Dream Chaser's 'Set a Goal and Capture it!' Mentor Group - CLOSED (Page 46)

Congrats Ironman, well done!! You beat last years time and were right there at your goals for S/B/R splits. Must feel great to achieve this on such a meaningful anniversary.

Hahaa, the other racers were bitchin bout how much space it took up in transition, Especially when I had it reclined. 

I don't know about you guys but I'm such a planner.  The plan was to take this week off and just recover but then what???

I keep thinking about the race - it's Race Day +2 now and it's all I've thought about.  Me thinks Bobby is like this but not sure about the rest of you...  I ask myself "Will I try that distance again?" and I think back to how I felt just before the race - that the training was too much and was taking me away from my family such that I started resenting it.  I think of race day and my first gut reactions "I will NEVER do this distance again."  They were the first words out of my mouth when hubby and I were alone.  The bike/swim distances were good but the run is just too long for my liking.  But the bike distance on an olympic is so short for my liking. 

Then I ask myself if I would feel the same if I had delivered the type of race I had planned...?  When I think back to the race - I wasn't having fun on the bike or the run.  Not at all.  I didn't feel that high even once.  I loved the swim.  And that's why I'm doing this.  I'll never know the rush of placing - I'll probably always be a bopper - for me it's pushing myself and competing against myself.  Racing my own race.

I've thought about possible reasons why things might have gone wrong.  In my effort to hydrate for the swim I drank a LOT of water the day before.  So much so that my morning pee was almost clear!  I probably cleaned out my whole system and needed more electrolytes.  Getting a major bike fit probably wasn't the wisest idea either.  Another BTer suggested it results in your using muscles a bit differently which would explain the cramping on the run.  Possibly the side cramp on the bike.  I felt more squished in vs. stretched out.  Anyway.... it's over and so now I have to figure out what's next.  I think I'm leaning to HIM aquabikes, independent runs, long distance cycling and a bunch of olympics.  Or maybe an easier flatter HIM!! 

I tallied up my costs to do this race (entry fees, training visits, doggy daycare while away, resort fees etc) and HOLY COW this race cost me a LOT!!  Shhhhhh don't tell hubby

^ x2  You trained, you showed up and you put in a strong effort - you raced it.  Good job!!

Wanted to say a quick hello and thank everyone for their support.  I was thinking about the group during the race. I will post a in depth write up and race report over the next couple of days.  I'm feeling pretty good at this point.  Long but rewarding day.  As usual I had some obstacles and set backs to overcome throughout the race. 

It was hot and the winds picked up on the bike.  I know it was more difficult than last years race based on the run/walk of most folks. In fact I passed the #1 ranked pro male on the run and later saw him walking with the #2 pro male.  Anyway I survived and beat last years time by about 19 minutes. 

More to follow.

Dream Chaser - 2011-09-13 1:50 PM

kimmax - 2011-09-13 6:44 AM

Dream Chaser - 2011-09-11 7:55 PM

So what 70.3 are you targeting next??

I don't know about you guys but I'm such a planner.  The plan was to take this week off and just recover but then what???

I keep thinking about the race - it's Race Day +2 now and it's all I've thought about.  Me thinks Bobby is like this but not sure about the rest of you...  I ask myself "Will I try that distance again?" and I think back to how I felt just before the race - that the training was too much and was taking me away from my family such that I started resenting it.  I think of race day and my first gut reactions "I will NEVER do this distance again."  They were the first words out of my mouth when hubby and I were alone.  The bike/swim distances were good but the run is just too long for my liking.  But the bike distance on an olympic is so short for my liking. 

Then I ask myself if I would feel the same if I had delivered the type of race I had planned...?  When I think back to the race - I wasn't having fun on the bike or the run.  Not at all.  I didn't feel that high even once.  I loved the swim.  And that's why I'm doing this.  I'll never know the rush of placing - I'll probably always be a bopper - for me it's pushing myself and competing against myself.  Racing my own race.

I've thought about possible reasons why things might have gone wrong.  In my effort to hydrate for the swim I drank a LOT of water the day before.  So much so that my morning pee was almost clear!  I probably cleaned out my whole system and needed more electrolytes.  Getting a major bike fit probably wasn't the wisest idea either.  Another BTer suggested it results in your using muscles a bit differently which would explain the cramping on the run.  Possibly the side cramp on the bike.  I felt more squished in vs. stretched out.  Anyway.... it's over and so now I have to figure out what's next.  I think I'm leaning to HIM aquabikes, independent runs, long distance cycling and a bunch of olympics.  Or maybe an easier flatter HIM!! 

I tallied up my costs to do this race (entry fees, training visits, doggy daycare while away, resort fees etc) and HOLY COW this race cost me a LOT!!  Shhhhhh don't tell hubby

Blah blah blah... you know you can probably beat your time by 20+ minutes at Timberman next year.  Just sayin'   You've got some experience, you'll have time to adjust to the new bike fit, and you'll be able to train slightly smarter and harder by building on the base you layed down this year. 

And don't undestimate yourself.  Another year of training for a 70.3 and I'm willing to bet you have a shot at placing at a local Sprint Race.  Prove me wrong...

And the simple fact that your obsessing over your race... it tells me sub-consciously you want to do it again.  I just know you do    You're going to blink your eyes twice and the kids will be graduating college, blink again and we'll be minding our grandkids.  Don't you want to tell your grand kiddies how Grandma set a PB at Timberman back in the summer of 2012 and pull out the photo album of you  coming out of the water, and hammering on the bike, then crossing the finish line triumphant?  If not for you, Marcia... for your grand kids!

I'm so inspired I just had to sign up for Eagelman next year!!

jmhpsu93 - 2011-09-13 2:49 PM

Dream Chaser - 2011-09-13 1:50 PM

kimmax - 2011-09-13 6:44 AM

Dream Chaser - 2011-09-11 7:55 PM

So what 70.3 are you targeting next??

I don't know about you guys but I'm such a planner.  The plan was to take this week off and just recover but then what???

I keep thinking about the race - it's Race Day +2 now and it's all I've thought about.  Me thinks Bobby is like this but not sure about the rest of you...  I ask myself "Will I try that distance again?" and I think back to how I felt just before the race - that the training was too much and was taking me away from my family such that I started resenting it.  I think of race day and my first gut reactions "I will NEVER do this distance again."  They were the first words out of my mouth when hubby and I were alone.  The bike/swim distances were good but the run is just too long for my liking.  But the bike distance on an olympic is so short for my liking. 

Then I ask myself if I would feel the same if I had delivered the type of race I had planned...?  When I think back to the race - I wasn't having fun on the bike or the run.  Not at all.  I didn't feel that high even once.  I loved the swim.  And that's why I'm doing this.  I'll never know the rush of placing - I'll probably always be a bopper - for me it's pushing myself and competing against myself.  Racing my own race.

I've thought about possible reasons why things might have gone wrong.  In my effort to hydrate for the swim I drank a LOT of water the day before.  So much so that my morning pee was almost clear!  I probably cleaned out my whole system and needed more electrolytes.  Getting a major bike fit probably wasn't the wisest idea either.  Another BTer suggested it results in your using muscles a bit differently which would explain the cramping on the run.  Possibly the side cramp on the bike.  I felt more squished in vs. stretched out.  Anyway.... it's over and so now I have to figure out what's next.  I think I'm leaning to HIM aquabikes, independent runs, long distance cycling and a bunch of olympics.  Or maybe an easier flatter HIM!! 

I tallied up my costs to do this race (entry fees, training visits, doggy daycare while away, resort fees etc) and HOLY COW this race cost me a LOT!!  Shhhhhh don't tell hubby

Blah blah blah... you know you can probably beat your time by 20+ minutes at Timberman next year.  Just sayin'   You've got some experience, you'll have time to adjust to the new bike fit, and you'll be able to train slightly smarter and harder by building on the base you layed down this year. 

And don't undestimate yourself.  Another year of training for a 70.3 and I'm willing to bet you have a shot at placing at a local Sprint Race.  Prove me wrong...

And the simple fact that your obsessing over your race... it tells me sub-consciously you want to do it again.  I just know you do    You're going to blink your eyes twice and the kids will be graduating college, blink again and we'll be minding our grandkids.  Don't you want to tell your grand kiddies how Grandma set a PB at Timberman back in the summer of 2012 and pull out the photo album of you  coming out of the water, and hammering on the bike, then crossing the finish line triumphant?  If not for you, Marcia... for your grand kids!

I'm so inspired I just had to sign up for Eagelman next year!!

HA HA  I hate Bobby because he kind of sort of speaks a bit of the truth!  Race day +2 and I'm thinking I'll train for a local HIM that's noted for being hilly.  It's in July.  If I don't feel up for it I'll switch it to an aqua-bike.  If I do - I'll race it and assess for Muskoka in September but ya... I can't believe they already have the finisher pics up!  Does this look like the face of someone feeling strong and about to run a 1/2 mary????  Check out my clenched teeth in the run!  The only good thing is that my muscles were so locked they look bulging ha ha  And the final snap - just before they dismantled the finishing shute - totally resigned LOL

You could've doubled as one of the Pro Woman the way you are running with that bike, and running on that course!!!

AWESOME PICS!!

yeah, I was up to midnight last night.  Couldn't sleep.  What's up with that?

Injury update...and a solicitation for advice:

I'm up to almost full ROM on my knee, and my leg flexibility in general is probably better than before I got injured.  I'm biking around 70% of my power from last year for 45 minutes, so I'm really getting there cycling.  They closed my pool at the Y to convert to salt water (nice...but bad timing) so swimming's a bit of a hassle right now.  Still haven't run yet, though I'm walking 17:00 miles @ 6-8% incline for a mile right now, and I can probably stretch that distance out pretty quickly.  Still a little pain and swelling, but doc says that's normal and to expect to continue for while.

I've also managed to keep my weight gain to a minimum, and my core is probably as strong as it's ever been.

So...advice time:  what's next? 

I will start my HIM plan for Eagleman late January, which gives me a little over four months (18 weeks by my count) to recover and get my fitness level ready to handle that training load. 

I want to start some kind of training program, but none of the BT ones are designed for injury recovery, and the couch-to-5K will put me pretty far behind where I'll need to be.  The beginner sprint plans are an option, but I don't think they top out high enough on the run or bike (or even the swim, for that matter).  The Oly ones go up too fast.  The winter maintenance plans look promising, though the 4-to-7 looks way too easy, and the 7-to-10 starts out way too hard.

I could also do some kind of hybrid with Jorge's winter cycling program, sprinkled with 4-5 runs/week starting short and progressing, plus some swimming and strength training, but that's going to require a whole bunch of training plan management and honestly, I'd rather be told what to do.

Oh, and I have ZERO race feedback from this year, so I have no idea what to expect, other than I know I'm a much stronger swimmer than my tri last August (yeah, I'm thinking I can beat a 3:02/100 pace somehow...).

My freakin' head hurts thinking about all the permutations.

What say you, Team DC?

Glad to hear you are on the road to recovery!  I actually like the plan you state above.  There is no plan which is one size fits all so you will have to customize it on a daily or weekly basis depending on how fast you recover and how you are feeling. I like the idea of using Jorges cycling plan, running 5 days a week (easy), and swimming 2-3 times a week. My wife is doing her first HIM plan and she is doing a similar variation.  The runs would look something like this 1,2,1,2,1 with a long 3 mile run on the weekend.  Continue that til it is easy then up the mileage 10%.  You increase in mileage depend on your progress. You might start off walking mixed with slow jog til you are able to jog consistently.

I forgot about Jorges plan, thanks for mentioning it, I will have to give that one to the wife.

Good luck on your recovery! 

CLEARLY I'm no pro but I did Jorge's cycling plan last winter and feel it helped make me a stronger faster cyclist.  I'd recommend it.  Then also why not follow the winter maintenance 7-10 hour plan for the swim only and then do as Rene suggested re: run.  The site lets you download different parts of various plans so I'm always butchering them to fit my needs.  You could always drop a non-key workout if it's too much or decrease them all by 10 minutes or something like that.

REALLY glad to hear you are feeling stronger and it'll be a treat to watch you go from the couch to HIM!!!

Too bad there's no "Couch-to-HIM" plan.  I'd be all set!!! 

I'm the LAST person in this group to give training advice so I'll just steal from Rene and Marcia. 

I think flexibility is the key regardless of the plan you select; use your body's feedback to constantly adjust your training based on how your recovery and fitness is progressing. FWIW, I think your fitness will return pretty quickly based on your consistent training prior to the injury and in your rehab.

One other thought, try and be conscious of any overcompensation injury's to another part of your body. You know, like when a pitcher with an ankle injury alters his delivery and blows out his arm. Last thing you want is a new injury popping up!!

Great to hear your healing is progressing so well, Good Luck!!

What is Jorge's plan?  Where can I find it? 

My current plan from now thru the end of the year is a hybrid I came up with on my own, mixing several different plans I got off of this site.  My goal is to maintain swimming and cycling and build upon my run base up to a solid 4 miles by the end of the year. 

I would be interested in jorge's plan too.

Question to for all, so as I wrap up my tri season with the LA Tri next weekend, I'm thinking about HIM next yr.  But I've been told that you would then need to increase training per week about 12-15 hours.  If that's true, I'm not sure i"m able to do it.  I can't sacrifice family time (have my wife take care of two toddler and one baby) so that's holding me back.

so question is what realistically in terms of training for HIM?  For those w/ kids, how have you trained while maintaining family life?