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 2009-06-05 4:05 PM in reply to: #2198078 |
Expert  1330    Arizona |  Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results!Slidell4life - 2009-06-05 1:57 PM Relative VO2 Max is of the units mL/kg/min Ah. That might do it.  Is that bodyweight? -Jot |
| 2009-06-05 4:06 PM in reply to: #2198096 |
Expert 1330 Arizona | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! gamebofh - 2009-06-05 2:05 PM Slidell4life - 2009-06-05 1:57 PM Relative VO2 Max is of the units mL/kg/min Ah. That might do it. Is that bodyweight? NM. Guess so. "It is measured as milliliters of oxygen used in one minute per kilogram of body weight " Don't have a good answer there.  -Jot |
| 2009-06-05 4:09 PM in reply to: #2198096 |
Elite 2645  Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! gamebofh - 2009-06-05 2:05 PM Slidell4life - 2009-06-05 1:57 PM Ah. That might do it. Relative VO2 Max is of the units mL/kg/min Is that bodyweight? -Jot
I believe so. My VO2Max is 3.93 L/min and my Relative VO2Max is 54.7 mL/kg/min. Some fancy math reveals the kg to be 71.8 kg = 158 pounds, which is me. |
| 2009-06-05 4:16 PM in reply to: #2198106 |
Extreme Veteran 344 Maricopa, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! mine was 5.87 L/min and I weigh 180 pounds |
| 2009-06-05 4:17 PM in reply to: #2059358 |
Extreme Veteran 344 Maricopa, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! Hey Chad, Did you go for your third test yet to get your bmi and also do the Windgate to see your power output? |
| 2009-06-05 4:22 PM in reply to: #2198128 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! moto_mort - 2009-06-05 2:17 PM Hey Chad, Did you go for your third test yet to get your bmi and also do the Windgate to see your power output? I did. The body scan was really cool. I felt like I was in a human-sized copy machine, or scanner. I am 12% fat, and my bone density was litterally off the chart. So I'm pretty happy about that. Also, my ACL replacement showed up on the scan as a black dot. |
| 2009-06-05 4:34 PM in reply to: #2197936 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! robot - 2009-06-05 12:54 PM There is one thing I don't understand, it seems the consensus is that it is hard to change your VO2Max. Is this assuming that the person is already at their optimum weight or they will maintain that weight? Because the calculation for V02Max incorporates the athletes weight so any change there would change your VO2Max. It's an equilibrium thing. To some extent, weight loss will improve your VO2 max, because you are reducing the divisor in the middle. At some point though, the weight loss becomes counterproductive because you start losing power from loss of muscle as well. VO2 max isn't a great predictor of performance. Lactate threshold (LT) and vVO2 (The speed at which you hit VO2 max) are much better predictors. Edited for correctness. Sorry, been a while since I had my ex phys classes. TlimvVO2 is what I mixed it up with, and TlimvVO2 is how long you can stay working at or near vVO2. Gas tanks are a much better analogy. Say Chads 54 gives him a 15 gallon gas tank, and Mort has a 20 gallon tank with his 71. Mort is better, right? But, if Chad gets 50 miles to the gallon, he can go 750 miles, and if mort gets 30 miles to the gallon, he can only go 600 miles. vVO2 also includes an efficiency measure, which makes it a much better forecaster of actual performance. John Edited by tkd.teacher 2009-06-05 4:49 PM |
| 2009-06-05 5:00 PM in reply to: #2059358 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! |
| 2009-06-05 5:06 PM in reply to: #2198211 |
Expert 1330 Arizona | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! |
| 2009-06-05 5:06 PM in reply to: #2198211 |
Extreme Veteran 344 Maricopa, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! Slidell4life - 2009-06-05 3:00 PM I'm hauling around a gas tank alright.
PS: work really sucks today, amirite? yeah, my wife always complains about my gas. PS yes, I have serious lack of motivation and it is almost time to go home. I better crank out some work in the last hour here, so today is not a complete waste. |
| 2009-06-05 5:07 PM in reply to: #2198166 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! tkd.teacher - 2009-06-05 2:34 PM robot - 2009-06-05 12:54 PM There is one thing I don't understand, it seems the consensus is that it is hard to change your VO2Max. Is this assuming that the person is already at their optimum weight or they will maintain that weight? Because the calculation for V02Max incorporates the athletes weight so any change there would change your VO2Max. It's an equilibrium thing. To some extent, weight loss will improve your VO2 max, because you are reducing the divisor in the middle. At some point though, the weight loss becomes counterproductive because you start losing power from loss of muscle as well. VO2 max isn't a great predictor of performance. Lactate threshold (LT) and vVO2 (The speed at which you hit VO2 max) are much better predictors. Edited for correctness. Sorry, been a while since I had my ex phys classes. TlimvVO2 is what I mixed it up with, and TlimvVO2 is how long you can stay working at or near vVO2. Gas tanks are a much better analogy. Say Chads 54 gives him a 15 gallon gas tank, and Mort has a 20 gallon tank with his 71. Mort is better, right? But, if Chad gets 50 miles to the gallon, he can go 750 miles, and if mort gets 30 miles to the gallon, he can only go 600 miles. vVO2 also includes an efficiency measure, which makes it a much better forecaster of actual performance. John Sorry again. Rereading that, it's a bit of a mess. VO2 max - Measure of the heart/lungs/circulation system and their efficiency vVO2 - The speed at which you attain VO2 max. TlimVO2 - the time you can spend at VO2 max. So, take two people, each with a VO2 of 60. Runner A hits that when doing 8 min miles. Runner B hits that when doing 7 minute miles. Runner B is a more efficient runner, and theoretically should be able to outperform Runner A. Now toss in TlimvVO2. Runner A can spend 32 minutes at his vVO2 pace. Runner B can spend 24 minutes at his vVO2. Who wins a 4 mile race? John |
| 2009-06-05 5:12 PM in reply to: #2059358 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! I have had 3 VO2 Tests done since 2006 with the most recent two test both being 78.6. Initially I was around 74 in 2006. So you can increase it, but it really isn't a very important data point in and of itself. All that matters is how fast you can cover the distance. |
| 2009-06-05 5:16 PM in reply to: #2059358 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! |
| 2009-06-05 5:25 PM in reply to: #2198223 |
Extreme Veteran 344 Maricopa, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! So, take two people, each with a VO2 of 60. Runner A hits that when doing 8 min miles. Runner B hits that when doing 7 minute miles. Runner B is a more efficient runner, and theoretically should be able to outperform Runner A. Now toss in TlimvVO2. Runner A can spend 32 minutes at his vVO2 pace. Runner B can spend 24 minutes at his vVO2. Who wins a 4 mile race? John Hey Chad, I guess we have to go have a 4 mile race against each other to get the answer, because I am not doing math on a Friday afternoon. |
| 2009-06-05 5:29 PM in reply to: #2198243 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! moto_mort - 2009-06-05 3:25 PM So, take two people, each with a VO2 of 60. Runner A hits that when doing 8 min miles. Runner B hits that when doing 7 minute miles. Runner B is a more efficient runner, and theoretically should be able to outperform Runner A. Now toss in TlimvVO2. Runner A can spend 32 minutes at his vVO2 pace. Runner B can spend 24 minutes at his vVO2. Who wins a 4 mile race? John Hey Chad, I guess we have to go have a 4 mile race against each other to get the answer, because I am not doing math on a Friday afternoon.
I just took a quick look at your log and I see these intervals: mile 1: 6:29 mile 2: 6:30 mile 3: 6:35 mile 4: 6:10 Math sounds easier. |
| 2009-06-05 5:31 PM in reply to: #2198243 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! moto_mort - 2009-06-05 3:25 PM So, take two people, each with a VO2 of 60. Runner A hits that when doing 8 min miles. Runner B hits that when doing 7 minute miles. Runner B is a more efficient runner, and theoretically should be able to outperform Runner A. Now toss in TlimvVO2. Runner A can spend 32 minutes at his vVO2 pace. Runner B can spend 24 minutes at his vVO2. Who wins a 4 mile race? John Hey Chad, I guess we have to go have a 4 mile race against each other to get the answer, because I am not doing math on a Friday afternoon. Hehehehehe...aw, c'mon! It depends on how fast runner B can crawl the last 1/2ish mile after his max time at max speed leaves him right around .55 miles from the finish, while at the same time runner A is at 3 miles. Edited to add: Is there ANYONE doing anything resembling work right now? John Edited by tkd.teacher 2009-06-05 5:32 PM |
| 2009-06-05 5:37 PM in reply to: #2198255 |
Expert 1330 Arizona | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! |
| 2009-06-08 5:49 AM in reply to: #2059358 |
Master 1882 Chandler, Arizona | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! Chad,Does the body scan also tell you your resting metabolic rate? |
| 2009-06-08 9:53 AM in reply to: #2201223 |
Elite 2645 Phoenix, AZ | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! Mirg - 2009-06-08 3:49 AM Chad,Does the body scan also tell you your resting metabolic rate? Negative. |
| 2009-06-08 10:52 AM in reply to: #2201804 |
Master 1882 Chandler, Arizona | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! Slidell4life - 2009-06-08 7:53 AM Bummer, for some reason I thought that was part of the research experiment testing. Mirg - 2009-06-08 3:49 AM Chad,Does the body scan also tell you your resting metabolic rate? Negative. |
| 2009-06-08 11:15 AM in reply to: #2201804 |
Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! Slidell4life - 2009-06-08 7:53 AM Mirg - 2009-06-08 3:49 AM Chad,Does the body scan also tell you your resting metabolic rate? Negative. Did they get a VCO2 at rest? If so, you can plug that into the following formula to estimate RMR: RQ = VCO2/VO2 Kcal/min = [(1.1 x RQ) + 3.9] x VO2 John |
| 2009-06-08 2:03 PM in reply to: #2202211 |
Expert 1330 Arizona | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! |
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| Elite 4048 Gilbert, Az. | Subject: RE: VO2/RMR Test Results! gamebofh - 2009-06-08 12:03 PM I feel confident that Chad will not fall for your math trap. -JotWell if he has both #'s, I'll do the math... John |
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