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2009-04-20 11:45 PM
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I'm pretty much in taper mode for Wildflower now, but I'm still finding ways to keep training interesting and feeling productive.  Three days, three firsts:  Longest continuous swim on Saturday, first sub-20 5K on Sunday, and today, fastest bike speed on the flats (no drafting):  29.1 mph (I was racing an express bus from a standing start at a traffic light for 1/4 mile).  I have to admit I was a bit surprised at how long it was taking the bus to catch me after I got out in front...and at my speed when I looked down at my bike computer.

This training stuff does pay off...and that keeps me coming back for more every day.  It's pretty amazing hitting these milestones three weeks before I turn 49...and thinking back to what horrible shape I was in five years ago.


2009-04-21 8:31 AM
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One of the guys in the current mentor forum uses something similar as a sign off.  Says he say it on another forum.  Lord knows where it started.  Great quote!



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2009-04-21 10:29 AM
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Shared your weight loss stories, Todd and Scott, especially since you have experience with WW. Members seemed to be very impressed and motivated. I always want them to know what is possible and you both are shining examples of that.

 

Todd -- Wildflower's coming up quick, huh? There's lots of people coming up from San Diego apparently.

I'm off to do a bike ride and my core class today. This is a TT week for me so we test my s/b/r to see if I go any farther in the same period of time or faster in the same distance. It's that same down tempo run. My training gets cut back on this week, too. Want to get this ride in before it heats up too much. Still warm, but not as hot as yesterday.

Happy Tuesday!

2009-04-21 10:48 AM
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Hey Lynn, only supposed to be 76 on the coast today!
2009-04-21 12:16 PM
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good fred 2 story!  you had some nice cruisin speed morgan, i'm jealous; i like long distance cycling and look forward to my weekend training when i'm on the road at 5 am and back in time for breakfast after riding 50-60 miles.  those are the rides i love to do solo because i get to see wildlife, sunrises, and no traffic.  keep doing it morgan...

My legs and knees were sore, but that wouldn't have been any different if I was going slower. good point! Last 7 miles was pretty much a sprint ... my whole body hurt and I just wanted off that bike.  oh yeah, i always forget about that!  body glide is my friend Wink
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2009-04-22 7:17 AM
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Oh boy, I get to do bike drills AND run 7.5 miles in the training tonight for the Lake Run on May 2.  

Bike was tough last night - 2X 15 mins at 95% FTP, which actually came to 100% in high winds and 40 degrees.  Warming up today though and 80s by the weekend.   
2009-04-22 8:52 AM
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Finally starting to think seriously about Wildflower, coming up next week.  Gotta pull out the camping gear and make sure nothing's gone missing.  Just realized that I don't think we've camped since July of 2006...used to camp at least a couple times a year.  Need a new pair of tri shorts.  Should get the wetsuit out of the closet and get it wet once before we go.  *sigh*  I was happier not thinking about this race.  But I do feel like I'm as ready for it physically as I can be...definitely feeling the benefits of a proper taper period.
2009-04-23 1:30 PM
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I'm picking up my first wet suit today.  Hoping they give ideas on how to care for it.  Are there dos and don'ts?  I imagine so.

2009-04-23 1:44 PM
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IceManScott - 2009-04-23 11:30 AM I'm picking up my first wet suit today.  Hoping they give ideas on how to care for it.  Are there dos and don'ts?  I imagine so.



Somewhere in the archives of the Triathlon Talk forum here, there's a tips-on-wetsuit-care post from one of the manufacturers who occasionally posts here.  If I can find it, I'll post the link here.

In general:

--Be sure to rinse it after use (d'uh).

--I've been told (by Xterra, actually) that you should hang it with the legs draped up over the shoulders (prevents gradual stretching on the hanger).
2009-04-23 3:55 PM
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--Be sure to rinse it after use (d'uh). - Absolutely.  Salt water and/or chlorine are not good if left on neoprene.  Either shower with it and take it off there after you've given it a rinse, or use the garden hose.

--I've been told (by Xterra, actually) that you should hang it with the legs draped up over the shoulders (prevents gradual stretching on the hanger). - Absolutely.  Also, you don't want to hang it in direct sunlight.  Find a shady spot outdoors, or  hang it up inside.

Also, due to the thinness of tri wetsuits in some areas, it's best to make sure you trim your fingernails before pulling on it (like pulling the legs or arms up).  They can tear easily if you're not careful, and fingernail tears are very common.


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2009-04-23 4:22 PM
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From Emilio at DeSoto ...

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2009-04-23 5:05 PM
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I was once looking at wetsuit shampoo or cleaner or whatever they called it at a tri store and asked the guy behind the counter (a triathlete). He said that Johnson's baby shampoo works just as well. So, I always put it in the bathtub of water and some Johnson's for about 20 minutes then rinse it really good, let it dry, then fold it up and put it away. So far, two years and no problems! Good luck!
2009-04-23 6:50 PM
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Poster Nutbag - 2009-04-23 2:22 PM From Emilio at DeSoto ...

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That's the one I was thinking of...thanks for finding it!
2009-04-24 6:40 AM
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Many thanks.  I got a QR.  On closeout.  Told it was a $400 suit, paid $160.  But the guy likes me. :/  I do not know why.  Seemed to be Be Kind to the IceMan Day yesterday.  I take them when they come.

It has a break-away zipper which I think will be good - you pull down to near off and then just pull.  It doesn have leg zippers but it seems to come off fairly easily. 

Felt like I was in a total body condom.  Hot on land.  Whew. 

2009-04-24 10:49 AM
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IceManScott - 2009-04-24 4:40 AM Many thanks.  I got a QR.  On closeout.  Told it was a $400 suit, paid $160.  But the guy likes me. :/  I do not know why.  Seemed to be Be Kind to the IceMan Day yesterday.  I take them when they come.

It has a break-away zipper which I think will be good - you pull down to near off and then just pull.  It doesn have leg zippers but it seems to come off fairly easily. 

Felt like I was in a total body condom.  Hot on land.  Whew. 

Cool that you got a deal Scott. I got mine used and inexpenive as well. That break away zipper thing sounds interesting. Don't think mine does that.  You may have heard this already, but to get it off your feet, use pam cooking spray or body glide on your legs, heels and ankles generously. I've also seen people use plastic grocery bags to help get the suit on over your feet/legs, but I've never had a problem with that.

Maybe it was official Be Kind to the IceMan day and someone forgot to tell you!

 

What's up for everyone this weekend?

 



2009-04-24 11:20 AM
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Saturday - brick.

Sunday - long ride.

Have fun!
2009-04-24 3:37 PM
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Saturday - Sea World for daughter's 6th b-day

Sunday - Who knows?

Tuesday - Travel for off-site board of directors meetings for a week (I'm staff, not a board honcho).  Pity me, we'll be in West Palm Beach for 5 days
2009-04-24 6:15 PM
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Short trainer ride tonight

Sat:  Swim 2K, then ~28-30 mi. ride with my wife.

Sun:  My wife's first 20 mi. training run.  As a compromise between doing my scheduled 2nd and final 20 mile run at marathon pace and tapering for Wildflower (next weekend), I'm going to do the run with her at her pace (11/mile vs my 8:30-ish).  That'll let me get a 4 hour training session for LA Marathon in, without beating myself up too much...I hope...
2009-04-25 12:05 AM
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Happy biking and running Scott and Todd...and Morgan, say hi to Shamu for me. Have fun with your daughter.

I've got my son's track meet tomorrow out in  Escondido. Glad it won't be hot. I'm going to get a run in the morning and then a bike with DH on Sunday. He's off on a biz trip to the east coast on Monday. Looks like my training is going to start ramping up a bit. Nowhere near the 20 miles you're doing Todd!!

 

 

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Poster Nutbag - 2009-04-24 1:37 PM Saturday - Sea World for daughter's 6th b-day

Sunday - Who knows?

Tuesday - Travel for off-site board of directors meetings for a week (I'm staff, not a board honcho).  Pity me, we'll be in West Palm Beach for 5 days


So how was Sea World? We are taking our kids there this Saturday for my son's birthday!


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Really challenging workout today.  I ran with my wife for her first 20-mile training run (in preparation for her first marathon, coming up in four weeks).  It seemed like that would be a way for me to get in a 2nd 20-miler of my own for that marathon, without serious risk of setting myself back for Wildflower next weekend.

Doing the run with Liz, it was like watching my first marathon.  I was actually seeing her go through the stages of moving out of a comfort zone into serious effort, of starting to battle some cramping, and finally into the just non-stop pain that comes on for pretty much everyone sometime after mile 15.  She finally hit the wall at about 18.5 miles and had to stop and cry for a few minutes.  We walked for less than a quarter of a mile and then she was able to run the last mile.  I could see her holding it together to just do a bit faster than a shuffle just like I had to do in my first mary.

Afterwards--after I'd walked a bit and stretched--I found her sobbing again at the car.  "I suck," she said.  I know that feeling--unmanaged expectations running ahead of reality.  We had a really good talk (I think, anyhow) about balancing disappointment (which I think too many people act like doesn't exist--which is living in a fantasyland, IMO) with perspective on what you have accomplished.  It's really easy to get hung up on the difference between running 19.8 and running 20.0 miles (which is less than trivial).  At the same time, there's a real learning experience that can help you plan your strategy for a race (and maybe help motivate you) when you know you have a 26.2 mile run in 4 weeks and you honestly couldn't manage 20.0.

Very interesting and emotional workout, to say the least.

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2009-04-27 7:47 AM
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I've been thinking about goals a lot too.  How they motivate but how they can frustrate at the same time.  I am who I am.  I have to keep the perspective that I will work hard and do what I can do and look for progress, not perfection. 

I'm still a baby at running.  7.5 miles and my legs are sore, my lungs ache.  But, I've run that distance twice and the second was better than the first.  Indeed, last year in August, I couldn't run 3 mins without stopping.  All that goes through my head.

Triathlon Revolution by Terri Schneider has some good suggestions on what to do with negative thinking, how to turn it into positive action and keeping it real.  

My ability to do really has a lot to do with my ability to channel the voices in my head toward thoughts that treat myself kindly and realistically.  

I will never be number one in my age group,  so setting that as my goal is a loser.  Finishing and doing the best I can do - now those are goals that I can meet.  



 
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IceManScott - 2009-04-27 5:47 AM I've been thinking about goals a lot too.  How they motivate but how they can frustrate at the same time.  I am who I am.  I have to keep the perspective that I will work hard and do what I can do and look for progress, not perfection. 

I'm still a baby at running.  7.5 miles and my legs are sore, my lungs ache.  But, I've run that distance twice and the second was better than the first.  Indeed, last year in August, I couldn't run 3 mins without stopping.  All that goes through my head.

Triathlon Revolution by Terri Schneider has some good suggestions on what to do with negative thinking, how to turn it into positive action and keeping it real.  

My ability to do really has a lot to do with my ability to channel the voices in my head toward thoughts that treat myself kindly and realistically.  

I will never be number one in my age group,  so setting that as my goal is a loser.  Finishing and doing the best I can do - now those are goals that I can meet.  


 

I may check out that book ,Scott. My inner critic often tries to get the best of me. And, I do believe goals are great as long as they are realistic, yet we don't want to short change ourselves either. It's a tricky business. Trying to keep it all in perspective is the key. I re-visit the reasons for tri training at all and what I want out of it. Actually, one of the forms my new coach had me fill out had that very question. Why do you want to do triathlons? It might be a question some of us need to re-examine periodically to keep us grounded. Same as why do we run marathons. Like with Todd's wife.  Reading of her experience kind of scares me, but I guess that's the mental toughness often mentioned in the same sentence with marathons. It's on my list of "to dos" so I guess I'll find out one of these days.

Hope you all have a great week. Today's my rest day and I'm going to be true to it. This is the first week of a build cycle for me in all three disciplines. The times spent in each are inching up a bit every week.

I imagine this is a taper week for you, Todd. It will be great to say you've conquered Wildflower!

Have fun at SeaWorld Jocelyn and happy birthday to your boy! Morgan -- hope that family is doing fine and your DW isn't quite so sick.

 

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Doing the run with Liz yesterday pretty much validated some things I tend to believe about the marathon, both from my experiences and what I've heard from others.

The marathon really divides into three sections.  The first third or so (8-10 miles) should be within the comfort zone for most people who take on a marathon, i.e., it should be within the range where most longer runs are on a regular basis.  During this section, you're warming up and feeling good and the temptation is there to go too fast.

The second section (middle third, say miles 9-18) is where the outcome of your marathon is really set up.  This is where pretty much everyone--no matter how fit--is going to really start working.  This is where you have to constantly manage the race...back off your pace if you need to, watch your posture, take in extra nutrition or electrolytes, what have you.  This is all with the recognition that everyone is going to be suffering for most or all of the last third of the race and you need to make it out of the middle third with as much left as possible.  Unless you've been doing at least monthly runs of over 15 miles--and how many people really do that--the middle section is going to hurt...the question is whether it's going to be uncomfortable or torture.  That's where the difference betw. an okay day and an awful one lies.

Somewhere late in the race (the truism is "mile 20"), everyone runs low on fuel--on top of the predictable aches and pains from having run more than ten miles--and the body says it wants to stop.  The deeper into the race you get before you are just bargaining with yourself to hang on or whatever the better.  Hence the need to manage the difficult middle section.

That's my two cents on marathoning.

 

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