Lance on Oprah (Page 5)

I don't care.  He never tested postivie.  I will never believe he used PED's.

They did a little blurb on our most popular local radio station's morning show today regarding the news that he taped the interview and confessed.  It's really funny to hear what people who know nothing and care nothing about the sport think.  

The DJ basically said, "who cares, it's just cycling".  Then a few more of the DJ's said, leave the poor guy alone, go after the "real" criminals out there in the world.  

One of the other DJ's said he's lost respect for him since he dragged others through the mud to protect his lie but the others didn't necessarily agree.

In the end they all seemed to agree that beating cancer and influencing millions of donation dollars to be spent on cancer research was more important than what he did wrong in the racing world.

I wonder if this will really be how the general public views everything once the cards are on the table.

Couldn't believe all the time Mike & Mike devoted to the story this morning on their ESPN show.  They seldom cover anything other than the mainstream stick & ball sports.   I guess it takes something like this to get cycling into the mainstream media.

I think the only thing for certain coming out of this deal is that some attorneys are going to be making a lot of money over the next few years.  That plus Oprah's struggling cable network is going to get a ratings boost on Thursday &  Friday.

As much as I've admired LA's accomplishments over the years, my feeling is that whatever he does now is going to motivated by self-interest, not by any magnanimous desire to clean up doping in cycling.

Mark

Yeah, there is THAT....don't overestimate what the majority of people think about cycling or triathlon....they couldn't care less.

Leegoocrap - 2013-01-15 10:30 AM

That's a very, very sad picture for a number of reasons.

Dunno if anyone else read this, but there's a blurb on NBC sports that tried to figure out what's really going on, meaning why is he supposedly negotiating with the USADA. Speculation he's gonna name everyone, which may finally lead to a cleanup of cycling as a whole.

I think Mike Lupica put it best (and I've thought this same thing for a while, too) that this turned into a Ponzi scheme. I'm sure it started out as "everyone else is doing it" excuse to "holy sh*t, I can't admit to it or Livestrong will die." I don't know. I hope somehow, some way, something good comes from all of this.

And even if he did, so was everyone else and he was still better at lying, cheating, intimidating, and extorting than anyone else. He also worked much harder on his public image and won the PR game with superior legal challenges.

I just think it is a testament to all those little kids with cancer of what they can achieve with the right doctors, a yellow bracelet, sponsorship, and lots of money.

That's a joke, right?

That or I've got bad news... Santa isn't real.

Except his money was not spent on research... but ya, who cares about details when you have a morning show to do.

In the end the only thing will force cycling to clean itself up will be money, or rather the lack of it from all the sponsors who bail out.

Mark 

dcomiskey - 2013-01-15 9:41 AM

Leegoocrap - 2013-01-15 10:30 AM

 

That's a very, very sad picture for a number of reasons.

Dunno if anyone else read this, but there's a blurb on NBC sports that tried to figure out what's really going on, meaning why is he supposedly negotiating with the USADA. Speculation he's gonna name everyone, which may finally lead to a cleanup of cycling as a whole.

I think Mike Lupica put it best (and I've thought this same thing for a while, too) that this turned into a Ponzi scheme. I'm sure it started out as "everyone else is doing it" excuse to "holy sh*t, I can't admit to it or Livestrong will die." I don't know. I hope somehow, some way, something good comes from all of this.

No, it's like every other convicted felon sitting behind bars saying... OK, well now that I am convicted and don't like my sentence... let's talk.

He had his chance.

I think we can all agree that the 81% of the donations that go to programs, education and grants is for a good cause.  And that while it is terrible he cheated, the Livestrong foundation and the hope that cancer patients got from his story were definitely a great bi-product.  It is sad and un-commendable that he cheated but some good things did come out of it and hopefully the good things he did won't be ruined by the bad things he did.

This.  Based on his history, how can we think otherwise?

This.

We can dream, can't we?

Sometimes hope is all we have.

Although hope was the most dangerous thing in Pandora's box...

Truth be told - the TDF has not been nearly as exciting in the past few years. 

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion.  But it is was NOT a level playing field in cycling.  Not EVERYONE doped and there were 'victims' in this.  It's OK if you don't care about them, but it seem just that somebody does.  People don't have to overlook the good things he did.  But they should rightfully  focus on the fact there were many things they did not realize he was doing at the same time that were downright disgusting (lying, cheating, slandering, bullying, etc.).  Playing the 'cancer' card does not give him a free pass to have been an @$$.

Sadly if you think he did these thing and no one else did, you are fooling yourself.  It is pretty obvious that the majority of Cyclists were doping, lying, cheating, slandering and bullying if they could.  And, he wasn't playing the 'cancer' card, he was playing the winning card.  

Let me know where I said he was the only one.