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 2009-07-23 10:05 AM in reply to: #2303609 |
Champion  26509    Sydney |  Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT!4everblue - 2009-07-24 1:04 AM kaqphin - 2009-07-23 4:02 PM For you... anything 4everblue - 2009-07-24 12:59 AM kaqphin - 2009-07-23 3:51 PM My group riding mentor, who owns his own bike shop, has put some on his bike. He had a power meter on too but I haven't seen him since our last ride to ask him what the results were. I want some to psyche my mates out.rkreuser - 2009-07-24 12:48 AM kaqphin - 2009-07-23 10:43 AM Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-24 12:39 AM Huh wiggo has an elliptical crank ring. Pretty interesting... are those more efficient? Its still undecided I think.... They never reallytook off apart from with a few riders... first time I really noticed them was when I think Bobby Julich was using it... It's individual preference. The theory behind them is that they provide you more power at the 'dead spot' in your pedal stroke. They've been around since the 80's, and now the most popular kind are called Q-rings, made by Rotor. Cat's right, it's not been PROVEN that they're more efficient by themselves, because it's a combination of the rider and the rings. If you put them on a dyno with a mechanical test rig, they'd be exactly the same efficiency as a round ring. And with the amount of testing these guys do... Im SURE the ones that use it have reasons for doing to... Either... power readings/Avspeed etc etc OR... its a gut feel thing... it depends on the rider... As rick said its about eliminating the dead spot in the pedal stroke... Has anyone tried one? Would love to know the results once he has some!  Lol - thanks honey! |
| 2009-07-23 10:06 AM in reply to: #2302486 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Anyone know what the rules say if a stupid fan gets in the way of a rider? Like say someone slapped AC in the face and he fell down??? Would he just have to lose time? |
| 2009-07-23 10:06 AM in reply to: #2303611 |
Champion 9060  Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 11:04 AM kaqphin - 2009-07-23 11:03 AM dalessit - 2009-07-24 1:00 AM kaqphin - 2009-07-23 10:59 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-24 12:57 AM Maybe Boy Toy was the right term. I heard he just dropped papers to go back to his Aussie Citizenship. Yup will be back there racing for Aussie next year.... he put the wheels in motion lastyear Not sure if you saw but I posted the other day that he was my wifes new favorite rider. I missed yesterdays thread Say hi to your wife for me! Not going to make inappropriate comment... Haha he is purely her favorite rider based on looks. Though I keep reminding her that she was almost in high school when he was born... |
| 2009-07-23 10:07 AM in reply to: #2302486 |
Expert 724 Simi Valley | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Contador under wiggins - yikes |
| 2009-07-23 10:08 AM in reply to: #2302486 |
Member 23 | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Contador 18 seconds up on Wiggo! dang.. my reaction time never has been the best Edited by KnH_bud 2009-07-23 10:09 AM |
| 2009-07-23 10:08 AM in reply to: #2302486 |
| Pro 4054 yep, | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! |
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Champion 26509 Sydney | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! |
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| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Revbigdog - 2009-07-23 11:07 AM Contador under wiggins - yikes DANG IT!!! COME ON WIGGINS!!! Do it for...where's he from in England again? eta: born in Belgium, raised in London, lives in Lacashire. Edited by GomesBolt 2009-07-23 10:11 AM |
| 2009-07-23 10:09 AM in reply to: #2302486 |
Champion 6627 Rochester Hills, Michigan Gold member | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Bertie just kicked the crap out of the field. He's a knucklehead, but man can he ride a cycle. Andy Schleck is acquitting himself well, even though that GIANT bike he's riding looks like he built it in his garage... |
| 2009-07-23 10:10 AM in reply to: #2303617 |
Master 1718 Loughborough, England | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:06 PM Anyone know what the rules say if a stupid fan gets in the way of a rider? Like say someone slapped AC in the face and he fell down??? Would he just have to lose time? Yep. Someone punched Merckx as he attempted to win a 6th tour, which he didn't manage in the end. |
| 2009-07-23 10:10 AM in reply to: #2303630 |
Champion 9060 Charlottesville, Virginia | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! rkreuser - 2009-07-23 11:09 AM Bertie just kicked the crap out of the field. He's a knucklehead, but man can he ride a cycle. Andy Schleck is acquitting himself well, even though that GIANT bike he's riding looks like he built it in his garage... yeah 18 seconds faster at the checkpoint. |
| 2009-07-23 10:11 AM in reply to: #2303593 |
Master 1688 ALSAGER, CHESHIRE. UK | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:00 PM If I said Wayne Rooney or Christiano Rinaldo would you know who I meant? That NFL Monday night commentator Tony Kornheiser would be my first American.4everblue - 2009-07-23 10:54 AM Do you not like the little matador? I have a game I play where I ask people if they could slap one celebrity across the face as hard as they wanted, who would it be. For me, it has long been Bob Costas. I would slap the vocabulary out of that little midget. AC is quickly climbing on the list... Who for you? Man Wiggo is blowing-away everyone. 29 sec on LA??? |
| 2009-07-23 10:11 AM in reply to: #2302486 |
| Pro 4054 yep, | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Lance has really slowed down. |
| 2009-07-23 10:13 AM in reply to: #2303390 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! kaqphin - 2009-07-23 10:13 AM Wouldn't surprise me that much. He looks tired. I wonder if this is Georges last tour? Since he is refusing to see a doc about the collarbone in case they stop him riding... and he wants to finish the tour... Thoughts? |
| 2009-07-23 10:13 AM in reply to: #2303638 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:11 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:00 PM If I said Wayne Rooney or Christiano Rinaldo would you know who I meant? That NFL Monday night commentator Tony Kornheiser would be my first American.4everblue - 2009-07-23 10:54 AM Do you not like the little matador? I have a game I play where I ask people if they could slap one celebrity across the face as hard as they wanted, who would it be. For me, it has long been Bob Costas. I would slap the vocabulary out of that little midget. AC is quickly climbing on the list... Who for you? Man Wiggo is blowing-away everyone. 29 sec on LA??? Of course I know. I'm portuguese by ethnicity. But I can definitely see why someone wants to slap the stupid off Ronaldo's face. As for Kornheiser. I met him in the Crown Room in Atlanta and I actually think he's a really nice guy. He even got me a refil on my jack and coke. |
| 2009-07-23 10:13 AM in reply to: #2303625 |
Master 1688 ALSAGER, CHESHIRE. UK | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 4:08 PM I've just got to say this & upset a few. Who cares!are we thinking lance will jump into 3rd?
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| 2009-07-23 10:13 AM in reply to: #2303638 |
Champion 26509 Sydney | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! 4everblue - 2009-07-24 1:11 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:00 PM If I said Wayne Rooney or Christiano Rinaldo would you know who I meant? That NFL Monday night commentator Tony Kornheiser would be my first American.4everblue - 2009-07-23 10:54 AM Do you not like the little matador? I have a game I play where I ask people if they could slap one celebrity across the face as hard as they wanted, who would it be. For me, it has long been Bob Costas. I would slap the vocabulary out of that little midget. AC is quickly climbing on the list... Who for you? Man Wiggo is blowing-away everyone. 29 sec on LA??? Me! Me! Iknow who they are! |
| 2009-07-23 10:13 AM in reply to: #2303617 |
Champion 6627 Rochester Hills, Michigan Gold member | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 11:06 AM Anyone know what the rules say if a stupid fan gets in the way of a rider? Like say someone slapped AC in the face and he fell down??? Would he just have to lose time? Whoa! Safe to say AC shouldn't ride by you and glance sidewards?  Fans are part of the course. There have been instances in regular stages where fans get in the way...there was a famous mountain stage where a photog didn't get out of the way fast enough...race officials didn't intervene, but the guy he was riding with up the mountain stopped and waited. In this tour, I think in an early stage (maybe stage 4 or so) a fan got in the way of Vandevelde and he fell. The race official 'neutralised' the race to allow for all the affected riders to catch up. Never seen it happen in a time trial...worst case, you lose time. Best case, I'd imagine, is appealing to the race jury and having them 'adjust' your time...although I don't know if there's precedent there. |
| 2009-07-23 10:15 AM in reply to: #2303647 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! rkreuser - 2009-07-23 11:13 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 11:06 AM Anyone know what the rules say if a stupid fan gets in the way of a rider? Like say someone slapped AC in the face and he fell down??? Would he just have to lose time? Whoa! Safe to say AC shouldn't ride by you and glance sidewards? Fans are part of the course. There have been instances in regular stages where fans get in the way...there was a famous mountain stage where a photog didn't get out of the way fast enough...race officials didn't intervene, but the guy he was riding with up the mountain stopped and waited. In this tour, I think in an early stage (maybe stage 4 or so) a fan got in the way of Vandevelde and he fell. The race official 'neutralised' the race to allow for all the affected riders to catch up. Never seen it happen in a time trial...worst case, you lose time. Best case, I'd imagine, is appealing to the race jury and having them 'adjust' your time...although I don't know if there's precedent there. I watched that stage from a hotel in Austria minutes before my sister's wedding. My bro in law and I had to run to the church after that stage. |
| 2009-07-23 10:16 AM in reply to: #2303642 |
Master 1688 ALSAGER, CHESHIRE. UK | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:13 PM Nice to know your affections can be bought so cheaply. Even Cat has to be bought TWO drinks 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:11 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:00 PM If I said Wayne Rooney or Christiano Rinaldo would you know who I meant? That NFL Monday night commentator Tony Kornheiser would be my first American.4everblue - 2009-07-23 10:54 AM Do you not like the little matador? I have a game I play where I ask people if they could slap one celebrity across the face as hard as they wanted, who would it be. For me, it has long been Bob Costas. I would slap the vocabulary out of that little midget. AC is quickly climbing on the list... Who for you? Man Wiggo is blowing-away everyone. 29 sec on LA??? Of course I know. I'm portuguese by ethnicity. But I can definitely see why someone wants to slap the stupid off Ronaldo's face. As for Kornheiser. I met him in the Crown Room in Atlanta and I actually think he's a really nice guy. He even got me a refil on my jack and coke. |
| 2009-07-23 10:16 AM in reply to: #2303643 |
| Pro 4054 yep, | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:13 AM Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 4:08 PM I've just got to say this & upset a few. Who cares!are we thinking lance will jump into 3rd?
I care somewhat to show people who know NOTHING abotu this sport actually support him. It bugs me all the time to see on ESPN and saying he's losing. They don't understand the strategy at all. |
| 2009-07-23 10:18 AM in reply to: #2303653 |
Champion 26509 Sydney | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! 4everblue - 2009-07-24 1:16 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:13 PM Nice to know your affections can be bought so cheaply. Even Cat has to be bought TWO drinks 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:11 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:00 PM If I said Wayne Rooney or Christiano Rinaldo would you know who I meant? That NFL Monday night commentator Tony Kornheiser would be my first American.4everblue - 2009-07-23 10:54 AM Do you not like the little matador? I have a game I play where I ask people if they could slap one celebrity across the face as hard as they wanted, who would it be. For me, it has long been Bob Costas. I would slap the vocabulary out of that little midget. AC is quickly climbing on the list... Who for you? Man Wiggo is blowing-away everyone. 29 sec on LA??? Of course I know. I'm portuguese by ethnicity. But I can definitely see why someone wants to slap the stupid off Ronaldo's face. As for Kornheiser. I met him in the Crown Room in Atlanta and I actually think he's a really nice guy. He even got me a refil on my jack and coke. Or if its AM.... just one coffee |
| 2009-07-23 10:19 AM in reply to: #2303654 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 11:16 AM 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:13 AM Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 4:08 PM I've just got to say this & upset a few. Who cares!are we thinking lance will jump into 3rd?
I care somewhat to show people who know NOTHING abotu this sport actually support him. It bugs me all the time to see on ESPN and saying he's losing. They don't understand the strategy at all. I think a lot of cancer survivors and families-of care too. He's riding for free man. I think perfect result would be Wiggo #1 because he's really putting-out, Lance #2. Contador DNF-slapped in the face... But that won't happen...today...I'm in Florida, not Annecy... |
| 2009-07-23 10:21 AM in reply to: #2303656 |
| Austin, Texas or Jupiter, Florida | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! kaqphin - 2009-07-23 11:18 AM 4everblue - 2009-07-24 1:16 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:13 PM Nice to know your affections can be bought so cheaply. Even Cat has to be bought TWO drinks 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:11 AM GomesBolt - 2009-07-23 4:00 PM If I said Wayne Rooney or Christiano Rinaldo would you know who I meant? That NFL Monday night commentator Tony Kornheiser would be my first American.4everblue - 2009-07-23 10:54 AM Do you not like the little matador? I have a game I play where I ask people if they could slap one celebrity across the face as hard as they wanted, who would it be. For me, it has long been Bob Costas. I would slap the vocabulary out of that little midget. AC is quickly climbing on the list... Who for you? Man Wiggo is blowing-away everyone. 29 sec on LA??? Of course I know. I'm portuguese by ethnicity. But I can definitely see why someone wants to slap the stupid off Ronaldo's face. As for Kornheiser. I met him in the Crown Room in Atlanta and I actually think he's a really nice guy. He even got me a refil on my jack and coke. Or if its AM.... just one coffee In my defense, it was my 2nd drink. See, that's how you do it, you get the 2nd one. Besides, Crown Room drinks are free... Anyone else have a slap-preference? |
| 2009-07-23 10:21 AM in reply to: #2303654 |
Master 1688 ALSAGER, CHESHIRE. UK | Subject: RE: TDF STAGE 18 - ITT DISCUSSION - SPOILER ALERT! Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 4:16 PM I'm missing my man Tom & my new mate Kenny van Hummel. I think I'm the only one who cares about them. 4everblue - 2009-07-23 11:13 AM Dlaxman31 - 2009-07-23 4:08 PM I've just got to say this & upset a few. Who cares!are we thinking lance will jump into 3rd?
I care somewhat to show people who know NOTHING abotu this sport actually support him. It bugs me all the time to see on ESPN and saying he's losing. They don't understand the strategy at all. |
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