Mad Manatees 2015.4 CLOSED (or Poptart/pet pic ticket) (Page 43)

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I think I'm finally awake from my turkey coma! HOORAY!! Anybody score any great black friday or cyber monday deals? I really didn't find much. I got the power2max a few months back so I got screwed on that one So I finally decided to get my obligatory MDot tattoo - ssshhh don't tell anyone :D I hope to find lots of race reports - headed there now! Happy DECEMBER!

How are you liking the Power2max?  How was it to get setup?  I really want a powermeter for Xmas but have been undecided on which route to go.  I got pretty excited on the Watteam Powerbeat until seeing they are sold out on their first production run and the next wouldn't be until the spring. 

Originally posted by cdban66

Originally posted by amd723

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I think I'm finally awake from my turkey coma! HOORAY!! Anybody score any great black friday or cyber monday deals? I really didn't find much. I got the power2max a few months back so I got screwed on that one So I finally decided to get my obligatory MDot tattoo - ssshhh don't tell anyone :D I hope to find lots of race reports - headed there now! Happy DECEMBER!

I didn't score any deals.  Of course, I didn't even look  Mums the word on your MDot tat!!

No go for me as well. We were looking at an action camera and decided it wouldn't get used, so why bother? It was kind of a funny discussion. I think the money will go to a pair of running shoes. 

I had a GoPro a few years ago and never used it.  Seemed like a good idea but never really took off.  I ended up selling it cheap.

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by popsracer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I think I'm finally awake from my turkey coma! HOORAY!! Anybody score any great black friday or cyber monday deals? I really didn't find much. I got the power2max a few months back so I got screwed on that one So I finally decided to get my obligatory MDot tattoo - ssshhh don't tell anyone :D I hope to find lots of race reports - headed there now! Happy DECEMBER!

How are you liking the Power2max?  How was it to get setup?  I really want a powermeter for Xmas but have been undecided on which route to go.  I got pretty excited on the Watteam Powerbeat until seeing they are sold out on their first production run and the next wouldn't be until the spring. 

The p2m is pretty good so far - of course it's only been on trainer road. Setup was instant (after self installation which was not instant). If you are used to installing Ultegra cranks you'll have no problem. The only cranks I install are mtb so it took a few tries and lots of googles (and the purchase of a new tool ) It paired instantly to my Garmin 800 and the trainer road ANT+. Before this I only used virutual power and the readings are within 20 watts so I'm assuming it's accurate. And Steve get the kid a dog for xmas Lisa - I would LOVE to get the family to do a ONE for ONE but my husband will never go for it (we mainly exchange with his family). oh and this pic is for you! Mary - thanks for that article. I have now expanded my Internet speak - I can't even Adrienne - do what makes you happy.

Randee, a coyote and no mouse, I'm disappointed

They have really specialized hobbies - one is a gymnast and the other is a drummer. But I would never be able to pick out anything either of them really needed for those things, ya know? They aren't gamers, and both are set with i-devices and electronics. Mom said they always like "clothes" but I have visions of them returning anything I buy (I did at their age!) and I did that last year, so maybe a gift card is in order...

I did price hoverboards but they are a bit over my budget

In terms of the actual running on part, think of ways you can leverage the treadmill. What are the good things? The things that come to my mind are: consistent pacing, availability of water/food without having to carry it, not having to brave the elements, safety. So, given the things you come up with, build your treadmill session around those things. Maybe do a workout that requires you to maintain a consistent pace (like a tempo) or practice fueling/hydration options that you might not otherwise want to carry. Etc.

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by popsracer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I think I'm finally awake from my turkey coma! HOORAY!! Anybody score any great black friday or cyber monday deals? I really didn't find much. I got the power2max a few months back so I got screwed on that one So I finally decided to get my obligatory MDot tattoo - ssshhh don't tell anyone :D I hope to find lots of race reports - headed there now! Happy DECEMBER!

How are you liking the Power2max?  How was it to get setup?  I really want a powermeter for Xmas but have been undecided on which route to go.  I got pretty excited on the Watteam Powerbeat until seeing they are sold out on their first production run and the next wouldn't be until the spring. 

The p2m is pretty good so far - of course it's only been on trainer road. Setup was instant (after self installation which was not instant). If you are used to installing Ultegra cranks you'll have no problem. The only cranks I install are mtb so it took a few tries and lots of googles (and the purchase of a new tool ) It paired instantly to my Garmin 800 and the trainer road ANT+. Before this I only used virutual power and the readings are within 20 watts so I'm assuming it's accurate. And Steve get the kid a dog for xmas Lisa - I would LOVE to get the family to do a ONE for ONE but my husband will never go for it (we mainly exchange with his family). oh and this pic is for you! Mary - thanks for that article. I have now expanded my Internet speak - I can't even Adrienne - do what makes you happy.

Randee, a coyote and no mouse, I'm disappointed

I Should I just suck it up and continue to relish in my opportunity to run with incredible athletes and stick with my current club? Or is the way it makes me feel, constantly inadequate and hardly deserving of time and resources, wrong? Is there a balance? Maybe this is just completely an adjustment I need to make on my own. But I'm just not sure.

What do you guys think?

I can relate to working out with a group that is on a little different page.  You are much closer to the elites than I am so maybe it's a little easier for me to settle into my groups (or lack of) but I have found that I am a lone wolf and am happier as such.  There are a number of groups that train on the track at WWU where I do my track workouts during those few months of the year that I do that focus.  I know a lot of them personally but cannot bring myself to join them.  Same with running cross country or swimming at Masters or joining one of the weekly group rides.  Even the small group I was trail running with started to lose it luster.

The main reason is that running/swimming/biking is such a personal thing for me that is very deeply rooted to my soul.  Getting dropped on a ride or having the group wait for me at the crest of a hill on the trails transforms the experience into someone else's expectations for the outing not mine.  I have to listen to my own body on any given day.  Some are good days and some not so much.  I want to me able to roll with that and not get drawn into a pi$$ing contest every time out.

As a serious athlete, which again you are much more of that than I am, I can see the benefit of being pushed by better athletes.  Being pulled out of your comfort zone is good for development but I think keeping the overall perspective of who and what you are and why you do it is paramount.  Keep in mind you are mixing it up with the big boys/girls.  The cream of the crop.  To even share a track with these folks is pretty remarkable in my book.  You are hardly inadequate in the grand scheme of things but are measuring yourself at the very pointy end of the stick.  If I were you I'd probably find another group and see what that is like and then decide who you want to train with.  I hope you figure out what is the best fit for you. 

Sorry, Janyne, but zzzzzzzing!

Short answer, stay in touch with your current group but perhaps give new groups a try.  This does not seem to be an ideal fit for you at this time.

When I do group rides, I like to find a group that I can hang with.  By that I mean a group that I can do my pulls and it's a good workout.  No one passes me when I am pulling and when I am sitting on between pulls, I am still working (but not being dropped!).  Last year, I did a lot of group rides with CSH.  When I was recovered enough from my shoulder surgery to tackle group riding again, I found that the CSH group had been taken over by the CAT racers (why they are not doing there team ride and are taking over the shop ride, I have no idea).  I started to ride with another group but they don't push me enough.  So my choices were get dropped by CSH or don't get a good workout with MSing Links. I ended up riding alone most of the summer which was fine because I could leave really early and beat the heat a bit. I'm still looking for another group to ride with.  Anyway, I understand looking for a new group to train with and finding your ideal fit.

I actually prefer drills of some kind to break things up -- something like 3x 1/2 mile @ 5k pace or some such. For me, that makes the time go faster.  Like Karen, I cannot watch TV very well on the treadmill but I do listen to music.  When I am outside, I do not use headphones but inside, it's a must.

As far as pacing, I feel like on the TM, the machine is doing the pacing, not my brain.

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk

Originally posted by popsracer

Originally posted by mtnbikerchk I think I'm finally awake from my turkey coma! HOORAY!! Anybody score any great black friday or cyber monday deals? I really didn't find much. I got the power2max a few months back so I got screwed on that one So I finally decided to get my obligatory MDot tattoo - ssshhh don't tell anyone :D I hope to find lots of race reports - headed there now! Happy DECEMBER!

How are you liking the Power2max?  How was it to get setup?  I really want a powermeter for Xmas but have been undecided on which route to go.  I got pretty excited on the Watteam Powerbeat until seeing they are sold out on their first production run and the next wouldn't be until the spring. 

The p2m is pretty good so far - of course it's only been on trainer road. Setup was instant (after self installation which was not instant). If you are used to installing Ultegra cranks you'll have no problem. The only cranks I install are mtb so it took a few tries and lots of googles (and the purchase of a new tool ) It paired instantly to my Garmin 800 and the trainer road ANT+. Before this I only used virutual power and the readings are within 20 watts so I'm assuming it's accurate.

Good to see you got it in ok. First time working with a crankset may take a bit, but has had a few "Oh now I see" type moments and it's been easy since.

Would be careful of thinking a PM is accurate based on a TR comparison as that could vary by 30 watts. You'll have some new reference points to get used to seeing, but the prior use of power will help quite a bit in getting used to it. I think 20 watts difference is quite a bit for you. Didn't say which direction though that sounds like a good thing as you're less likely to be attached to what TR was estimating. You'll see many guys post their disappointment in seeing FTP "drop" 20-30 watts after getting an actual PM.

Originally posted by 4agoodlife Jumping in for quick question... anyone tried Brooks Pure Grit trail shoes? I think a pair may be on its way to my house. Catching up with you chatterboxes later.

That's what I've been using for my long trail runs. Love them

Originally posted by 4agoodlife

Originally posted by rrrunner

Originally posted by 4agoodlife Jumping in for quick question... anyone tried Brooks Pure Grit trail shoes? I think a pair may be on its way to my house. Catching up with you chatterboxes later.

That's what I've been using for my long trail runs. Love them

Woohoo! They look so much smaller and yet more aggressive...30 days back with LRS, so thought I'd try. Cascadia 10s felt good, but curious about something different.

I'll be in Phoenix tomorrow but, as usual, a whirlwind trip. In tomorrow evening and out Friday afternoon. I'm going to try for a run around Tempe Town Lake tomorrow evening after I land.