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2014-01-26 3:50 PM
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Well, I managed a run yesterday for the first time in a couple of weeks. I went to my local parkrun and plodded around at the back (literally - I came in 271 out of 275!). It's officially the slowest 5k I've ever done. I came in at just over 40min! I was trying to keep my HR down and was really struggling. But a couple of times when it got up slightly I felt light headed, so I just made myself plod around. It's really hard keeping that discipline when everyone around you is trying for a PR and because I can't explain yet WHY I'm so slow. I know its important and I'm sticking to it carefully, but I can't wait to able to explain myself to people... Considering my min/mile pace was considerably slower than my pace for the outlaw marathon last year, in 90F heat, it's a bit demoralising. I've decided that next time I go I'm going to volunteer as tail-runner, that way I have an excuse for being right at the back.

After I got home I managed to pull something in my mid-back lifting a laundry basket! So I had to miss the swim session as I still couldn't rotate without pain. It seems to be feeling a lot better today but I may go visit my Physio. The last thing I need at the moment is back problems.

Today I am ill, so no training, but I don't really feel like I'm missing much as we had heavy rain and wind all night, then around mid morning it started to snow. Not a great day for getting out there!


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Good to see another parkrunner here! I found it impossible to go really slow when everybody around treats is as a race and struggles for PB.
Since it's a long weekend here (Australia Day), I went for a ride, maybe 40k and at the end watched open ocean swim + run competition. Didn't enter, because it attracts really good competitors, ex pros and pro wannabies. Recreational athletes would feel out of place among those. I must say though, the ocean swim looked really tempting, big surf and strong wind made it really hard and just surviving it would have felt great. Maybe another time.

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Good to see another parkrunner here! I found it impossible to go really slow when everybody around treats is as a race and struggles for PB.
Since it's a long weekend here (Australia Day), I went for a ride, maybe 40k and at the end watched open ocean swim + run competition. Didn't enter, because it attracts really good competitors, ex pros and pro wannabies. Recreational athletes would feel out of place among those. I must say though, the ocean swim looked really tempting, big surf and strong wind made it really hard and just surviving it would have felt great. Maybe another time.


I love the concept of parkrun, and every time I go I remember how friendly and welcoming it is. When our run started there were about 50 people each week and now it's always above 250. Apparently at Bushy last week they had 1100! I wonder how far it will go. I'm told there are now 4 parkruns in the USA, and although the legal side is more likely to cause problems there I think it's just a matter of time before it takes off. Do any of our US-based members have a local parkrun?

That ocean swim sounds awesome and daunting at the same time. I'm not great in waves!
2014-01-27 7:52 AM
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Originally posted by markz

Good to see another parkrunner here! I found it impossible to go really slow when everybody around treats is as a race and struggles for PB.
Since it's a long weekend here (Australia Day), I went for a ride, maybe 40k and at the end watched open ocean swim + run competition. Didn't enter, because it attracts really good competitors, ex pros and pro wannabies. Recreational athletes would feel out of place among those. I must say though, the ocean swim looked really tempting, big surf and strong wind made it really hard and just surviving it would have felt great. Maybe another time.


I love the concept of parkrun, and every time I go I remember how friendly and welcoming it is. When our run started there were about 50 people each week and now it's always above 250. Apparently at Bushy last week they had 1100! I wonder how far it will go. I'm told there are now 4 parkruns in the USA, and although the legal side is more likely to cause problems there I think it's just a matter of time before it takes off. Do any of our US-based members have a local parkrun?

That ocean swim sounds awesome and daunting at the same time. I'm not great in waves!


I had never heard of it until you and Mark brought it up. Could you explain it? I have a fair guess by the name of it, but I don't want to assume that it is an open run in a park that starts at a designated time.
2014-01-27 9:12 AM
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Joe, well done on stage 2!
I just did stage 3, Revolver 45 min, and those are 45 the toughest 45 min I have done on a bike, my heart almost came out and my legs are now scared of the trainer! Not looking forward to see what's coming on the next stages, hahaha
2014-01-27 9:22 AM
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Joe, well done on stage 2!
I just did stage 3, Revolver 45 min, and those are 45 the toughest 45 min I have done on a bike, my heart almost came out and my legs are now scared of the trainer! Not looking forward to see what's coming on the next stages, hahaha


I finished Revolver this morning. I could feel the performance drain out of me and my stats show it. Couldnt make the IF goal of 1.0, but made it to .98. Those 16 x 1' segments were beyond difficult. First time I thought I was actually going to hurl while on the trainer. I may need to add a bucket to my set up.


2014-01-27 9:40 AM
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Joe, well done on stage 2!
I just did stage 3, Revolver 45 min, and those are 45 the toughest 45 min I have done on a bike, my heart almost came out and my legs are now scared of the trainer! Not looking forward to see what's coming on the next stages, hahaha


I finished Revolver this morning. I could feel the performance drain out of me and my stats show it. Couldnt make the IF goal of 1.0, but made it to .98. Those 16 x 1' segments were beyond difficult. First time I thought I was actually going to hurl while on the trainer. I may need to add a bucket to my set up.


I think its cool that you are doing this. I knew my schedule wouldn't accommodate the tour, but I love the videos. Really, I'm not afraid. The first time I did "There is no Try" I almost threw up.
2014-01-27 2:09 PM
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Jim, that's exactly what it is. Free open 5k social run in a designated area. Originally a UK concept, now spreading to many other countries. Here they need a local council permit and pay a fee, around $5000.- per location to be able to set it up. Run entirely by volunteers and funded by sponsors (like Adidas).. In my area, within 30km radius, there are now 5 of them! The participation varies from 50 to 350 runners. Biggest ones in Australia attract over 1000 runners as well. Every registered runner has a barcode and timing is done manually by a volunteer and then uploaded on the website, so you get all the statistics if you like. Most people treat it as a race. I love the concept too, not only it is free, but you meet new people and have a chance to chat with the usual friends. We often go for coffee afterwards.
Apparently there is also a small opposition of organisers who charge for their runs and other events, the numbers of their participants is already affected.

Here is the website:
http://www.parkrun.com/

and the latest newsletter with my story... (oh, god here I go again, but it's for a good cause):
http://www.parkrun.com.au/news/

Mark

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Hell Hath No Fury is in the bag. Not as bad as Revolver. It only gets worse from here.
2014-01-28 8:17 AM
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Hell Hath No Fury is in the bag. Not as bad as Revolver. It only gets worse from here.


You're a better man than me! Good job Joe!
2014-01-28 5:12 PM
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I just did day 4, Hell Hath No Fury at lunch and really had to dig deep to finish it.  I'm at work and still dizzy from the effort, and its only day 4 out of 9, not looking great.

BTW, I'm working with a low FTP of 200, but my trainer feels like it has jelly instead of fluid since it is a 13 year old fluid trainer from Performance Bike, so I'm not sure if it is accurate to the amount of effort I feel I'm putting in. I'm supposed to get a new Cycleops trainer at the end of this week so it will be good to see if there is any difference.

 

 



2014-01-28 6:44 PM
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Originally posted by sirgab

I just did day 4, Hell Hath No Fury at lunch and really had to dig deep to finish it.  I'm at work and still dizzy from the effort, and its only day 4 out of 9, not looking great.

BTW, I'm working with a low FTP of 200, but my trainer feels like it has jelly instead of fluid since it is a 13 year old fluid trainer from Performance Bike, so I'm not sure if it is accurate to the amount of effort I feel I'm putting in. I'm supposed to get a new Cycleops trainer at the end of this week so it will be good to see if there is any difference.

 

 




Nice job. A new trainer will make such a big difference that you will kick yourself for suffering needlessly.

These workouts are nuts. Tomorrow is Extra Shot followed immediately by the Wretched. Will probably buy the Wretched to keep it interesting. I should have a nice collection of workouts after the tour. The sick part is that part of me actually enjoys the suffering.
2014-01-29 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by sirgab

I just did day 4, Hell Hath No Fury at lunch and really had to dig deep to finish it.  I'm at work and still dizzy from the effort, and its only day 4 out of 9, not looking great.

BTW, I'm working with a low FTP of 200, but my trainer feels like it has jelly instead of fluid since it is a 13 year old fluid trainer from Performance Bike, so I'm not sure if it is accurate to the amount of effort I feel I'm putting in. I'm supposed to get a new Cycleops trainer at the end of this week so it will be good to see if there is any difference.

 

 




Nice job. A new trainer will make such a big difference that you will kick yourself for suffering needlessly.

These workouts are nuts. Tomorrow is Extra Shot followed immediately by the Wretched. Will probably buy the Wretched to keep it interesting. I should have a nice collection of workouts after the tour. The sick part is that part of me actually enjoys the suffering.

The Wretched is my favorite. Mostly because they used me as the model in the beginning, ha ha. That one will kick your butt. I look forward to hearing about it.
2014-01-29 12:59 PM
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Did Extra Shot this morning and immediately followed with the Wretched. Wretched was a really good video and I enjoyed being mocked by the narration. The video of the TdF was awesome and riding up Alp d'Huez with Cadel Evans and Jens Voigt was pretty cool and worthy of an audible "Shut Up Legs!" followed by a slew of four letter words. Only four more days of suffering.
2014-01-29 1:29 PM
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Are you guys rocking a power meter or using virtual power based off your trainers? Just being curious?

I had Santa get me one for Christmas and I am loving the honesty its creating for me in my workouts. Can't wait to ride outside with it once we thaw.
2014-01-29 2:24 PM
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Are you guys rocking a power meter or using virtual power based off your trainers? Just being curious?

I had Santa get me one for Christmas and I am loving the honesty its creating for me in my workouts. Can't wait to ride outside with it once we thaw.


I use virtual power since I'm too cheap to buy a real meter. The power curve on the Kinetic trainer is pretty stable so the virtual number is probably 80-85% accurate, which is good enough for me. As long as the baseline is constant, improvement is easy to measure.

Can't say enough good things about trainerroad. It is the poor man's Computrainer. I've been with them since the beta version and pay something crazy like $6 month. Adds a lot to painful drainer time and the integration with Sufferfest and other vids are seamless.


2014-01-29 9:31 PM
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Originally posted by JoePetto Did Extra Shot this morning and immediately followed with the Wretched. Wretched was a really good video and I enjoyed being mocked by the narration. The video of the TdF was awesome and riding up Alp d'Huez with Cadel Evans and Jens Voigt was pretty cool and worthy of an audible "Shut Up Legs!" followed by a slew of four letter words. Only four more days of suffering.

Kuddos to you Joe, you seem to still be going strong!

Today's workouts kicked my butt.  I did Extra Shot with no warm-up and it as tough.  Then took about 20 minutes in between workouts to drop my girls at the bus stop, but even with that little break, my legs were begging for the Wretched to come to an end.  Later on at work, I was having tremors from the flashbacks from today's workouts, and we are only on day 5... 

Mitch, like Joe, I also only use virtual power through TrainerRoad, which is a great, really affordable tool, to become acquainted with training with power.  Have you seen some improvements/fitness gains while training with your new power meter?

2014-01-30 7:13 AM
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Stage 6 - A Very Dark Place - proved to be true to its name. 6 x 4' sets at like 120% of FTP brought me to me knees along with dry heaves. 3 more days - next stage Angels back to back with the Hunted.
2014-01-30 9:02 AM
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Mitch, like Joe, I also only use virtual power through TrainerRoad, which is a great, really affordable tool, to become acquainted with training with power.  Have you seen some improvements/fitness gains while training with your new power meter?




I think the answer is that as long as your training (w/power) comes from a consistent set of #s you are okay. I train on a kurt kinetic as well. What I like is not having to worry of my tire is at the same psi or if the resistance is cranked down the same as the last time. Also, since I haven't used trainerroad I was always having to have a handy cheatsheet that crossed speed on my bike to power to %FTP for my workouts.

Now I don't ever look at speed and don't worry as much on my setup of the trainer. I also look forward to the same power #s indoors transferring to outdoors. I've been using the Cycleops virtual training app and am looking forward to testing outs its functionality where I can virtually climb alpe d'huez or mount ventoux, etc.

Finally, to get around to answering your question, I've been training with the new power meter since around Jan. 1st. I think the power training group I'm in has testing next week. We will see. The caveat is that I was coming down with the flu when I did the 20 min power test and ultimately estimated my 20 min power # to arrive at a CP or FTP #. we were using the 5 min and 20 min test protocol to calculate CP. I will say that I am learning a lot. Its all good!
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February Challenge:

We're going to go old school. Add your name to the list if you are interested in participating. Simple rules. Every day that you workout for at least 30 minutes in S/B/R you get a point. You will also tally up your total S/B/R minutes each day as the month progresses. Maximum workout points is therefore 28. If two or more participants have 28 points at the end of the month the tiebreaker is total minutes worked out.

I'm not a dictator so open for any input over the day for tweaks.

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2014-01-30 12:42 PM
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Again, I really struggled to get through day 6, A Very Dark Place.  To make the nightmare worse, I did not get a confirmation after I finished that I had completed the workout and all I got was there was a problem uploading my workout (I could not entertain the thought of having to do it again).  Fortunately it is now fixed and officially in the books.  Not looking forward to tomorrow



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I'm in, and ready for kickin' it old school.

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2014-01-30 2:45 PM
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Okay- I'm totally clueless- but I've always wondered- how do these videos work? Do you need a power meter or something, or could you just do it with a spin bike? Is it a download? What are they like? Are there easier ones to start with?

I need to start biking (although with 18" of fresh snow in the past 24 hours it's not going to be this weekend!)
2014-01-30 2:47 PM
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I'll give it a go- is it limited to S/B/R or does can cross country skiing substitute for running?

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2014-01-30 3:30 PM
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Also in but am worried that if I survive going through the last stage of the Tour of Sufferlandria, I may need a week off to recover

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