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Pretty consistent and on plan for me this month.

March's totals:

Bike:23h 57m 33s  - 476.73 Mi
Run:17h 41m 51s  - 133.26 Mi
Swim:8h 45m  - 26650 Yd
Strength:3h 40m


2011-04-01 8:46 AM
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UGH... did you guys just see the Ironman Lake Placid Announcement.  Apparently this winter took a toll on the roads up in Placid, Route 9 in Jay particularly and there is a major road construction project slated to start next month to repair frost heaves and cracked pavement that will have half the course under construction for the entire summer.  In response WTC has had no choice but to make the Bike course a FOUR TIME out & back down the Keene descent and back.  We're gonna have to climb the Keene descent four freaking times!!  They said the estimated new elevation gain will be doubled and make this (for this year) one of the toughest Ironman Bike's.  WTC said we should embrace this change and challenge and begin training accordingly.  UNBELIEVABLE!! 

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Dream Chaser - 2011-04-01 7:46 AM UGH... did you guys just see the Ironman Lake Placid Announcement.  Apparently this winter took a toll on the roads up in Placid, Route 9 in Jay particularly and there is a major road construction project slated to start next month to repair frost heaves and cracked pavement that will have half the course under construction for the entire summer.  In response WTC has had no choice but to make the Bike course a FOUR TIME out & back down the Keene descent and back.  We're gonna have to climb the Keene descent four freaking times!!  They said the estimated new elevation gain will be doubled and make this (for this year) one of the toughest Ironman Bike's.  WTC said we should embrace this change and challenge and begin training accordingly.  UNBELIEVABLE!! 

I guess it is a good thing then that I am living by the Rockies, Cascades and BC coastal mountains all summer then...? It's like my research supervisor KNEW that this was going to happen and sent me to Vancouver for the summer...I should thank him. Haha.

Definately unbelievable though! Wow!

ETA: Now that I think about this....I'm not entirely certain if I just fell for something or not...April Fool's..? Maybe.............



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Dream Chaser - 2011-04-01 9:46 AM UGH... did you guys just see the Ironman Lake Placid Announcement.  Apparently this winter took a toll on the roads up in Placid, Route 9 in Jay particularly and there is a major road construction project slated to start next month to repair frost heaves and cracked pavement that will have half the course under construction for the entire summer.  In response WTC has had no choice but to make the Bike course a FOUR TIME out & back down the Keene descent and back.  We're gonna have to climb the Keene descent four freaking times!!  They said the estimated new elevation gain will be doubled and make this (for this year) one of the toughest Ironman Bike's.  WTC said we should embrace this change and challenge and begin training accordingly.  UNBELIEVABLE!! 

I saw that too! BUT!

you forgot the link!!!

htp://www.ironmanlakeplacid.com/newBikeCourseAnnouncement.html

2011-04-01 9:10 AM
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wstchstrTriathlete - 2011-04-01 10:01 AM

Dream Chaser - 2011-04-01 9:46 AM UGH... did you guys just see the Ironman Lake Placid Announcement.  Apparently this winter took a toll on the roads up in Placid, Route 9 in Jay particularly and there is a major road construction project slated to start next month to repair frost heaves and cracked pavement that will have half the course under construction for the entire summer.  In response WTC has had no choice but to make the Bike course a FOUR TIME out & back down the Keene descent and back.  We're gonna have to climb the Keene descent four freaking times!!  They said the estimated new elevation gain will be doubled and make this (for this year) one of the toughest Ironman Bike's.  WTC said we should embrace this change and challenge and begin training accordingly.  UNBELIEVABLE!! 

I saw that too! BUT!

you forgot the link!!!

htp://www.ironmanlakeplacid.com/newBikeCourseAnnouncement.html

 

HAHA! I have to admit this got me until I saw the link!

2011-04-01 9:41 AM
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Awesome!


2011-04-01 9:47 AM
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HAPPY APRIL FOOLS FRIDAY EVERYONE!!
2011-04-01 10:02 AM
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THAT was just wrong! DC, you just made me feel nauseous b/c I was so scared for about 45 seconds. My heart rate is back under control now and feeling much more relaxed.

Now off to the pool.

 

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I agree that was the cruelest April fools joke ever - but I laughed really hard!

Thanks for the Friday funny!Tongue out

2011-04-01 1:31 PM
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Before I left the pool today, I leaned over the front desk and with a straight-face said to the woman and lifeguard, "Someone is projectile vomiting all over the pool deck."  The lifeguard's jaw dropped and he started running toward the pool deck.  I immediately said, "April Fools" with a smile, and we all had a good laugh.  Ahhhhh.... I love April 1st. 

GOOD TIMES, good times....  



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ironwannabe - 2011-04-01 11:02 AM

THAT was just wrong! DC, you just made me feel nauseous b/c I was so scared for about 45 seconds. My heart rate is back under control now and feeling much more relaxed.

Now off to the pool.

 




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Dream Chaser - 2011-04-01 2:31 PM

Before I left the pool today, I leaned over the front desk and with a straight-face said to the woman and lifeguard, "Someone is projectile vomiting all over the pool deck."  The lifeguard's jaw dropped and he started running toward the pool deck.  I immediately said, "April Fools" with a smile, and we all had a good laugh.  Ahhhhh.... I love April 1st. 

GOOD TIMES, good times....  

 

Haha - You are out of control! I've fallen for so many today. Oh well

2011-04-01 3:02 PM
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The jokes today have been ridiculous!

 

I went out today for what ended up being a 40mile hammerfest.  I wanted to go easy and my legs felt sluggish from the previous hammerfest, but after I hammered some rolling hills and overpasses, I decided to just go for broke.  I ended up with a normalized power of 216 which is insane for me.

At Steelhead last summer my NP was about 153.  I really went for it on this ride.  The weird thing is my speed was something like 17.2 which seems incredibly low.  Perhaps its the fact that I rode rolling hills as opposed to pancake flat steelhead, but even then I averaged 19mph with considerably less wattage.

I think I raced steelhead at 150-152lbs and now I probably weigh around 160lbs, but would that really make much of a difference?  I also wasn't down on my aerobars for the entire ride because my pre-season muscles still have to adapt again but I was really hammering it.

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LOL...awesome!!Sealed
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carlwithac - 2011-04-01 4:02 PM

The jokes today have been ridiculous!

 

I went out today for what ended up being a 40mile hammerfest.  I wanted to go easy and my legs felt sluggish from the previous hammerfest, but after I hammered some rolling hills and overpasses, I decided to just go for broke.  I ended up with a normalized power of 216 which is insane for me.

At Steelhead last summer my NP was about 153.  I really went for it on this ride.  The weird thing is my speed was something like 17.2 which seems incredibly low.  Perhaps its the fact that I rode rolling hills as opposed to pancake flat steelhead, but even then I averaged 19mph with considerably less wattage.

I think I raced steelhead at 150-152lbs and now I probably weigh around 160lbs, but would that really make much of a difference?  I also wasn't down on my aerobars for the entire ride because my pre-season muscles still have to adapt again but I was really hammering it.

It takes more energy to move a heavier object, therefore if you and I were riding up a hill side by side @ the same exact speed, and you happen to weigh 20 lbs heavier than me, you would HAVE to push more wattage than me for us stay @ the same speed.

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wstchstrTriathlete - 2011-04-01 5:08 PM
carlwithac - 2011-04-01 4:02 PM

The jokes today have been ridiculous!

 

I went out today for what ended up being a 40mile hammerfest.  I wanted to go easy and my legs felt sluggish from the previous hammerfest, but after I hammered some rolling hills and overpasses, I decided to just go for broke.  I ended up with a normalized power of 216 which is insane for me.

At Steelhead last summer my NP was about 153.  I really went for it on this ride.  The weird thing is my speed was something like 17.2 which seems incredibly low.  Perhaps its the fact that I rode rolling hills as opposed to pancake flat steelhead, but even then I averaged 19mph with considerably less wattage.

I think I raced steelhead at 150-152lbs and now I probably weigh around 160lbs, but would that really make much of a difference?  I also wasn't down on my aerobars for the entire ride because my pre-season muscles still have to adapt again but I was really hammering it.

It takes more energy to move a heavier object, therefore if you and I were riding up a hill side by side @ the same exact speed, and you happen to weigh 20 lbs heavier than me, you would HAVE to push more wattage than me for us stay @ the same speed.

I'm aware of that but there have been some rather compelling arguments on ST to the extent of making 8 lbs or so seem rather neglible on the bike.

And now that I think of it, at home I use a digital scale and when I hop on the old fashion scale, I'm usually about 4lbs heavier.  At school all I have access to is an old fashion scale.  So I'm thinking I'm only probably 2-4lbs heavier.

Food for thought at least



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carlwithac - 2011-04-01 8:12 PM
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carlwithac - 2011-04-01 4:02 PM

The jokes today have been ridiculous!

 

I went out today for what ended up being a 40mile hammerfest.  I wanted to go easy and my legs felt sluggish from the previous hammerfest, but after I hammered some rolling hills and overpasses, I decided to just go for broke.  I ended up with a normalized power of 216 which is insane for me.

At Steelhead last summer my NP was about 153.  I really went for it on this ride.  The weird thing is my speed was something like 17.2 which seems incredibly low.  Perhaps its the fact that I rode rolling hills as opposed to pancake flat steelhead, but even then I averaged 19mph with considerably less wattage.

I think I raced steelhead at 150-152lbs and now I probably weigh around 160lbs, but would that really make much of a difference?  I also wasn't down on my aerobars for the entire ride because my pre-season muscles still have to adapt again but I was really hammering it.

It takes more energy to move a heavier object, therefore if you and I were riding up a hill side by side @ the same exact speed, and you happen to weigh 20 lbs heavier than me, you would HAVE to push more wattage than me for us stay @ the same speed.

I'm aware of that but there have been some rather compelling arguments on ST to the extent of making 8 lbs or so seem rather neglible on the bike.

And now that I think of it, at home I use a digital scale and when I hop on the old fashion scale, I'm usually about 4lbs heavier.  At school all I have access to is an old fashion scale.  So I'm thinking I'm only probably 2-4lbs heavier.

Food for thought at least

 

You did say this was a hillier course vs pancake flat? I think there is your answer....

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wstchstrTriathlete - 2011-04-01 8:19 PM
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carlwithac - 2011-04-01 4:02 PM

The jokes today have been ridiculous!

 

I went out today for what ended up being a 40mile hammerfest.  I wanted to go easy and my legs felt sluggish from the previous hammerfest, but after I hammered some rolling hills and overpasses, I decided to just go for broke.  I ended up with a normalized power of 216 which is insane for me.

At Steelhead last summer my NP was about 153.  I really went for it on this ride.  The weird thing is my speed was something like 17.2 which seems incredibly low.  Perhaps its the fact that I rode rolling hills as opposed to pancake flat steelhead, but even then I averaged 19mph with considerably less wattage.

I think I raced steelhead at 150-152lbs and now I probably weigh around 160lbs, but would that really make much of a difference?  I also wasn't down on my aerobars for the entire ride because my pre-season muscles still have to adapt again but I was really hammering it.

It takes more energy to move a heavier object, therefore if you and I were riding up a hill side by side @ the same exact speed, and you happen to weigh 20 lbs heavier than me, you would HAVE to push more wattage than me for us stay @ the same speed.

I'm aware of that but there have been some rather compelling arguments on ST to the extent of making 8 lbs or so seem rather neglible on the bike.

And now that I think of it, at home I use a digital scale and when I hop on the old fashion scale, I'm usually about 4lbs heavier.  At school all I have access to is an old fashion scale.  So I'm thinking I'm only probably 2-4lbs heavier.

Food for thought at least

 

You did say this was a hillier course vs pancake flat? I think there is your answer....

I guess it means I need to ride AS MUCH AS I CAN from now until LP if I want to have any chance of going 6hrs and being able to run the full marathon.  I think the route I did had about(I could honestly be way off, I don't remember and I think KathyG(?) said the Garmin500 is a terrible altimeter) 1kft of elevation gain.  I can't imagine riding 6-7x that elevation.

An no official countdown clock yet!!!

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Compare average watts and NP to the two different rides as well as your vi.

The more you spike your power on hills the bigger the differential and the higher your vi will be.

I bring up gearing over an d over as proper gearing on hilly course will make a big difference as to how variable your ride. Every time you hammer up the hill or spike your power, it will hurt your run in a tri. Doing it in training is quite different.

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Nice training folks this month!

I had some set backs this month, with traveling, being sick, training camp, and struggling with some ongoing injury issues. 

 

 

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Up early this morning to RD the Greater Hartford 1/4 Marathon -- this is my 5th year RDing the race and the race has raised over $20,000 for the Blazeman foundation -- pretty cool. 

Then tomorrow I get to do my last running race before tri season begins -- a hilly 1/2 marathon.  Should be interesting to see if I can PR again.

Hope everyone has a good training day today.



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Good luck to everyone racing and training this weekend!

I had a 3.5 hour bike today. I rode 2 hours outside on my tri bike (first time really taking it out on the open roads and not closed loops). It was tricky at first but I got the hang of it and really enjoyed some parts of it. I think the more confidence I get the more I will stop wanting to be back on my old bike. I did the next hour on the trainer and then the last half hour riding down to race packet pickup for the Cherry Blossom Ten Miler tomorrow. Packet pickup was crazy! The line wrapped around one city block and it started hailing. It took an hour to get in and out which was not a PR for me But thankfully it didn't take longer to pick up the packet than it will to actually run the race! 

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Ryan and Kelly - have great races!!!   Good times also
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Hey guys! Finished my "race" this morning. Indoor sprint tri-750m swim/20k stationary bike/4km track run. It's actually a pretty cool event that my Campus Recreation puts on. I placed 2nd overall for women. Got KILLED on the run by this lady...KILLED. The fact that she weighs like 105lbs and I well...don't...probably didn't help me out, but I still managed to beat my 4km time from last year's event by about a minute. Haha. Final results arn't up year for times but it was somewhat:

750m swim: 10:50ish

20km stat bike: 25-30min ish

4km track run-19min ish

It was a good way to kind of guage where I am at right now at the start of the season. Definately need to get my X x 100m @ 130/140 on swim wise and get some more running off the bike in! Haha.

Good luck to those racing tomorrow!

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Just set up my new CompuTrainer yesterday and took my first ride on it. I rode the first 45 minutes of Ironman Louisville before finishing my brick workout outside. I'll have to admit training inside is going to be much more enjoyable with it. Which is a good thing because it is now snowing again. I wonder if it will ever warm up here.
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