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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by MadMathemagician Your posts routinely slay me. This one is no exception. Hilarious. Originally posted by switch Hey Gang, I have a couple of questions. 1) How do you put the list of Manatees with the links on the front of your training log. Many of you have this, and I would like to follow suit. 2) I would love to know what everyone's plans/goals are going into the off-season. Some people have goals listed in the from part of their logs, but it would be nice to hear what people are reaching towards these days, if you don't mind sharing :) There is no off season for me. It is the combination of working out ~15 per week and eating properly that keep me free from having to take pharmaceuticals in general and psychotropics in particular. I no longer have to take meds for hypertension. Also the PTSD demons are keep at bay. I'm 55 years old. This life style lets me live my life as if I were a younger man. It's very satisfying that I can once again do the things that I once did in my teens, twenties, and thirties. It might take a bit longer to recovery from certain excesses but that is inconsequential. I see maintaining this life style for the duration, whatever that may be. It also let's me keep up with my younger girl friend, without a need for little blue pills. Bless all young women who have daddy issues. 15 hours a week all year long is pretty intense. I won't nag you for a goal, per se, as it sounds like you're exactly where you want to be. We should all be so lucky :) |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JJ- Originally posted by switch Right now I am still with my coach who I had some difficulties with leading up to Galveston but has since put me in the best shape of my life so well see how Austin goes. Originally posted by JJ- Originally posted by switch #1 - I just look at Jaynee's #2 - After Oct 27th (which has turned into my A race since Galveston I was injured) I plan to take the month of November off. When I say off I mean cut workouts to probably 5 hours a week just maintaining base. My wife and I hopefully will spend a week in Playa Del Carmen then in December I will start base building for Ironman Texas (my first full) in May 2014. Since I don't have the base for a full I will be mainly base building this winter. Hey Gang, I have a couple of questions. 1) How do you put the list of Manatees with the links on the front of your training log. Many of you have this, and I would like to follow suit. 2) I would love to know what everyone's plans/goals are going into the off-season. Some people have goals listed in the from part of their logs, but it would be nice to hear what people are reaching towards these days, if you don't mind sharing :) Ah, another one who's A race I overlooked--I'm sorry. Good luck on the 27th! Building for your first full is a big deal :) Do you have a plan picked out? Do you anticipate any part of building that base being particularly challenging? The "best shape of [your] life" sounds very promising. I hope you rock Austin. I would love to do that race someday! |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head :) |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Don't leave us hanging, what are you going to do?!Btw, ran the causeway this am per your suggestion. I hate you OK Elesa, you got me to thinking about goals and such last night. A little recap is in order, as it puts things into perspective for me. In the spring, there was much discussion in the Utopian thread about biking, intervals, improvements, etc. It made me analyze my bike training. I am not a plan following, metric measuring kind of guy, but I knew the bike was an area I could make improvements through disciplined training. Combine that with the fact that I like to ride and it was a natural fit. I added in intervals, rode more in group, especially a better group, got a Strava account (don't laugh, it helped) and generally focused on the bike. It worked, as I am feeling stronger on the bike. Last winter, I focused on running more, in an effort to improve my run speed. The weather works in my favor for this and it starts my day with a smile. My plan was simple, run more and you'll run faster. For the most part, it worked. I knocked 13 minutes off my HM PR, and felt all around better when running. So, what shall I do this winter becomes the question. What type of focus? The easy and obvious answer is swim. Mine resembles drowning avoidance while moving forward. The more obvious answer lies in the joy I find. I truly enjoy the bike and the run. Having typed this out and reread it a couple of times, I think I know what I need to do. Thanks a bunch for giving me the opportunity to work this all out in my head. ![]() I am going to figure it out. And yet a part of you thanks me at the same time. You're welcome. Is tonight's dinner on the outside law folks? Lot's of nice places in downtown Sarasota. However, the full on Florida experience is found on Siesta Key, try SKOB, The Daiquiri Deck or the Old Salty Dog. Then stroll down Ocean Blvd to the public beach a few blocks away to the beach that is consistently voted Best in America by Dr Beach. With a name like Dr Beach, he can't be wrong |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Very interesting. That's pretty much exactly how I roll, though I have a lot less knowledge about how to do it that I'm drawing from.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by switch Hey Gang, I have a couple of questions. 1) How do you put the list of Manatees with the links on the front of your training log. Many of you have this, and I would like to follow suit. 2) I would love to know what everyone's plans/goals are going into the off-season. Some people have goals listed in the from part of their logs, but it would be nice to hear what people are reaching towards these days, if you don't mind sharing :) Get faster. Building back up some volume in everything for a few weeks. Swimming will have intensity as able. Likely to put in a few swim heavy blocks. Bike will have some solid volume for a bit without the highest intensity, add that in later. Not all of it will easy, but also not *that* hard for awhile. Running will build back up for a bit, just getting mileage. Not as much as I did last year, but something sustainable while pushing the other two. Add a little intensity later on after regularly getting in some miles, and it won't interfere with the other two. I love it-- "get faster". Word. OK, so part of my reason for asking this of everyone is because I really think of you all as a resource, and I think if we know each others' goals, and can make them specific, we can help each other with encouragement and accountability. Ben, I don't know if you need either of those things, as you strike me as an incredibly self-motivated athlete, but I will be rooting for you to "get faster" and it sounds like you have a solid plan of attack. How far out do you map out your periodization and training? You don't work with a coach (yet), right? Only coach I've had is with masters, and not sure that fully counts as much since it's it's not really specific to me or an event. I'll have some rather vague concepts of how I want to work things going out a number of months. Basically just deciding which discipline is primary, secondary, and third over some periods of time. It's not really a hard schedule. Very open to changing or mixing it up if something comes up and can't train one as well as I'd like, or if things are getting stale. When I get close to or into a the more focused part I'll look more into how I'll progress through it. Mostly working the schedule and getting a rough idea of the size and intensity of the work to do, how I'm going to build those up. And adjusting as needed as I progress to it. I don't have specific workouts picked out more than a week ahead very often, just the vague notion of threshold work, big ride, hilly riding, for examples. Somewhat often I won't actually actually be certain of the workout specifics until I'm about to do it. In the logs, I think around June you might be able to pick up some of this building up on the bike workouts. And then again in August as I moved things around to put in some more solid work into the bigger rides. Things that would be useful for pushing an HIM and specifically for one with a number of good sized hills. Ben, how many years have you been doing tris? Have you considered getting a coach, or is part of the enjoyment for you doing it on your own? |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Ahhh ha! A swim focus then? :)OK Elesa, you got me to thinking about goals and such last night. A little recap is in order, as it puts things into perspective for me. In the spring, there was much discussion in the Utopian thread about biking, intervals, improvements, etc. It made me analyze my bike training. I am not a plan following, metric measuring kind of guy, but I knew the bike was an area I could make improvements through disciplined training. Combine that with the fact that I like to ride and it was a natural fit. I added in intervals, rode more in group, especially a better group, got a Strava account (don't laugh, it helped) and generally focused on the bike. It worked, as I am feeling stronger on the bike. Last winter, I focused on running more, in an effort to improve my run speed. The weather works in my favor for this and it starts my day with a smile. My plan was simple, run more and you'll run faster. For the most part, it worked. I knocked 13 minutes off my HM PR, and felt all around better when running. So, what shall I do this winter becomes the question. What type of focus? The easy and obvious answer is swim. Mine resembles drowning avoidance while moving forward. The more obvious answer lies in the joy I find. I truly enjoy the bike and the run. Having typed this out and reread it a couple of times, I think I know what I need to do. Thanks a bunch for giving me the opportunity to work this all out in my head. I really like hearing about other's goals and their plans for working towards them. I think we have a really valuable resource here in the pod--and I'd like to try to harness that as much as possible. The inspires, the accountability, the wealth of knowledge--all of that has been really helpful to me, and I'd like to make sure I'm able to help my fellow pod mates out as much as possible. I have found that I am most "successful" when I can make my goals as specific as possible and then put them "out there." I guess that's what I was hoping we could all do with this little exercise. Again, big apologies to those who are still approaching their A race this season. Go you :) |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by QueenZipp Awesome :) Will do.Gratitude challenge!!!! Here's the challenge: Find ONE thing every day that you are thankful for. Post it in your log. That is it! |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by QueenZipp Gratitude challenge!!!! Here's the challenge: Find ONE thing every day that you are thankful for. Post it in your log. That is it! I'm in..... OMG it's only Thursday. This week is dragging. And I'm feeling a little burnt out this week so I'm trying not to overdo it. I'll have to catch up later tonight. I see the most activity here mid day! Have a good Thursday all. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Very interesting. That's pretty much exactly how I roll, though I have a lot less knowledge about how to do it that I'm drawing from.Originally posted by switch Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by switch Hey Gang, I have a couple of questions. 1) How do you put the list of Manatees with the links on the front of your training log. Many of you have this, and I would like to follow suit. 2) I would love to know what everyone's plans/goals are going into the off-season. Some people have goals listed in the from part of their logs, but it would be nice to hear what people are reaching towards these days, if you don't mind sharing Get faster. Building back up some volume in everything for a few weeks. Swimming will have intensity as able. Likely to put in a few swim heavy blocks. Bike will have some solid volume for a bit without the highest intensity, add that in later. Not all of it will easy, but also not *that* hard for awhile. Running will build back up for a bit, just getting mileage. Not as much as I did last year, but something sustainable while pushing the other two. Add a little intensity later on after regularly getting in some miles, and it won't interfere with the other two. I love it-- "get faster". Word. OK, so part of my reason for asking this of everyone is because I really think of you all as a resource, and I think if we know each others' goals, and can make them specific, we can help each other with encouragement and accountability. Ben, I don't know if you need either of those things, as you strike me as an incredibly self-motivated athlete, but I will be rooting for you to "get faster" and it sounds like you have a solid plan of attack. How far out do you map out your periodization and training? You don't work with a coach (yet), right? Only coach I've had is with masters, and not sure that fully counts as much since it's it's not really specific to me or an event. I'll have some rather vague concepts of how I want to work things going out a number of months. Basically just deciding which discipline is primary, secondary, and third over some periods of time. It's not really a hard schedule. Very open to changing or mixing it up if something comes up and can't train one as well as I'd like, or if things are getting stale. When I get close to or into a the more focused part I'll look more into how I'll progress through it. Mostly working the schedule and getting a rough idea of the size and intensity of the work to do, how I'm going to build those up. And adjusting as needed as I progress to it. I don't have specific workouts picked out more than a week ahead very often, just the vague notion of threshold work, big ride, hilly riding, for examples. Somewhat often I won't actually actually be certain of the workout specifics until I'm about to do it. In the logs, I think around June you might be able to pick up some of this building up on the bike workouts. And then again in August as I moved things around to put in some more solid work into the bigger rides. Things that would be useful for pushing an HIM and specifically for one with a number of good sized hills. Ben, how many years have you been doing tris? Have you considered getting a coach, or is part of the enjoyment for you doing it on your own? Finishing up my 5th season. I was rather active on the bike before that, and also running to an extent, but mostly just went out and did it. Training became much more organized and learned so much more about various aspects of it after starting tri. I think about a coach from time to time, but mostly because it's a good idea to take another look at basically anything we do from time to time. It might help to organize and plan things more for better performance, but learning how to do this is a big part of why I like it so much. I want that challenge of figuring out how to put things together. There is the masters coach, but with the way things work it seems more like a consultant available than what I'm used to in coaches from being on various teams growing up. The coach doesn't lord over practice here like the others would yet there is very expert advice available when we want to ask about it. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Yes, the outside attorneys take us and pay- always appreciated. I assume they'll want to stay around here, so be'll probably end up somewhere on st Armand's circle. I'm betting the Columbia . If they ask for suggestions for places away from this area, I will happily bring up some of yours! ThanksOriginally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Don't leave us hanging, what are you going to do?!Btw, ran the causeway this am per your suggestion. I hate you OK Elesa, you got me to thinking about goals and such last night. A little recap is in order, as it puts things into perspective for me. In the spring, there was much discussion in the Utopian thread about biking, intervals, improvements, etc. It made me analyze my bike training. I am not a plan following, metric measuring kind of guy, but I knew the bike was an area I could make improvements through disciplined training. Combine that with the fact that I like to ride and it was a natural fit. I added in intervals, rode more in group, especially a better group, got a Strava account (don't laugh, it helped) and generally focused on the bike. It worked, as I am feeling stronger on the bike. Last winter, I focused on running more, in an effort to improve my run speed. The weather works in my favor for this and it starts my day with a smile. My plan was simple, run more and you'll run faster. For the most part, it worked. I knocked 13 minutes off my HM PR, and felt all around better when running. So, what shall I do this winter becomes the question. What type of focus? The easy and obvious answer is swim. Mine resembles drowning avoidance while moving forward. The more obvious answer lies in the joy I find. I truly enjoy the bike and the run. Having typed this out and reread it a couple of times, I think I know what I need to do. Thanks a bunch for giving me the opportunity to work this all out in my head. ![]() I am going to figure it out. And yet a part of you thanks me at the same time. You're welcome. Is tonight's dinner on the outside law folks? Lot's of nice places in downtown Sarasota. However, the full on Florida experience is found on Siesta Key, try SKOB, The Daiquiri Deck or the Old Salty Dog. Then stroll down Ocean Blvd to the public beach a few blocks away to the beach that is consistently voted Best in America by Dr Beach. With a name like Dr Beach, he can't be wrong |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by switch Originally posted by JJ- Originally posted by switch Right now I am still with my coach who I had some difficulties with leading up to Galveston but has since put me in the best shape of my life so well see how Austin goes. Originally posted by JJ- Originally posted by switch #1 - I just look at Jaynee's #2 - After Oct 27th (which has turned into my A race since Galveston I was injured) I plan to take the month of November off. When I say off I mean cut workouts to probably 5 hours a week just maintaining base. My wife and I hopefully will spend a week in Playa Del Carmen then in December I will start base building for Ironman Texas (my first full) in May 2014. Since I don't have the base for a full I will be mainly base building this winter. Hey Gang, I have a couple of questions. 1) How do you put the list of Manatees with the links on the front of your training log. Many of you have this, and I would like to follow suit. 2) I would love to know what everyone's plans/goals are going into the off-season. Some people have goals listed in the from part of their logs, but it would be nice to hear what people are reaching towards these days, if you don't mind sharing Ah, another one who's A race I overlooked--I'm sorry. Good luck on the 27th! Building for your first full is a big deal The "best shape of [your] life" sounds very promising. I hope you rock Austin. I would love to do that race someday! I've read alot of reviews about this race and the consensus is it's not a great destination race. The road conditions are horrible, traffic is bad, and transitions are muddy. That said it is pretty close for me and I needed another 70.3 this year so it just made since. I will let y'all know my thoughts after the race. Of course I'm from East Texas so rolling hills and chip seal is something I ride on every day so it may not be as bad as the reviews say. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by QueenZipp Gratitude challenge!!!! Here's the challenge: Find ONE thing every day that you are thankful for. Post it in your log. That is it! I'm in! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Yes, the outside attorneys take us and pay- always appreciated. I assume they'll want to stay around here, so be'll probably end up somewhere on st Armand's circle. I'm betting the Columbia . If they ask for suggestions for places away from this area, I will happily bring up some of yours! Thanks Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by cdban66 Don't leave us hanging, what are you going to do?!Btw, ran the causeway this am per your suggestion. I hate you OK Elesa, you got me to thinking about goals and such last night. A little recap is in order, as it puts things into perspective for me. In the spring, there was much discussion in the Utopian thread about biking, intervals, improvements, etc. It made me analyze my bike training. I am not a plan following, metric measuring kind of guy, but I knew the bike was an area I could make improvements through disciplined training. Combine that with the fact that I like to ride and it was a natural fit. I added in intervals, rode more in group, especially a better group, got a Strava account (don't laugh, it helped) and generally focused on the bike. It worked, as I am feeling stronger on the bike. Last winter, I focused on running more, in an effort to improve my run speed. The weather works in my favor for this and it starts my day with a smile. My plan was simple, run more and you'll run faster. For the most part, it worked. I knocked 13 minutes off my HM PR, and felt all around better when running. So, what shall I do this winter becomes the question. What type of focus? The easy and obvious answer is swim. Mine resembles drowning avoidance while moving forward. The more obvious answer lies in the joy I find. I truly enjoy the bike and the run. Having typed this out and reread it a couple of times, I think I know what I need to do. Thanks a bunch for giving me the opportunity to work this all out in my head. ![]() I am going to figure it out. And yet a part of you thanks me at the same time. You're welcome. Is tonight's dinner on the outside law folks? Lot's of nice places in downtown Sarasota. However, the full on Florida experience is found on Siesta Key, try SKOB, The Daiquiri Deck or the Old Salty Dog. Then stroll down Ocean Blvd to the public beach a few blocks away to the beach that is consistently voted Best in America by Dr Beach. With a name like Dr Beach, he can't be wrong Remember, I'm a beer and burger guy, so my suggestions sway in that realm. Take the Columbia. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 Is Little T more competitive with academics? Is E less in tune to academics? There may be a balance to this. I am less competitive in sports and academics, both came easy and I didn't have to push hard so I became lazy (my story, I'm sticking to it). However, TW and I play Scrabble and it is cut throat. I believe this stems from the even playing field we are on. I find the whole topic can be huge, far ranging and very individualized. I like your theory though. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 Is Little T more competitive with academics? Is E less in tune to academics? There may be a balance to this. I am less competitive in sports and academics, both came easy and I didn't have to push hard so I became lazy (my story, I'm sticking to it). However, TW and I play Scrabble and it is cut throat. I believe this stems from the even playing field we are on. I find the whole topic can be huge, far ranging and very individualized. I like your theory though. Little T (theoretically, of course) is very competative academically. Like you, it came easy but she still worked to make sure every grade was as close to 100% as she could muster. Little E... well, I get the (theoretical, of course) impression she is good at everything |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 Is Little T more competitive with academics? Is E less in tune to academics? There may be a balance to this. I am less competitive in sports and academics, both came easy and I didn't have to push hard so I became lazy (my story, I'm sticking to it). However, TW and I play Scrabble and it is cut throat. I believe this stems from the even playing field we are on. I find the whole topic can be huge, far ranging and very individualized. I like your theory though. Little T (theoretically, of course) is very competative academically. Like you, it came easy but she still worked to make sure every grade was as close to 100% as she could muster. Little E... well, I get the (theoretical, of course) impression she is good at everything At this point is Little T theoretically pushing herself to be more well rounded, especially physically? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 Is Little T more competitive with academics? Is E less in tune to academics? There may be a balance to this. I am less competitive in sports and academics, both came easy and I didn't have to push hard so I became lazy (my story, I'm sticking to it). However, TW and I play Scrabble and it is cut throat. I believe this stems from the even playing field we are on. I find the whole topic can be huge, far ranging and very individualized. I like your theory though. Little T (theoretically, of course) is very competative academically. Like you, it came easy but she still worked to make sure every grade was as close to 100% as she could muster. Little E... well, I get the (theoretical, of course) impression she is good at everything At this point is Little T theoretically pushing herself to be more well rounded, especially physically? Ha. Well... Little T isn't so little anymore. But the question lies in whether the competative drive corrolates to the ability to push. As my times improve and I get closer to the podium I would like to dip in to that competative spirit to train harder... but it's just not there! I am improving, but I often question my ability to let myself ease off during training. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by QueenZipp Gratitude challenge!!!! Here's the challenge: Find ONE thing every day that you are thankful for. Post it in your log. That is it! This makes me so happy. A. because I thought you might want to kill me for my comments B. because it's awesome |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Little T may want to use tools like Strava to fuel her competition. Visualization is another option. I have found that group rides and some of the guys I ride with have pushed my bike, big time this year. The group is somewhat Strava-centric, so the push increases when you see the results out there for anyone to see. This is an easy, low thought answer to a bigger question for you on my part. I realize we are talking big picture, but remember that I have a pea sized brain Edited by cdban66 2013-10-03 1:08 PM |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by QueenZipp Gratitude challenge!!!! Here's the challenge: Find ONE thing every day that you are thankful for. Post it in your log. That is it! I like this challenge. Perhaps a silly question, but must it be a different thing each day? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Little T may want to use tools like Strava to fuel her competition. Visualization is another option. I have found that group rides and some of the guys I ride with have pushed my bike, big time this year. The group is somewhat Strava-centric, so the push increases when you see the results out there for anyone to see. It's true that Strava does push me, I mean HER. I have a "plan" to get the QOM on segments that I'm so close on. Of course, when I don't get it I assume they were with a group Edited by rrrunner 2013-10-03 1:08 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 Little T may want to use tools like Strava to fuel her competition. Visualization is another option. I have found that group rides and some of the guys I ride with have pushed my bike, big time this year. The group is somewhat Strava-centric, so the push increases when you see the results out there for anyone to see. It's true that Strava does push me, I mean HER. I have a "plan" to get the QOM on segments that I'm so close on. Of course, when I don't get it I assume they were with a group Oh, I get it, every KOM that I don't hold was taken by crooked means Crap, I gotta get back to work, but I would also tell her that she has come a long way, and Little C is really impressed. Theoretically. Edited by cdban66 2013-10-03 1:15 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Since I am not interested in listening to cases interpreting the contraband forfeiture act, I will jump in here with my gut reaction to this topic. I don't know it is as simple as saying a person was or was not encouraged in a particular area that determines if they have that competitive spirit; I think it may be more a function of a person's basic personality and what is important to him or her. So while a person, because of circumstances, may not have been exposed to sports, when exposed at a later date she will still have the opportunity to exercise her competitive nature if, in fact, that is part of her personality.Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 Is Little T more competitive with academics? Is E less in tune to academics? There may be a balance to this. I am less competitive in sports and academics, both came easy and I didn't have to push hard so I became lazy (my story, I'm sticking to it). However, TW and I play Scrabble and it is cut throat. I believe this stems from the even playing field we are on. I find the whole topic can be huge, far ranging and very individualized. I like your theory though. Little T (theoretically, of course) is very competative academically. Like you, it came easy but she still worked to make sure every grade was as close to 100% as she could muster. Little E... well, I get the (theoretical, of course) impression she is good at everything At this point is Little T theoretically pushing herself to be more well rounded, especially physically? Ha. Well... Little T isn't so little anymore. But the question lies in whether the competative drive corrolates to the ability to push. As my times improve and I get closer to the podium I would like to dip in to that competative spirit to train harder... but it's just not there! I am improving, but I often question my ability to let myself ease off during training. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by rrrunner Since I am not interested in listening to cases interpreting the contraband forfeiture act, I will jump in here with my gut reaction to this topic. I don't know it is as simple as saying a person was or was not encouraged in a particular area that determines if they have that competitive spirit; I think it may be more a function of a person's basic personality and what is important to him or her. So while a person, because of circumstances, may not have been exposed to sports, when exposed at a later date she will still have the opportunity to exercise her competitive nature if, in fact, that is part of her personality. Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed I don't know how you can be so fast and not have it?! See, that's how ingrained it is for me, I can't even comprehend how you can't have it. I'd gladly share it, if I thought that would work...Originally posted by switch I think it was in the Ryan Hall section that Daniels spoke of this a little bit (I've seen it elsewhere too, but we have that one in common). And it was that idea of looking more at the process instead of things like World Champion. It's ok to want things like that, but still put more into the process of training and getting the most out of yourself. I'd like to actually LOVE to not give two-chits about the other part, but the type A person in me can't let that go. and I would maybe like a little more of that competitive spirit. Wanna share? So much of running at long distance is running for a time, rather than racing to win (at least at the levels that I've done it), that I can see how it you don't really need it. But the level that you are at, and the level you are most certainly going to, IDK. I'll be surprised if it doesn't rear it's head I've given a lot of thought to the "competative spirit". I wonder if it isn't a product of our environment. Let's take a child, we'll call her Little E. She shows promise at sports so she is encouraged to continue and doing well gives her the drive to win, which helps her work toward the win and so on. Now Little T on the other hand did not show promise at sports. Teachers and parents encouraged her in her academics and probably told her sports aren't her thing (this is not child abuse, see gen y thread). So Little T does not try to improve at sports, does not win and either never had or never developed the will to win. It's a chicken and egg sort of thing I think. Just a theory. My .02 Is Little T more competitive with academics? Is E less in tune to academics? There may be a balance to this. I am less competitive in sports and academics, both came easy and I didn't have to push hard so I became lazy (my story, I'm sticking to it). However, TW and I play Scrabble and it is cut throat. I believe this stems from the even playing field we are on. I find the whole topic can be huge, far ranging and very individualized. I like your theory though. Little T (theoretically, of course) is very competative academically. Like you, it came easy but she still worked to make sure every grade was as close to 100% as she could muster. Little E... well, I get the (theoretical, of course) impression she is good at everything At this point is Little T theoretically pushing herself to be more well rounded, especially physically? Ha. Well... Little T isn't so little anymore. But the question lies in whether the competative drive corrolates to the ability to push. As my times improve and I get closer to the podium I would like to dip in to that competative spirit to train harder... but it's just not there! I am improving, but I often question my ability to let myself ease off during training. that's a good point. Chrissie Wellington is a great example. She was very competative as a kid, but not in sports. Then when she got older and tried sports she channelled that competitiveness in to being a serious contender. Edited by rrrunner 2013-10-03 2:05 PM |
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