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2012-10-30 11:28 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:24 PM
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GomesBolt - 2012-10-30 6:24 AM

Well it WAS the National Guard afterall...

I agree though, that scene could've been done a few different ways where he earned their trust and then killed them or poisoned them or something. 

As soon as I saw how the trucks were parked I knew they were going to have the governor kill them all. I mean really so you are all trained solders in the Z apocalypse who just had your whole base overrun and what do you do? You park randomly in an open field with no kind of defensive formation? Ok I know I am ranting but that was just super lame to me but I still have hopes for the show this season.

I'm with you.  I think my 13 year old daughter could come up with a better defensive position than they were in.  Even after the Governor shot the one guy they were all just standing there waiting to get shot.  um yeah.

Yeah and his slo-mo drawing of the gun didn't tip him off. And the rest of the guys just stood there and waited to get shot. Oh except the one guy who hid and then ran. Riiiiiight. But again, if that's the least realistic thing you've found about that episode, well ...

I don't think it's that unrealistic.  National Guard guys are freaked out.  Walkers just took out their encampent and they barely got out.  They've been waiting 2 days for word from the Lt.  They're scared an unsure.  They think any attack would be coming from walkers, not people, and so I'm not shocked that they could so easily be taken by surprised.  In battle, confusion and indecision can cause enough delay to result in an catastrophic end.

 

I guess the issue I'm having is that they weren't in any sort of defensive position. Now, digging foxholes or trenches wouldn't be necessary, and in fact might be bad, but any good military commander would've had his guys in a defensive position where they could fight then fall back (if necessary) and continue to fight in the event some walkers came upon them. They'd been out there for about a year, you'd think by now they'd have some experience defending themselves, nevermind the fact that they're a military unit.

Good point.  One strand of concertina wire would stop a whole horde of zombies.  2 strings and they're stuck there until you walk-up and jab them in the eye.

They didn't survive this long by being stupid.  But the show wasn't written by a veteran...

 



2012-10-30 11:44 AM
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Fokker416 - 2012-10-29 7:45 PM

A new villain who likes to stare at heads in a pyramid of fish tanks?  

What's with the fish tanks?  Is that something that gets answered later or did we lose something when the comic got translated into tv? 

 

The only thing that was missed was the governor saying 'Sigh.... 57 channels and nothings on'

probably because of the royalties.

2012-10-30 12:37 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-10-30 12:24 PM

I guess the issue I'm having is that they weren't in any sort of defensive position. Now, digging foxholes or trenches wouldn't be necessary, and in fact might be bad, but any good military commander would've had his guys in a defensive position where they could fight then fall back (if necessary) and continue to fight in the event some walkers came upon them. They'd been out there for about a year, you'd think by now they'd have some experience defending themselves, nevermind the fact that they're a military unit.

True-dat, but...  They were parked in open ground with 360-degree visibility out to about 100+ yards for a standing individual.  More than enough time and ability to spot slow, incoming walkers.  The only defensive position needed is to see the coming from far off enough, know their numbers and have an escape route.  With vehicle-mounted 50-cals and the ammo they had, it would take a herd of several hundred to overwelm them.  They were positioned fairly well... for the expected attacker.  (My case in point - they were looking out for walkers, not human snipers in the tall grass.)

 

 

2012-11-04 7:48 PM
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13 minutes to show time. Got the popcorn and snacks ready. Children are watching a kids movie in another room. I hate the Governor.
2012-11-04 8:24 PM
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Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?
2012-11-04 9:28 PM
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T-Dog and Lori in 1 episode!?!!?!? It must be the coming of the real apocalypse


2012-11-04 10:59 PM
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Wow. Damn, that was an intense episode! Maybe the best one so far.
2012-11-04 11:13 PM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

2012-11-05 8:02 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

 

It's messed up and crazy that Carl is the one that had to shoot her.

Lose two members, gained two new ones.  Groups dynamics changing a bit?

2012-11-05 8:28 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

 

It's messed up and crazy that Carl is the one that had to shoot her.

Lose two members, gained two new ones.  Groups dynamics changing a bit?



Seriously, Lori was starting to get on my nerves. I only wish she would've woken up and bit Carl so they could put him out of his misery. That kid gets on my last friggin' nerve. And now they have a baby? Great. Just great.
2012-11-05 8:43 AM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-05 8:28 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

 

It's messed up and crazy that Carl is the one that had to shoot her.

Lose two members, gained two new ones.  Groups dynamics changing a bit?

Seriously, Lori was starting to get on my nerves. I only wish she would've woken up and bit Carl so they could put him out of his misery. That kid gets on my last friggin' nerve. And now they have a baby? Great. Just great.

I'm with you 100% on that. I just believe since they didn't show Lori getting shot she is still alive or will turn into a walker. I don't think Carl had the balls to shot her in the head.   My prediction, she's a walker down the road and confronts Rick.



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2012-11-05 8:47 AM
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Iowaman - 2012-11-05 8:43 AM

mr2tony - 2012-11-05 8:28 AM
cgregg - 2012-11-05 8:02 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

 

It's messed up and crazy that Carl is the one that had to shoot her.

Lose two members, gained two new ones.  Groups dynamics changing a bit?

Seriously, Lori was starting to get on my nerves. I only wish she would've woken up and bit Carl so they could put him out of his misery. That kid gets on my last friggin' nerve. And now they have a baby? Great. Just great.

I'm with you 100% on that. I just believe since they didn't show Lori getting shot she is still alive or will turn into a walker. I don't think Carl had the balls to shot her in the head.   My prediction, she's a walker down the road and confronts Rick.



Ooooh I like that scenario.

I don't think I'd have a problem doing that -- they're already dead. And they're trying to make me dead. Family member or not, if they're the walking dead, they're getting a bullet to the skull.
2012-11-05 8:51 AM
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Iowaman - 2012-11-05 9:43 AM
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Artemis - 2012-11-05 12:13 AM

GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

 

It's messed up and crazy that Carl is the one that had to shoot her.

Lose two members, gained two new ones.  Groups dynamics changing a bit?

Seriously, Lori was starting to get on my nerves. I only wish she would've woken up and bit Carl so they could put him out of his misery. That kid gets on my last friggin' nerve. And now they have a baby? Great. Just great.

I'm with you 100% on that. I just believe since they didn't show Lori getting shot she is still alive or will turn into a walker. I don't think Carl had the balls to shot her in the head.   My prediction, she's a walker down the road and confronts Rick.

 

Typical ex-wife (well, an ex- now)... showing up to ruin your day with no notice.

2012-11-05 9:19 AM
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Do I have to be the culturally insensitive one to point out the fact that they couldn't have more than 1 brother in the group? They add the new prisoner, so they had to kill T-Dog?  What's up with that?

If another asian shows-up and wants to join, Glenn should just shoot him on the spot...

As for the Governor,  I was wondering what could go wrong? I mean he obviously cleared-out that town, set-up some defenses, he's giving people a good life "sitting pretty at the end of the world".

So he killed some national guardsmen and likes to have aquariums of zombie heads, but think of the good he's doing... He's like the Lance Armstrong of "The Walking Dead."

2012-11-05 9:22 AM
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GomesBolt - 2012-11-05 9:19 AM

Do I have to be the culturally insensitive one to point out the fact that they couldn't have more than 1 brother in the group? They add the new prisoner, so they had to kill T-Dog?  What's up with that?

If another asian shows-up and wants to join, Glenn should just shoot him on the spot...

As for the Governor,  I was wondering what could go wrong? I mean he obviously cleared-out that town, set-up some defenses, he's giving people a good life "sitting pretty at the end of the world".

So he killed some national guardsmen and likes to have aquariums of zombie heads, but think of the good he's doing... He's like the Lance Armstrong of "The Walking Dead."



OK I admit we were discussing that last night. They went from T, whom everybody loved, to the new black guy. Why couldn't they have them both on at the same time? It seems kind of strange.

And the bit about Glen made me laugh. It's funny cuz it's true.
2012-11-05 9:01 PM
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mr2tony - 2012-11-05 7:22 AM
GomesBolt - 2012-11-05 9:19 AM

Do I have to be the culturally insensitive one to point out the fact that they couldn't have more than 1 brother in the group? They add the new prisoner, so they had to kill T-Dog?  What's up with that?

If another asian shows-up and wants to join, Glenn should just shoot him on the spot...

As for the Governor,  I was wondering what could go wrong? I mean he obviously cleared-out that town, set-up some defenses, he's giving people a good life "sitting pretty at the end of the world".

So he killed some national guardsmen and likes to have aquariums of zombie heads, but think of the good he's doing... He's like the Lance Armstrong of "The Walking Dead."

OK I admit we were discussing that last night. They went from T, whom everybody loved, to the new black guy. Why couldn't they have them both on at the same time? It seems kind of strange. And the bit about Glen made me laugh. It's funny cuz it's true.

Hey Glen are you comming?



2012-11-06 5:42 AM
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Iowaman - 2012-11-05 9:43 AM
mr2tony - 2012-11-05 8:28 AM
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Artemis - 2012-11-05 12:13 AM

GomesBolt - 2012-11-04 9:24 PM Oh man! Why T-Dog?!?

I know! I was way more upset about T-Dog than Lori.

 

It's messed up and crazy that Carl is the one that had to shoot her.

Lose two members, gained two new ones.  Groups dynamics changing a bit?

Seriously, Lori was starting to get on my nerves. I only wish she would've woken up and bit Carl so they could put him out of his misery. That kid gets on my last friggin' nerve. And now they have a baby? Great. Just great.

I'm with you 100% on that. I just believe since they didn't show Lori getting shot she is still alive or will turn into a walker. I don't think Carl had the balls to shot her in the head.   My prediction, she's a walker down the road and confronts Rick.

^^This.  They would have definitely showed him poping mama if that was the end of that story line, but they didn't so she'll be back - unfortunately.  Maybe he'll cut her arms off and her lower jaw and drag her around..lol

2012-11-06 9:31 AM
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t-dog was on the talking dead show later that night with a exec. sad. but he was starting to act like a little b anyway.
2012-11-06 10:30 AM
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Now that they don't need Herschel, shouldn't they just put him out to pasture? He's taking up valuable resources.
2012-11-06 11:04 AM
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That was a hard episode to watch. I hate having T-Dog die. Poor guy. Next to Glenn he was my favorite character, though rarely seen. I am getting to like Darrel more though. Merle is going to be an interesting character. Still a mean, angry prejudiced man but now he has someone he owes loyalty to. If he ever meets up with Rick though I see it going badly for one of them, especially if it comes down to Darrel making a choice.

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Don't know if this has been posted here:



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Very true. Love it.
2012-11-07 6:28 AM
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I don't think Lori is coming back. She was cut open from the C-section and she's wearing no pants. I think the pants-less, guts-spilling-out Lori zombie would be a little too much.
2012-11-07 8:17 AM
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Fitzy - 2012-11-07 6:28 AM I don't think Lori is coming back. She was cut open from the C-section and she's wearing no pants. I think the pants-less, guts-spilling-out Lori zombie would be a little too much.

 

LOL, I hadn't thought about that.  Yep, don't wanna see it.  My guess is that even if Carl didn't shoot her in the head, she will get eaten by some of the other walkers roaming around in there.

2012-11-07 8:25 AM
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Is it wrong to ask why they didn't cap Lori BEFORE they started cutting her open?  

That way she doesn't go through the pain of having a c-section while she's still alive and Maggie doesn't have the mental trauma that she's hurting Lori.  I know I'm probably missing something medical, but if they're going to do a chop shop c-section anyways where there's no hope that the mom is going to survive - why not take her out of the picture before starting the operation? 

I'm sad T-Dog is gone, I wish the kids were gone instead of Lori (no matter how annoying she is), and more screen time for Daryl please! 

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