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2008-03-30 10:42 AM
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big pomegranate margaritas, sounds like my kind of place.    Hope you are resting well.



2008-03-30 10:52 AM
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Cashmason - 2008-03-29 11:30 PM Gygy, you didn't totally fall apart on the swim. You finished. I have a friend who will be doing her first Ironman in a few months. Her first tri, she got about 50 yards into the lake, turned around and came back and dnf ed. I too have a problem breathing on race day. Breathing anytime is a challenge for me in the water, but with the adrenaline, and going out way too fast on the swim often has me doing sidestroke so I can breathe. Running and biking I can control my pace but put my face in water where I can't breathe when I want too and I wind up trying to get it over with as fast as I can.

Man, your friend has come a long way.  If I hadn't had my friend's hubby encouraging me from the side I don't know what I would have done.  At one point I was thinking, "I am going to drown myself."  Which is a panicky feeling, as I once slipped under at a pool when I was small and didn't know how to swim, scary.  But I am a pretty good swimmer, as long as I'm not freaked out, obviously...  I felt like I was breathing shallow, (nerves) before I even got in, but thought it would pass, it didn't.    I need some sports psychology.  LOL.  I also think that thre pressure of having someone starting 10 sec. behind me was messing with my nerves, in my OWS tri last summer, I started at the back and to the side, and was much calmer.  If I had it to do over I would have just drafted off the girl in front of me and paced with her, she finished about 30 sec. before me and I spent that much time at the ends of the lanes trying to maintain.  I start the TI swim training tomorrow, redemption time.   

2008-03-30 8:33 PM
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Finshed my RR, check it out...

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=108554



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2008-03-31 12:32 AM
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I saw a tri calculator once, haven't been able to find it again.

Basically it said it was almost always better to hammer the bike and limp home, rather than take something off on the bike and save something for the run.

It took your previous bike times and run times and gave you suggested race results both with hammering the bike and saving something on the bike and almost everyone came out better hammering the bike.
2008-03-31 7:15 AM
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Cashmason - 2008-03-31 12:32 AM I saw a tri calculator once, haven't been able to find it again. Basically it said it was almost always better to hammer the bike and limp home, rather than take something off on the bike and save something for the run. It took your previous bike times and run times and gave you suggested race results both with hammering the bike and saving something on the bike and almost everyone came out better hammering the bike.

Morning Cash.  Here's the one I use.  It's pretty conservative (I beat the predicted time on my last Oly by 10 min or so).  Bases a predicted race time on your previous swim/bike/run training PRs and best 2 weeks of volume from the last 6 weeks of training:

www.triathloncalculator.com

EDIT:  Oops...posted from my wife's blog...

 



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2008-03-31 2:51 PM
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Cool, thanks.  It is just the runner in me that doesn't want to bomb the run. 


2008-04-01 3:07 AM
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Thanks, I have that one too.

I just can't find the one again that actually says hammer bike, and don't save anything for the run versus save something on the bike so you can hammer the run.

It actually calculated the difference in your finish times if you left nothing for the run or saved something.
2008-04-02 12:09 AM
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1200 yards tonight.

Kick on side drills, got the hips up, but just about swallowed the whole pool trying to breathe doing that.

Tried my first flip turn while actually doing laps rather than just practicing at the wall.

Result, did plant feet on the wall and push off. Snorted water while upside down, and body position was all catty whumpus at the end. Think I wound up facing the sidewall, but not sure as I stood up and tried to blow the water out of my sinus cavity.
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2008-04-02 2:35 AM
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Don't worry, you'll get it. And when you do, be sure to post some pointers. After too many years out of the pool, I did pretty much the same thing when I tried to do a flip turn. LOL.
2008-04-02 8:58 AM
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Cashmason - 2008-04-02 12:09 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1200 yards tonight. Kick on side drills, got the hips up, but just about swallowed the whole pool trying to breathe doing that. Tried my first flip turn while actually doing laps rather than just practicing at the wall. Result, did plant feet on the wall and push off. Snorted water while upside down, and body position was all catty whumpus at the end. Think I wound up facing the sidewall, but not sure as I stood up and tried to blow the water out of my sinus cavity. __________________

Hey Cash...good luck widdat...

I can do flip turns (poorly), but I choose not to spend my time getting better at them...I guess I haven't really found a reason to practice them for triathlon OW training...I just do a quick open turn...doesn't look as fancy, and I definitely don't get a break at the wall...

BUT...here's an awesome BT video on flip turns:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1388

2008-04-02 2:28 PM
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Hey Cash...good luck widdat...

I can do flip turns (poorly), but I choose not to spend my time getting better at them...I guess I haven't really found a reason to practice them for triathlon OW training...I just do a quick open turn...doesn't look as fancy, and I definitely don't get a break at the wall...

BUT...here's an awesome BT video on flip turns:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1388

 For shame!

The reason to incorporate flippies is to keep a continuous flow in your swim, also helps with being able to breathe in case a big fat wave comes a long during a tri  dunks you under and flips you around...



2008-04-02 2:51 PM
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Hey Cash...good luck widdat...

I can do flip turns (poorly), but I choose not to spend my time getting better at them...I guess I haven't really found a reason to practice them for triathlon OW training...I just do a quick open turn...doesn't look as fancy, and I definitely don't get a break at the wall...

BUT...here's an awesome BT video on flip turns:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1388

 For shame!

The reason to incorporate flippies is to keep a continuous flow in your swim, also helps with being able to breathe in case a big fat wave comes a long during a tri  dunks you under and flips you around...

O.K. Kara......can I wait until next season to start practicing them?   Just didn't want to add any more time to my pool workouts (the 3200 yd workouts are starting to ramp up)...

Open water season is coming up...probably late May in MN......I'll practice them in the lake... 

2008-04-02 6:10 PM
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Love the Canaray Icon with biceps.
2008-04-03 8:19 AM
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Cashmason - 2008-04-02 1:09 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1200 yards tonight. Kick on side drills, got the hips up, but just about swallowed the whole pool trying to breathe doing that. Tried my first flip turn while actually doing laps rather than just practicing at the wall. Result, did plant feet on the wall and push off. Snorted water while upside down, and body position was all catty whumpus at the end. Think I wound up facing the sidewall, but not sure as I stood up and tried to blow the water out of my sinus cavity. __________________

"catty whumpus?"  Haven't heard that one before.  LOL 

2008-04-03 8:49 AM
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Cashmason - 2008-04-02 6:10 PM Love the Canaray Icon with biceps.

It's a sugary 'Peep' Cash...

 

Our challenge team missed our goal by a smidgen...like 1.1%!

The resulting avatar is the penalty for the team not making it to 100%...had to post a Peep avatar...

2008-04-03 6:50 PM
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Sal, I love it.

Gygy, I learned that from friends from your part of of the county. Well at least the South.

Sort of means disorganized, out of control, not where things should be.


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I figured, I like discombobulated. 
2008-04-04 9:23 AM
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Heading to Charleston, SC for the bridge run.  The ankle is not 100%, so I'm planning on doing the run/walk ratios.  And then lots of drinking and relaxing until Sunday.  This is our first weekend away from the kids since Nov. 2006.  Be back Sunday with my RR.  Have a great weekend.   
2008-04-04 10:11 AM
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gygyhawk - 2008-04-04 9:23 AM
 
Heading to Charleston, SC for the bridge run.  The ankle is not 100%, so I'm planning on doing the run/walk ratios.  And then lots of drinking and relaxing until Sunday.  This is our first weekend away from the kids since Nov. 2006.  Be back Sunday with my RR.  Have a great weekend.   

Good luck GyGy!  Take care of that ankle...

I would imagine that with a long anticipated weekend away from the kids, you and hubby won't be seeing much of Charleston

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Hey Cash...good luck widdat...

I can do flip turns (poorly), but I choose not to spend my time getting better at them...I guess I haven't really found a reason to practice them for triathlon OW training...I just do a quick open turn...doesn't look as fancy, and I definitely don't get a break at the wall...

BUT...here's an awesome BT video on flip turns:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1388

 For shame!

The reason to incorporate flippies is to keep a continuous flow in your swim, also helps with being able to breathe in case a big fat wave comes a long during a tri  dunks you under and flips you around...

O.K. Kara......can I wait until next season to start practicing them?   Just didn't want to add any more time to my pool workouts (the 3200 yd workouts are starting to ramp up)...

Open water season is coming up...probably late May in MN......I'll practice them in the lake... 

You got in trou-ble, you got in trou-ble!  May???  Whatddya mean late May?  We'll have already had a couple of OWS tris here by then.  First one's coming up in a few weeks.  Not for me mind you, I try to avoid being chilled!

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gygyhawk - 2008-04-04 10:23 AM
 
Heading to Charleston, SC for the bridge run.  The ankle is not 100%, so I'm planning on doing the run/walk ratios.  And then lots of drinking and relaxing until Sunday.  This is our first weekend away from the kids since Nov. 2006.  Be back Sunday with my RR.  Have a great weekend.   

 

WOW!!!  Good luck in the race but more importantly, have a great time .



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Cashmason - 2008-04-03 7:50 PM Sal, I love it. Gygy, I learned that from friends from your part of of the county. Well at least the South. Sort of means disorganized, out of control, not where things should be.

My mother said it all the time when I was growing up (in Maryland).

 

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Ok, I registered (oficially) for my first tri. it'll be May 31st. it's a poll sprint, so I don't have to worry aboutgetting chilled

Gotta run--pick up my duaghter from school, and then pack for our quick trip to St George for her dance competition. I'll hop back on later if I get a chance. we can't leave town until my hubby's plane lands, so I might have a few minutes later to check in. If not, have a great weekend, everybody!!!

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mila - 2008-04-04 2:20 PM
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Hey Cash...good luck widdat...

I can do flip turns (poorly), but I choose not to spend my time getting better at them...I guess I haven't really found a reason to practice them for triathlon OW training...I just do a quick open turn...doesn't look as fancy, and I definitely don't get a break at the wall...

BUT...here's an awesome BT video on flip turns:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1388

 For shame!

The reason to incorporate flippies is to keep a continuous flow in your swim, also helps with being able to breathe in case a big fat wave comes a long during a tri  dunks you under and flips you around...

O.K. Kara......can I wait until next season to start practicing them?   Just didn't want to add any more time to my pool workouts (the 3200 yd workouts are starting to ramp up)...

Open water season is coming up...probably late May in MN......I'll practice them in the lake... 

You got in trou-ble, you got in trou-ble!  May???  Whatddya mean late May?  We'll have already had a couple of OWS tris here by then.  First one's coming up in a few weeks.  Not for me mind you, I try to avoid being chilled!

There's still ice on the lakes missy...the White Witch just barely left here on March 20th...

Alternative promotional poster of The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe featuring Tilda Swinton as the White Witch.

It is pretty cool though...in the dead of winter, I can do an open frozen water swim in about 27 seconds/100 yds...we all have the amazing ability to walk run on water then...

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givemashot - 2008-04-04 2:34 PM

Ok, I registered (oficially) for my first tri. it'll be May 31st. it's a poll sprint, so I don't have to worry aboutgetting chilled

Gotta run--pick up my duaghter from school, and then pack for our quick trip to St George for her dance competition. I'll hop back on later if I get a chance. we can't leave town until my hubby's plane lands, so I might have a few minutes later to check in. If not, have a great weekend, everybody!!!

St. George?  That's a long way to go for a dance competition...State finals?

Have a safe trip!

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