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2012-10-11 10:37 AM in reply to: #4449806 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread mandsberry - 2012-10-11 8:09 AM 101abp40 - 2012-10-11 10:27 AM I just did a quick dump of the participant file. While not exact, I count 515 M40-44 participants, which is a lot more than I anticipated, not that it matters. wannabefaster - 2012-10-11 7:12 AM Kido - 2012-10-10 6:15 PM 1885 in M 40-44. Who knows? Your number is over 400 higher than mine. Are there 400 + men in the 40-44 age group? If so, that is huge!mndiver - 2012-10-10 2:48 PM I believe numbers are based on age and gender for age groupers. Male and female pros first followed by foundation spots followed by either all female or all the males. Youngest females this year are lowest numbers and oldest males are highest. Makes me wonder how I almost hit 2,000 But I'm 40-44... Doesn't mean anything, but seems odd. Someone told me there are about 430 in the M40-44 AG. which is typically one of the largest AGs, at least in AZ triathlons. Not sure about the race bib numbers - I was 2005 last year and 2128 this year, and from my time last year it seems odd I dropped that far - but I do not know their criteria for assigning numbers. When it all comes down to it, it really is just a number......... There are M45-49 who are going to smoke my time that will have a higher number than me, so it is not based on overall expected finish time. Bib numbers for our age group are 159-480, which I believe are the charity foundation slots. Second group runs from 1853-2316. Note, there is one participant, #2960 which is in a final grouping of participants. My guess is he is one of the Carmichal Training Group participants. Also interesting... two guys in the M75-79 age group. Hope I'm able to particpate in my 70's as well.
It's always the biggest division... I'm guessing Mike is going to make the joke again along the lines of "if you are trying to qualify for Kona in the Men's 40-44, well, good luck"... I'm curious if there is a big drop off after 44, or maybe 49. Cuz honestly, this may be my last rodeo. Getting too old for this and I still have a couple more years in this AG. |
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2012-10-11 10:37 AM in reply to: #4449587 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread blueyedbikergirl - 2012-10-11 6:32 AM #663! (Even WTC knows that I'm only 2/3 evil) One more threesome, and you will get all the way there... |
2012-10-11 11:14 AM in reply to: #4449789 |
Extreme Veteran 648 Scottsdale | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Climbinggonzo - 2012-10-11 10:02 AM Now that we have our numbers, has anyone considered using Tri Tats instead of the onsite marker/sharpee?
I have been using Tri-Tats a few races this year, and they are pretty cool. I intend on using them at IM AZ as well, since I bought the kit and have them available (and because they look really cool). Just be careful putting them on and make sure to leave them alone for awhile after you remove the wet napkin. The first time I applied them I tried to dry off my arm a bit and ended up peeling some of the tat off. Now I just leave them be, do an arm or leg every 15 minutes or so (so I do not have to walk around like Frankenstein), and they turn out solid. Some cracking is bound to occur (especially on the calves) as your skin stretches while you walk/run, but they still look great. |
2012-10-11 11:53 AM in reply to: #4447599 |
Veteran 416 Denver | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread croyston - 2012-10-10 5:47 AM Zero2Athlete - 2012-10-09 5:53 PM By the way, do we know anything about the pro lineup (without browsing all 400 pages of participant list)? I imagine most of the greats will still be chillaxin after Kona...just wanna know so I can offer anyone with a single digit bib # personalized words of encouragement as I pass them on the run... I searched the list last night for MPRO / WPRO and the bigger names that I remember are:
* Andy Potts has the race listed on his website, but is not in the athlete guide
I saw Matty "Boom Boom" Reed's name on the list |
2012-10-11 12:27 PM in reply to: #4449865 |
Expert 1083 The Woodlands, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Kido - 2012-10-11 10:32 AM Me too, it's the only shot at KQ I have... I figure if you just who up and cross the finish line, you get a spot. Actually, I know a lady from here who is going to Kona that way. She is in her 70s and was the only one in her AG from FL last year so she got the spot |
2012-10-11 12:58 PM in reply to: #4449857 |
Veteran 341 Orangevale, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread sheesleeva - 2012-10-11 8:30 AM [ awesome that the big names remember include more women than men, but there are a lot more big name men there: Craig Alexander (Crowie), Michael Raelert, Chris McCormick (Macca) ... are all amongst the top contenders -- my bet is in Jordan Rapp. Women's top contenders - Mirinda Carfrae (Rinny), Caroline Steffen and Mary Beth Ellis are the favorites. Rinny was second only to Chrissie last year. My heart is with Mary Beth Ellis, but my belief is that Rinny will take it.
We were referring to the Pros at IMAZ, not Kona. I think the race at Kona is going to be very exciting, too many stellar athletes with strong chances of winning.
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2012-10-11 1:03 PM in reply to: #3911896 |
Extreme Veteran 557 Woodland Hills, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread There's a race in Kona this year? Too busy training to notice. Can I get in bed yet or should I eat more? |
2012-10-11 1:51 PM in reply to: #4450197 |
Veteran 379 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread croyston - 2012-10-11 12:58 PM sheesleeva - 2012-10-11 8:30 AM [ awesome that the big names remember include more women than men, but there are a lot more big name men there: Craig Alexander (Crowie), Michael Raelert, Chris McCormick (Macca) ... are all amongst the top contenders -- my bet is in Jordan Rapp. Women's top contenders - Mirinda Carfrae (Rinny), Caroline Steffen and Mary Beth Ellis are the favorites. Rinny was second only to Chrissie last year. My heart is with Mary Beth Ellis, but my belief is that Rinny will take it.
We were referring to the Pros at IMAZ, not Kona. I think the race at Kona is going to be very exciting, too many stellar athletes with strong chances of winning.
yeah, i realized that after I posted -- clearly i have Kona on my mind as a way to block on my training aches. Still, you heard it here first: Jordan Rapp and Rinny! |
2012-10-11 3:07 PM in reply to: #4449789 |
Veteran 930 Morgan Hill, California | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Climbinggonzo - 2012-10-11 8:02 AM Now that we have our numbers, has anyone considered using Tri Tats instead of the onsite marker/sharpee? No, I haven't. I don't see the reason for paying for a product to replace the free sharpie. Plus, getting body marked is part of the whole experience for me. I personally don't have any need to change that part. |
2012-10-11 4:19 PM in reply to: #4450425 |
Expert 1544 Alexandria, MN | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread kmac1346 - 2012-10-11 3:07 PM Climbinggonzo - 2012-10-11 8:02 AM Now that we have our numbers, has anyone considered using Tri Tats instead of the onsite marker/sharpee? No, I haven't. I don't see the reason for paying for a product to replace the free sharpie. Plus, getting body marked is part of the whole experience for me. I personally don't have any need to change that part. They have a 140.6 "kit" that has everything you need, you just give them your race number, and it's only $9.50 I think. The time I spent body marking in the morning can be time spent in line for a bike pump instead! |
2012-10-11 5:26 PM in reply to: #3911896 |
Extreme Veteran 557 Woodland Hills, CA | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Soma! Soma! Soma! Let's race! Looks like sun and warmth. Water temp is at 77, single degree below wetsuit legal. I did some research and the bike seems to have a lot of turning. Anyone done Soma before? |
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2012-10-12 6:20 AM in reply to: #3911896 |
Veteran 784 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Question...its hit that time of year that at 5am its too dark to ride and when I get off of work its too dark to ride, I managed to leave early from work once week to get in a thursday ride but I can't on Weds which calls for a short brick(1 hour/30min)....i have been doing the bike portion on the trainer and the run outside....but it just doesnt feel the same.....those using fink any suggestion, am I still getting the benefit? Where I live is not the safest place to ride at night, so I try and stay away from it.... |
2012-10-12 7:08 AM in reply to: #4451019 |
Extreme Veteran 601 Cold Spring, NY | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Jorgito22 - 2012-10-12 7:20 AM Question...its hit that time of year that at 5am its too dark to ride and when I get off of work its too dark to ride, I managed to leave early from work once week to get in a thursday ride but I can't on Weds which calls for a short brick(1 hour/30min)....i have been doing the bike portion on the trainer and the run outside....but it just doesnt feel the same.....those using fink any suggestion, am I still getting the benefit? Where I live is not the safest place to ride at night, so I try and stay away from it.... I do all my weekday rides on the trainer; and have recently started doing the first half of long rides inside before it is light out. For AZ, i think the trainer is a great way to work the fink plan(except for the monotony). Im a newbie but AZ looks nothing like my hilly back yard, so the trainer is good practice putting out a steady effort without spikes. And if that doesnt compel you, it beats wrecking in the dark one month out... |
2012-10-12 7:28 AM in reply to: #4451044 |
Regular 138 Pittsburgh | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread I agree that the trainer is a great way to prep for arizona. I live in Pittsburgh where I get about 6000-7000 feet of climbing for every century around here. The trainer is pretty much the only place I can get a flat ride in and spend time in my aero bars. I've used it all season for my speedwork rides and anything 1 hour or shorter. I've also been using it for the first hour or 2 of my weekend rides before it gets light and a little warmer. Just make sure that you are pushing a hard enough gear to get your HR up and don't turn it into an easy spin. It's a good time to focus on cadence too since there is no coasting on the trainer! If you really can't bear to be on it for that long I've been told you can use a 1.2 factor so 3 hours on the road= 2.5 hours on the trainer. |
2012-10-12 7:38 AM in reply to: #4449789 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Climbinggonzo - 2012-10-11 10:02 AM Now that we have our numbers, has anyone considered using Tri Tats instead of the onsite marker/sharpee? I have managed to avoid body marking at most events. Just show up wearing calf sleeves and one of those tri-specific long sleeve skin cooler shirts and tell them you're wearing that getup all day. They don't have anywhere to write the number so they just leave you be. It hasn't been 100% foolproof but it works almost every time. I have had too many trisuits or tops ruined by marker bleed so that's why I avoid body marking. |
2012-10-12 8:32 AM in reply to: #4451019 |
Expert 885 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Jorgito22 - 2012-10-12 6:20 AM Question...its hit that time of year that at 5am its too dark to ride and when I get off of work its too dark to ride, I managed to leave early from work once week to get in a thursday ride but I can't on Weds which calls for a short brick(1 hour/30min)....i have been doing the bike portion on the trainer and the run outside....but it just doesnt feel the same.....those using fink any suggestion, am I still getting the benefit? Where I live is not the safest place to ride at night, so I try and stay away from it....
We are starting to lose daylight hours as well, so I'll be hitting the trainer soon for the midweek rides. I had to use it last night due to pouring rain when I got home. Like others have said, as long as it's not just an easy spin, the trainer is perfectly fine to use. |
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2012-10-12 8:43 AM in reply to: #4450425 |
Veteran 379 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread kmac1346 - 2012-10-11 3:07 PM Climbinggonzo - 2012-10-11 8:02 AM Now that we have our numbers, has anyone considered using Tri Tats instead of the onsite marker/sharpee? No, I haven't. I don't see the reason for paying for a product to replace the free sharpie. Plus, getting body marked is part of the whole experience for me. I personally don't have any need to change that part.
I too am an old schooler and find the on-site sharpie body marking is part of the prep-routine. ...plus, I always bring my own sharpie as well, just in case the port-a-pot lines are super long and i'm feeling rushed.
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2012-10-12 8:48 AM in reply to: #4451019 |
Veteran 379 | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Jorgito22 - 2012-10-12 6:20 AM Question...its hit that time of year that at 5am its too dark to ride and when I get off of work its too dark to ride, I managed to leave early from work once week to get in a thursday ride but I can't on Weds which calls for a short brick(1 hour/30min)....i have been doing the bike portion on the trainer and the run outside....but it just doesnt feel the same.....those using fink any suggestion, am I still getting the benefit? Where I live is not the safest place to ride at night, so I try and stay away from it....
one of my friends does the vast majority of her IM training on the trainier and she will be doing her 7th IM in a couple weeks. .....and she lives in the south where it's flat and hot. She loves it and it does wonders for her. --- I myself have not yet been able to develop any love for the trainer, but I have also had several crashes from knuckleheads that don't know what a stop sign is. My head votes for the trainer, even if my heart does not |
2012-10-12 9:42 AM in reply to: #3911896 |
Extreme Veteran 648 Scottsdale | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread The bummer thing here in Phoenix is this: just when the weather is getting to the point that riding outside is nice, the daylight hours are shorter and you cannot get as many miles in. If only I did not have to work. HA HA |
2012-10-12 10:41 AM in reply to: #4451057 |
Extreme Veteran 694 Highlands Ranch, Colorado | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread sbux87 - 2012-10-12 6:28 AM I agree that the trainer is a great way to prep for arizona. I live in Pittsburgh where I get about 6000-7000 feet of climbing for every century around here. The trainer is pretty much the only place I can get a flat ride in and spend time in my aero bars. I've used it all season for my speedwork rides and anything 1 hour or shorter. I've also been using it for the first hour or 2 of my weekend rides before it gets light and a little warmer. Just make sure that you are pushing a hard enough gear to get your HR up and don't turn it into an easy spin. It's a good time to focus on cadence too since there is no coasting on the trainer! If you really can't bear to be on it for that long I've been told you can use a 1.2 factor so 3 hours on the road= 2.5 hours on the trainer. I thought it was the other way around: 2 hours on the trainer is equivalent to about 2.5 on the road. |
2012-10-12 11:19 AM in reply to: #4451044 |
Regular 82 United States | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread bdenehy - 2012-10-12 7:08 AM Jorgito22 - 2012-10-12 7:20 AM Question...its hit that time of year that at 5am its too dark to ride and when I get off of work its too dark to ride, I managed to leave early from work once week to get in a thursday ride but I can't on Weds which calls for a short brick(1 hour/30min)....i have been doing the bike portion on the trainer and the run outside....but it just doesnt feel the same.....those using fink any suggestion, am I still getting the benefit? Where I live is not the safest place to ride at night, so I try and stay away from it.... I do all my weekday rides on the trainer; and have recently started doing the first half of long rides inside before it is light out. For AZ, i think the trainer is a great way to work the fink plan(except for the monotony). Im a newbie but AZ looks nothing like my hilly back yard, so the trainer is good practice putting out a steady effort without spikes. And if that doesnt compel you, it beats wrecking in the dark one month out... I agree. I am done riding in the dark on week days before work as well. Might try to get a couple of these long Saturday rides started earlier indoors too...good idea. |
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2012-10-12 1:30 PM in reply to: #3911896 |
Champion 34263 Chicago | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread It's dark when I finish my rides here about 7 or 8pm. Not that big a deal as we have the lakefront trail that goes 10 miles in either direction. We just ride up and down that sucker for hours on end. And now that the tourists are mostly gone, it's divine. |
2012-10-13 6:04 PM in reply to: #3911896 |
Extreme Veteran 694 Highlands Ranch, Colorado | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread Ran a hilly 18 in 2:36 today in the cold and rain. Good confidence builder. However now I'm not sure how much farther I want to go on the run. I'd love to hit 20 miles (~3 hours) but I'm worried about injuries. My knees were a bit stiff by the end of today's run and I've been dealing with this since I signed up for Arizona. Not sure if it's worth the risk. Is 18 and 2:36 enough? |
2012-10-13 6:51 PM in reply to: #4452766 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread FF Stock - 2012-10-13 6:04 PM Ran a hilly 18 in 2:36 today in the cold and rain. Good confidence builder. However now I'm not sure how much farther I want to go on the run. I'd love to hit 20 miles (~3 hours) but I'm worried about injuries. My knees were a bit stiff by the end of today's run and I've been dealing with this since I signed up for Arizona. Not sure if it's worth the risk. Is 18 and 2:36 enough? You're good. Don't worry about it. |
2012-10-13 6:56 PM in reply to: #4451141 |
Extreme Veteran 1986 Cypress, TX | Subject: RE: Ironman Arizona : Official Thread sheesleeva - 2012-10-12 8:48 AM one of my friends does the vast majority of her IM training on the trainier and she will be doing her 7th IM in a couple weeks. .....and she lives in the south where it's flat and hot. She loves it and it does wonders for her. --- I myself have not yet been able to develop any love for the trainer, but I have also had several crashes from knuckleheads that don't know what a stop sign is. My head votes for the trainer, even if my heart does not I mix it up. I find a trainer ride to be a better workout than going outside for a ride because you're never coasting and you can dial in your watts, RPE, HR, cadence (whatever metrics you use) much easier. It's also a mental jiu-jitsu challenge to ride 5 hours on a trainer. If you can do that, an IM ride will be easy as pie. Plus you can watch TV. Obviously, the trainer hurts more. My "under carriage" isn't too pleased with me after a long trainer ride. |
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