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2011-05-19 1:35 PM
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Had a pretty horrible run this morning.  Probably a combination of poor sleep the past couple nights and minor dehydration.  Will likely take tomorrow off to help my body reset.

As far as bike pics, I'll get some up a little later. 



2011-05-19 1:38 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2011-05-19 8:33 AM

If anyone is looking for a SRAM red compact crank set with a BB30 bottom bracket, I have one lying around (we pulled the crank to instal the Quarq).

Wish I knew this about 2 months ago...LOL.  Had the standard crank on my CAAD 10 replaced with a compact.  Went with the same crank though...Force.

2011-05-19 3:59 PM
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Here is my bike.  QR CD01.  I don't have wheels...yet.  Sorry for the stupid trainer picture...it really deserves better.
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2011-05-19 6:48 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2011-05-19 9:37 AM

2 hour tempo ride on the trainer this morning (its still raining outside, we're going on 5 straight days) and a 70 minute run tonight with 6 x 1/2 mile repeats tonight.  Per the coach, the goal is to start the repeats at 3:15 (6:30 min/mile pace) and work them down to 3:00 (6:00 min/mile pace).  I haven't done very much fast running so it will be interesting (and a big confidence builder) if I can pull this workout off well.

I have a question for everybody.  I eat pretty strictly according to the "core diet," which is essentially paleo for atheltes with some dairy and legumes.  Because of this I tend to eat a lot of the same things over and over again.  Today is a pretty typical (and often repeated) day for me:

M1 (pre-bike) -- 3 pancakes & strawberries
M2 (bike) -- 2 bottled Ironman Perform
M3 (post-bike) -- 2 scoops Endurox
M4 (10 a.m.) -- Yogurt, carrots & strawberries
M5 (1 p.m.) -- Salmon, asparagus & apple
M6 (4 p.m.) -- Turkey burger, broccoli & 6 prunes
M7 (pre-run) -- Power bar
M8 (run) -- 1 bottle Ironman Perform
M9 (post-run) -- 2 scoops Endurox
M10 (9 p.m.) -- 2 Eggs & Spinach

I was wondering what everyone else eats on a daily basis while training.  I'm really curious if I can discover some new things to add to the rotation.

Do I really have to write down what I eat? My diet fluctuates throughout the month, some weeks are better than others. Breakfast: 1 egg & 1 egg white scrambled on toast or 1 piece of peanut butter toast, piece of fruit, cup of coffee.

Next breakfast 2 hours later because I'm so hungry I could eat my own hand - banana, kashi granola bar or some almonds, or trail mix or a banana with yogurt.

Lunch: I've been eating a lot of chicken lately. I'm really kind of tired of it. I'll have chicken in a salad with whatever veggies I have at home but I like the bad stuff in my salad too - croutons and cheese . I also really like leftovers from dinner if there are any.

Snack: nuts or cheese and crackers

Dinner: Hubby is a meat and potatoes kind of guy. We'll have roast beef, mashed potatoes, chicken and baked potatoes, meatloaf, spaghetti and meatballs, or chicken pot pie with whatever veggies we have at home.

Desert - piece of chocolate with peanut butter or a small bowl of cereal.

I eat frequently but it doesn't take much for me to feel really full so then I'm back looking for something to eat again in a couple of hours. Also, if there are chips anywhere near me I will eat them. I try not to buy them but sometimes I cave. Then we usually get pizza or go out for lunch once a week.



2011-05-19 6:53 PM
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trigal38 - 2011-05-19 5:48 PM
Do I really have to write down what I eat?


No, and in general I don't think keeping draconian tabs on your daily caloric intake is very healthy, pardon the pun. We all know what's good and what's bad. Eat the good and don't overdo it. Diets are like Triathlon coaches sometimes, they make everything real complicated so we feel compelled to use them. Truth be told, it's all pretty simple.
2011-05-19 6:54 PM
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You all have some really nice bikes! I just bought my Felt in January. No race wheels or anything like that. I just have to work harder on the engine I guess .

2011-05-19 6:55 PM
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Fred Doucette - 2011-05-19 5:45 PM

OK I posted the "Is it better to do an olympic or a HIM as prep for an IM" in ironman talk section.


I'm going to post that I eat bee larvae before an Ironman. I don't give a sh@t.
2011-05-19 6:55 PM
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My diet is pretty bad.  I try and stay away from the really bad foods like deep fried stuff, but I would say my diet is a lot of not so good food.

But it's part of why I train...so I can eat pretty much guilt free.

2011-05-19 6:57 PM
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What? This little old thing?

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tri808 - 2011-05-19 5:55 PM
But it's part of why I train...so I can eat pretty much guilt free.



Opps! That's where I will take exception. It very well may be fine for you, but depending on your age, metabolism, and a million other variables, a lot of triathletes who have that mentality will find it very challenging to loose weight, assuming tat is a goal, with training. Training for an Ironman does NOT mean you can eat whatever you want.
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tri808 - 2011-05-19 5:55 PM But it's part of why I train...so I can eat pretty much guilt free.
Opps! That's where I will take exception. It very well may be fine for you, but depending on your age, metabolism, and a million other variables, a lot of triathletes who have that mentality will find it very challenging to loose weight, assuming tat is a goal, with training. Training for an Ironman does NOT mean you can eat whatever you want.

 

Hah, this is where today's two topics converge for me.  I am struggling to lose the last 5-10 lbs I want to lose.  I also would love to get a nice, light set of race wheels.  Need to lose the weight before I go dropping $$$ on, what, a pound?  I know there are other reasons for a nice wheelset, but, like Dina said...working on the engine is probably more important.

It's just that training makes me hungry like I am pregnant (which was, for me, kind of like, eyes roll in the back of my head, and the next thing I know, I'm standing in the pantry, shoving cheez its down my throat).  I am working on it, but I've had a hard time finding balance between fueling training and losing weight.



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Well, to be honest, the two are mutually exclusive in some cases depending on what your goals are. I was submit that it is not possible to trai. To be the fastest triathlete you Canberra while trying to loose weight. They require very different kinds of "work" and discipline. My advice would be to use diet and exercise to achieve a weight you are comfortable with then sharpen the pencil. You can't really do both if you are actually too heavy, which is a whole different kettle if fish....
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So if I want to be the fastest triathlete I canberra I should arrive at day one of training at race weight?
2011-05-19 8:02 PM
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bryancd - 2011-05-19 1:59 PM
tri808 - 2011-05-19 5:55 PM But it's part of why I train...so I can eat pretty much guilt free.
Opps! That's where I will take exception. It very well may be fine for you, but depending on your age, metabolism, and a million other variables, a lot of triathletes who have that mentality will find it very challenging to loose weight, assuming tat is a goal, with training. Training for an Ironman does NOT mean you can eat whatever you want.

Definately and individual thing.  I'm young (about to turn 30), have a high metabolism (need about 3k calories per day to maintain weight), am not actively trying to lose weight, and am training for the fun of the sport.

For someone older, lower metabolism, needing to shed 10 pounds to try and qualify for Kona...yes...diet is going to be a huge factor.  That's just not me though.

ETA: Like Fred mentioned...I do also eat a lot of good stuff.  My coworkers comment on my food choices during lunch as I normally try to pick somewhat healthy options.  But I'm also the one who never turns down a piece of cake, or is raiding the snack bin for cookies.



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quincyf - 2011-05-19 8:51 PM So if I want to be the fastest triathlete I canberra I should arrive at day one of training at race weight?

My understanding (and Bryan correct me if I'm wrong) to to arrive at day one of training a few pounds above racing weight so that you have some fat to burn through during your heavy build period.

My problem is I'm 10-ish pounds above race weight and balancing performance with trying to get to race weight (which I know is not ideal).

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quincyf - 2011-05-19 6:51 PM

So if I want to be the fastest triathlete I canberra I should arrive at day one of training at race weight?


Of course not. Our bodies have no idea when our races are, all our bodies know I input/output.


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quincyf - 2011-05-19 8:51 PM So if I want to be the fastest triathlete I canberra I should arrive at day one of training at race weight?

My understanding (and Bryan correct me if I'm wrong) to to arrive at day one of training a few pounds above racing weight so that you have some fat to burn through during your heavy build period.

My problem is I'm 10-ish pounds above race weight and balancing performance with trying to get to race weight (which I know is not ideal).



Depends on what you are training for. Also depends on what your training over the course of a year is like. In general, as you pick up volume, you should loose some weight, if you don't you diet is not optimal.
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So will your diet make you faster?  Seriously!  My weight doesn't change, I'm 152-154 lbs at 6' tall day in day out, little food, lot of food, good food, bad food, etc.  I feel I eat fairly healthy but also don't worry about indulging the sweet tooth too much.  Race week I try to eat a little cleaner, but I've gotten in the habit of a beer before race day - calms me a bit.
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GoFaster - 2011-05-19 10:31 PM So will your diet make you faster?  Seriously!  My weight doesn't change, I'm 152-154 lbs at 6' tall day in day out, little food, lot of food, good food, bad food, etc.  I feel I eat fairly healthy but also don't worry about indulging the sweet tooth too much.  Race week I try to eat a little cleaner, but I've gotten in the habit of a beer before race day - calms me a bit.

I don't think your diet makes you "faster," I think your diet plays a huge role in recovery and if you recover better you're going to see gains and get faster.  Its and indirect effect, but its important. 

I also think your diet can directly make you slower by causing weight gain, lethargy and inflammation. 

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