myself to avoid contact. Contact is inevitable. I don't mind getting swum over but I am terrible at passing people/swimming over people so I position myself pretty aggressively. My other thought is having done some pretty big OLYs with over 300 people in my age group really the IM is no worse. Yeah there are 2400 people in the water but there are only maybe 30 RIGHT around you. When I did Kentucky in 2008, I didn't have contact with ONE PERSON. It was great. I don't mind a little contact, but what I do mind is people who are more than happy to be malicious in the water. And they ARE out there. They tend to be the ones who are top in their AG and going for Kona. Not the MOPers. MOPers will more than likely wear a wetsuit.... and while their might be contact, I guess I just think they might not want to beat the h@ll out of me to get ahead. ???? |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Curious to hear from those who did this race last year, but looking at the course it doesn't appear to one of the more violent swim courses. Only two "sharp" turns according to the map and being a single lap swim I would guess it would be much better than a 2 loop course like IMWI or CDA. Sure there will be your fair share of contact but I think thats just the nature of the beast. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Shermbelle - 2012-04-24 11:27 PM I think it was rough mainly because the wetsuit and non wetsuits swam together. So the slower swimmers with a wetsuit were now swimming up with the mop'ers creating a bubble, and that got tricky in the waterway. Take the wetsuits out, and take a few hundred people leaving 10 minutes back, and I would think it will be just fine.Curious to hear from those who did this race last year, but looking at the course it doesn't appear to one of the more violent swim courses. Only two "sharp" turns according to the map and being a single lap swim I would guess it would be much better than a 2 loop course like IMWI or CDA. Sure there will be your fair share of contact but I think thats just the nature of the beast. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tjfry - 2012-04-25 7:17 AM Shermbelle - 2012-04-24 11:27 PM I think it was rough mainly because the wetsuit and non wetsuits swam together. So the slower swimmers with a wetsuit were now swimming up with the mop'ers creating a bubble, and that got tricky in the waterway. Take the wetsuits out, and take a few hundred people leaving 10 minutes back, and I would think it will be just fine.Curious to hear from those who did this race last year, but looking at the course it doesn't appear to one of the more violent swim courses. Only two "sharp" turns according to the map and being a single lap swim I would guess it would be much better than a 2 loop course like IMWI or CDA. Sure there will be your fair share of contact but I think thats just the nature of the beast.
How many people do you think will take the 10 min late start and swim with a wetsuit? I wouldn't think it would be that high but from the sounds of the talk around here lately that number will be way higher than what I would have thought. I would think most would know going into this race that the water temp would be high and if it was a deal breaker would shy away from this race. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Shermbelle - 2012-04-25 6:21 AM tjfry - 2012-04-25 7:17 AM Shermbelle - 2012-04-24 11:27 PM I think it was rough mainly because the wetsuit and non wetsuits swam together. So the slower swimmers with a wetsuit were now swimming up with the mop'ers creating a bubble, and that got tricky in the waterway. Take the wetsuits out, and take a few hundred people leaving 10 minutes back, and I would think it will be just fine.Curious to hear from those who did this race last year, but looking at the course it doesn't appear to one of the more violent swim courses. Only two "sharp" turns according to the map and being a single lap swim I would guess it would be much better than a 2 loop course like IMWI or CDA. Sure there will be your fair share of contact but I think thats just the nature of the beast.
How many people do you think will take the 10 min late start and swim with a wetsuit? I wouldn't think it would be that high but from the sounds of the talk around here lately that number will be way higher than what I would have thought. I would think most would know going into this race that the water temp would be high and if it was a deal breaker would shy away from this race. Hum, maybe so. Maybe people who can't swim without a wetsuit have avoided this race... like they do Kentucky for that very reason. Interesting thought, and probably true. Maybe on race day I'll make a last minute game call. Look at the numbers... and go with the smaller crowd. Non-wetsuit, I'll seat myself at the back. Wetsuit, I'll seat myself at the front. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() It will be scary, but i am going to try to start toward the front. ![]() |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Taper starts Monday! :-) |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tjfry - 2012-04-24 7:24 PM mikiefaith - 2012-04-24 2:06 PM In the athlete's guide it states that no compression is allowed during the swim but is allowed after. Is this new to the 2012 IMTX rules? I wore it last year on my calves so I could get in and out of transition quickly. This year I have brutal shinsplits that even hurt while swimming and was planning on wearing compression to help with this issue. I am already registered and plan on doing the race to the best of my ability with this injury, but wasnt really planning on dealing with it until the middle of the bike ride. How strict do you think they will be on this rule? If I do wear them do you think they will make me start in the wetsuit wave? Need some opinions to help my mental state at the moment.
Betting they will be strict on this one. At a recent IM event, they realized that people, lots of people, were cramming foam/noodles/inflatables inside the compression socks and sleeves. So thanks to the cheaters, everyone gets the privilege taken away. TJ Thanks for the info. I will be out there this Saturday for the open water swim and test the legs without the sleeves. I'd hate to start with the wetsuit folks and take the 10 minute late start as a middle of pack swimmer because of this need (at the moment) and not be wearing a suit. Man, I just can't imagine wearing a suit in the heat! Who wore one last year and how hot did it get? How did it affect you later on in the race? |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() How do you know which swim skins or speedsuits are legal? I don't see anything about that in the athlete guide. Is it on the Iroman website? Thanks |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KSH - 2012-04-24 10:04 PM yes but KY is atime trial start.Socks - 2012-04-24 5:35 PM Well I have no chance of KQ wetsuit or not...matter of fact I am just hoping to survive IMTX as I am so frigging undertrained. I think you guys are over thinking this. I've done IMFL 5 times. No matter what IM you do wetsuit or not you are going to get contact on the swim. Its not malicious its just part of IM. I'm a MOP swimmer with no chance of AG award or KQ but if its not wetsuit legal I am 99% sure I will not use a wetsuit. I do have a speedsuit I will use. Personally my mind set is where can I position myself best to take advantage of drafting NOT how do I position myself to avoid contact. Contact is inevitable. I don't mind getting swum over but I am terrible at passing people/swimming over people so I position myself pretty aggressively. My other thought is having done some pretty big OLYs with over 300 people in my age group really the IM is no worse. Yeah there are 2400 people in the water but there are only maybe 30 RIGHT around you. When I did Kentucky in 2008, I didn't have contact with ONE PERSON. It was great. I don't mind a little contact, but what I do mind is people who are more than happy to be malicious in the water. And they ARE out there. They tend to be the ones who are top in their AG and going for Kona. Not the MOPers. MOPers will more than likely wear a wetsuit.... and while their might be contact, I guess I just think they might not want to beat the h@ll out of me to get ahead. ???? |
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