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2012-12-03 12:27 PM
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crowny2 - 2012-12-03 10:49 AM BTW, I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that the grammar police hasn't slammed you yet.  Cool

 

It's taken everything I have to leave it alone.  obvious type-o.

a/an, whatever I'm an engineer.  Just being efficient leaving off those extra unnecessary letters



2012-12-03 12:30 PM
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Sorry for the late reply:

BT CoJ Looney-Lefty-Liberal "BFD" here...

This has nothing to do with gun control and this shouldn't be the time or place to discuss gun control.

This has everything to do with identifying and treating mental illness, seeing the signs and preventing domestic violence.  This was an extreme "crime of passion" and the means could've been just about anything.

To me, the moment of silence before Sunday's Chiefs-Panthers game was for Kasandra Perkins.

 

I think the chiefs explicitly said in their public-address announcement that the moment of silence was for "the victims of domestic violence." When the team officials commented in the news conference, they mentioned her first. Did anyone see the comments made by the Chiefs QB at the news conference? I wish I could find them. They were great. Heartfelt and smart, and exactly on point.

Brady Quinn

“We live in a society of social networks, with Twitter pages and Facebook, and that’s fine, but we have contact with our work associates, our family, our friends, and it seems like half the time we are more preoccupied with our phone and other things going on instead of the actual relationships that we have right in front of us.  Hopefully, people can learn from this and try to actually help if someone is battling something deeper on the inside than what they are revealing on a day-to-day basis.”

His press conference.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center/videos/From-the-Podium-Brady-Quinn/e494fa92-887c-445b-a42c-087fde2901e9

Poinant.

Not really....men have been battering women since long before anyone even heard of the interwebs, cell phones, etc.  The fact is, just like on this thread and most of the discussion since this incident, nobody really wants to talk about it no matter what the avenue is. 

2012-12-03 12:32 PM
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TriRSquared - 2012-12-03 12:26 PM

jmk-brooklyn - 2012-12-03 12:42 PM
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TriRSquared - 2012-12-03 7:24 AM

Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.



OK so a conspiracy THEORY, then?
2012-12-03 12:33 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

2012-12-03 12:39 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.



You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?
2012-12-03 12:40 PM
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I thought it was "an" idiot.


2012-12-03 12:43 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-12-03 1:32 PM
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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

OK so a conspiracy THEORY, then?

No theory either.  Go back and read my original reply.  There is a difference between a conspiracy to collude on a reply and a broadcaster (who is also a self professed liberal) wanting to move the focus away from the real issue that could cause his employer (indirectly, the NFL) issues.

You think the NFL would react well to a Costas report that brought up questions about brain injuries, alcohol abuse and domestic violence?

It's nothing near a "conspiracy".

2012-12-03 12:45 PM
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1stTimeTri - 2012-12-03 1:40 PM I thought it was "an" idiot.

Your too laté   ;P

2012-12-03 12:47 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:39 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:33 PM
KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

2012-12-03 12:47 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-12-03 1:32 PM
TriRSquared - 2012-12-03 12:26 PM
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TriRSquared - 2012-12-03 7:24 AM

Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

OK so a conspiracy THEORY, then?

No theory either.  Go back and read my original reply.  There is a difference between a conspiracy to collude on a reply and a broadcaster (who is also a self professed liberal) wanting to move the focus away from the real issue that could cause his employer (indirectly, the NFL) issues.

You think the NFL would react well to a Costas report that brought up questions about brain injuries, alcohol abuse and domestic violence?

It's nothing near a "conspiracy".



You're saying that the NFL is directly responsible for Costas' report.

That, by definition, is a conspiracy theory.
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1stTimeTri - 2012-12-03 1:40 PM I thought it was "an" idiot.

Kind of demeaning to refer to Mr Costas as an "it", dontcha think?



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tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:47 PM

mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:39 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:33 PM
KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.



Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.
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mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:59 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:47 PM
mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:39 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:33 PM
KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

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tuwood - 2012-12-03 2:06 PM
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tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:47 PM
mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:39 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:33 PM
KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

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tuwood - 2012-12-03 1:06 PM

mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:59 PM
tuwood - 2012-12-03 12:47 PM
mr2tony - 2012-12-03 12:39 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol



Well for what it's worth I live in a good neighborhood in Chicago and have been mugged and jumped by little thieves who had much opportunity to stab or shoot me. Still see no need for a gun as I was already packin' two: Lefty and Righty. BOOYAH!
2012-12-03 1:14 PM
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 7:01 AM

So those of you who are pro guns - do you not think there is a connection to more guns = more gun deaths?

It seems to me compared to a lot of other countries we have more guns and also more murders, mass murders etc.  Of course you can kill a person a lot of different ways but guns are so easy - it is pulling a trigger.  I agree it is the person who pulls the trigger but allowing them to get guns so easy is part of the problem IMO.

I am not against all guns for all people but do think it should be MUCH more difficult to get a gun. I could go out today and get a gun and I am in no way qualified to own a gun.  Just because you are an American and it is a right does not mean you should be allowed.  Easier to get a gun than a drivers license.  People should have to take tests, longer waiting period etc.

 

It would appear that if you look at statistics that yes it is true.

If you look at the same statistics you could also conclude that there are fewer rapes and less violent crime for the same reason.  For example Canada has doulbe the #'s of rape per capita than the USA.

Who wants to see more women raped? Not I.

I have not seen the rape numbers. Do you have a link?

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

Here ya go.

Keep in mind the USA has 10x as many people as Canada.

Gun ownership is a big and serious responsibility as well as a right. Having a CCW carries even more of a responsibility.

Not to you Keri or anyone in particular. I've heard mention several times on the value of women learing how to get out of these abusive relationship, I think even more important is women learning how to aviod relationships and men like this in the first place. I think that begins at a very early age in the home.

So having said that, what are the things we do or don't do as parents that help or hurt both the boys and girls as they are young and growing up to be better partners in relationships.

 

 



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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

I've heard that the south side of Chicago is the baddest part of town.

If you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown.

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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

OK so a conspiracy THEORY, then?

No theory either.  Go back and read my original reply.  There is a difference between a conspiracy to collude on a reply and a broadcaster (who is also a self professed liberal) wanting to move the focus away from the real issue that could cause his employer (indirectly, the NFL) issues.

You think the NFL would react well to a Costas report that brought up questions about brain injuries, alcohol abuse and domestic violence?

It's nothing near a "conspiracy".

You're saying that the NFL is directly responsible for Costas' report. That, by definition, is a conspiracy theory.

Deep breath....

I'm saying no such thing.  You're a smart boy.  Read what I've written. Again.

Costas would never say anything bad about the NFL as he knows that is who ultimately pays his bills.  He's not covering the REAL story because it would make the NFL look bad.  So he's doing this 100% on his own.  But he's protecting his "employer" in the process.

 

And now Whitlock is calling the NRA the new KKK.  I wonder if Costas will parrot that on live TV?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2012/12/03/columnist-who-inspired-bob-costas-drops-new-bomb-nra-new-kkk

Can I amend my title?  Costas and Whitlock are idiots...



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Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

Well for what it's worth I live in a good neighborhood in Chicago and have been mugged and jumped by little thieves who had much opportunity to stab or shoot me. Still see no need for a gun as I was already packin' two: Lefty and Righty. BOOYAH!

The Pythons...

In all likelihood if I were to be mugged I would hand over my wallet.  I just like to know if the bad guy feels the need to escalate things that I have the options available to escalate with him/her.  I'm probably the furthest thing from the tough guy looking for a fight, but I am not comfortable trusting the bad guy not to escalate things.

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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.



I think so. I still think it was just Costas on his own, and not really anything that the NFL or the network wanted him to say. His bosses might have been happy that he said it for the reasons you gave, but I don’t think that’s what was on his mind when he decided to put it out there.
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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

I think so. I still think it was just Costas on his own, and not really anything that the NFL or the network wanted him to say. His bosses might have been happy that he said it for the reasons you gave, but I don’t think that’s what was on his mind when he decided to put it out there.

What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?



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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

Well for what it's worth I live in a good neighborhood in Chicago and have been mugged and jumped by little thieves who had much opportunity to stab or shoot me. Still see no need for a gun as I was already packin' two: Lefty and Righty. BOOYAH!

Yeah so Asians are born with mad kung foo skills, white guys have to carry guns. What's your point? Are you arguing for fung foo fighting control?

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Of course the NFL will do anything to move the focus away from the possible brain damage that the game is causing these players.  It couldn't be the 1000s of head to head collisions right?  No it has to be the guns' fault.

I don't think Costas' comments are any kind of broad conspiracy on the part of the NFL to deflect from the concussion issue. I think it's one guy with a microphone shooting his mouth off. That seems like a stretch. YOu're saying the NFL directed Costas to go on the air and say that? Not likely.

I didn't see anyone but you mention a conspiracy.

I was asking TriR to clarify his comment. It sounded like he was suggesting that Costas had made his comments at the behest of the NFL as an attempt to deflect attention from the other issues that might have contributed to the tragedy, namely head injuries, alcohol abuse, and domestic violence, which have all been ongoing issues within the NFL. My point was that I thought Costas was "acting alone" and didn't have the impression that he was speaking directly on behalf of the NFL or his employer.

And did my response several replies above clarify it for you?  In short, not a conspiracy but Costas knows where his paycheck comes from.

I think so. I still think it was just Costas on his own, and not really anything that the NFL or the network wanted him to say. His bosses might have been happy that he said it for the reasons you gave, but I don’t think that’s what was on his mind when he decided to put it out there.

What do you think the the NFL reactions would have been if he had started talking about the drug and alochol problems and/or head injuries that NFL players have to deal with rather than what he did say?

Nothing. They are already saying that on various outlets. Costas likes taking a different tack because he's an idiot. I think I posted a thread a while ago that he was the celebrity I would most like to slap in the face of all celebrities. The fact that this isn't even his original thought, but a parroting of another writer makes me want to slap him harder in the face for being a parroter of stupid concepts!
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KeriKadi - 2012-12-03 11:21 AM

Honestly if a dude came at me and tried to rape me and I pulled out a gun he would probably take it from me and shoot me with it. I think this is true for a lot of women. We like to think we would be ready and could use whatever weapon we have on us for a lot of potential victims we have just given them a weapon they didn't have.

There's always a risk of this happening which is why responsible gun ownership should be accompanied with proper training.  I don't think it should be mandatory, but it is highly recommended.

There are many ways and many tools, both lethal, and non lethal that you can use to protect yourself in a situation like that.  The important thing is that in America you have the options to carry and or use whichever ones you are comfortable with.

My wife carries Pepper Spray all the time and that's it because that's her level of comfort.  I carry a gun, a knife, pepper spray, and a tactical flashlight all the time because that's my comfort level and I like having options.

You also have the option to do nothing and just hope the bad guy isn't one of the "really bad" ones.

You live in such fear for your life on a daily basis that you feel the need to carry four weapons at all times?

Not at all.  In fact I'm quite comfortable on a daily basis. 

I've had two situations in the last 5 years, prior to carrying that made me very uncomfortable.  When the Millard South school shooting happened just a few blocks away from my office the kid drove to my business and killed himself in the street less than 30 yards from my office window.  He could have easily gotten out and continued his rampage.  That wasn't a good feeling.

I had another situation where I fired a person who was certifiably insane.  The guy had made subtle threats and I was genuinely afraid for my life.  I called the police and they said there wasn't much they could do at this point.  Two days later he pulled up in front of the office and I about pee'd myself to put it mildly.  I ran out and locked the doors and it was not very pretty.  He didn't have a weapon and left shortly afterwards, but I don't ever want to have that feeling of helplessness ever again.

Yes, I live and work in probably one of the safest neighborhoods in Omaha, but stuff still happens.

Well to each their own. You probably shouldn't move to a major city, though. I can't imagine the fear you'd feel here on a daily basis. Chicago can be rough.

I lived in Chicago for 2 years, and yes I accidentally went into a couple of "those" neighborhoods.  I remember getting lost (before I had GPS) once and pulled up next to a police car to ask for directions.  The car had bullet holes down the side and the cop just stared at me and didn't say a word.  Talk about freaky.  lol

Well for what it's worth I live in a good neighborhood in Chicago and have been mugged and jumped by little thieves who had much opportunity to stab or shoot me. Still see no need for a gun as I was already packin' two: Lefty and Righty. BOOYAH!

Yeah so Asians are born with mad kung foo skills, white guys have to carry guns. What's your point? Are you arguing for fung foo fighting control?



It's not Kung Fu, racist.


















It's ninjutsu. :D
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