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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 10:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) Sometimes parental separation is good for the kids, why would I feel bad about that? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2013-04-11 12:51 PM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 10:49 AM Sometimes parental separation is good for the kids, why would I feel bad about that? mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) I don't know why you'd feel bad about it either. Edited by KateTri1 2013-04-11 12:04 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:58 AM mr2tony - 2013-04-11 12:51 PM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 10:49 AM Sometimes parental separation is good for the kids, why would I feel bad about that? mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) I don't know why you'd feel bad about it either. So it is possible to feel good about how parental separation impacts kids? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2013-04-11 1:17 PM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:58 AM So it is possible to feel good about how parental separation impacts kids?mr2tony - 2013-04-11 12:51 PM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 10:49 AM Sometimes parental separation is good for the kids, why would I feel bad about that? mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) I don't know why you'd feel bad about it either. I think it is possible to "feel" anything about any given situation based on one's perspective. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2013-04-11 2:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? Wouldn't it depend on the parent(s)? |
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Sneaky Slow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? If two is better than one, how about three? Or four? Maybe Joseph Smith had it right after all. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? in my opinion, the number of parents is IRRELEVANT. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:13 PM tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? If two is better than one, how about three? Or four? Maybe Joseph Smith had it right after all. Next thing you know you'll be letting your toaster be your kid's parent. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mehaner - 2013-04-11 2:16 PM tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? in my opinion, the number of parents is IRRELEVANT. In our family the number of parents is NOT irrelevant. In fact, we couldn't do as good a job as we try to do with our kids if we didn't have each other, and they didn't have the benefit of both our perspective's, our experiences, our time, and our income. I don't have any reason to believe one person can't be a great parent and raise great kids.....it happens all the time, and those experiences form opinions. I bet if you asked our kids which would be better, one parent or two, you'd get a resounding vote for two.....just another formed opinion. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2013-04-11 2:10 PM tuwood - 2013-04-11 2:08 PM Wouldn't it depend on the parent(s)? mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? i laughed when I read that, but you are correct that it does depend. I'll even use my own anecdotal example. My parents got a divorce when I was 5 and my sister was 7. I lived with my dad, and my sister lived with my mom. My Dad was very neglectful and I pretty much ran the hood all day/night, but he was very loving and kind. My mother was pretty over bearing and very critical of my sister. My sister grew up to be a very bad alcoholic and worked in a strip club for many years. Had her kids taken away by the state and is still to this day in a very rough spot. Both of us with a lot of the same DNA, had two very different experiences with the single parent upbringing. On the flip side, I'm sure all of us can come up with examples of people we know who were jacked up but had both parents together. So, yes it's a generalization that two parents are better than one and it's most certainly not true in all cases. However, I contend that statistically children are far better off if their parents stay together and have a healthy loving relationship. Parents that hate each other staying together doesn't help anyone. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2013-04-11 2:45 PM mr2tony - 2013-04-11 2:10 PM tuwood - 2013-04-11 2:08 PM Wouldn't it depend on the parent(s)? mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? i laughed when I read that, but you are correct that it does depend. I'll even use my own anecdotal example. My parents got a divorce when I was 5 and my sister was 7. I lived with my dad, and my sister lived with my mom. My Dad was very neglectful and I pretty much ran the hood all day/night, but he was very loving and kind. My mother was pretty over bearing and very critical of my sister. My sister grew up to be a very bad alcoholic and worked in a strip club for many years. Had her kids taken away by the state and is still to this day in a very rough spot. Both of us with a lot of the same DNA, had two very different experiences with the single parent upbringing. On the flip side, I'm sure all of us can come up with examples of people we know who were jacked up but had both parents together. So, yes it's a generalization that two parents are better than one and it's most certainly not true in all cases. However, I contend that statistically children are far better off if their parents stay together and have a healthy loving relationship. Parents that hate each other staying together doesn't help anyone. OK show me the statistics! |
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Sneaky Slow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2013-04-11 3:17 PM tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:13 PM Next thing you know you'll be letting your toaster be your kid's parent. tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? If two is better than one, how about three? Or four? Maybe Joseph Smith had it right after all. And the problem with that would be.... ??? My kids are *not* happy with me when I burn their toast. Lightly-browned toast = well-adjusted adults. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:48 PM mr2tony - 2013-04-11 3:17 PM tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:13 PM Next thing you know you'll be letting your toaster be your kid's parent. tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? If two is better than one, how about three? Or four? Maybe Joseph Smith had it right after all. And the problem with that would be.... ??? My kids are *not* happy with me when I burn their toast. Lightly-browned toast = well-adjusted adults. Nevermind! NEVERMIND! Edited by mr2tony 2013-04-11 2:49 PM |
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Sneaky Slow ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2013-04-11 3:49 PM tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:48 PM Nevermind! NEVERMIND! mr2tony - 2013-04-11 3:17 PM tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:13 PM Next thing you know you'll be letting your toaster be your kid's parent. tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? If two is better than one, how about three? Or four? Maybe Joseph Smith had it right after all. And the problem with that would be.... ??? My kids are *not* happy with me when I burn their toast. Lightly-browned toast = well-adjusted adults. haha. I saw that. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mehaner - 2013-04-11 3:16 PM again there may be very good reasons why a single parent household is better in any given situation but on the whole it does matter. The gender of the single parent also has some bearing.tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? in my opinion, the number of parents is IRRELEVANT. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mr2tony - 2013-04-11 2:47 PM OK show me the statistics! That's easy. Just google statistics of kids with two parents and you'll have hundreds of sites to read. Now please don't misconstrue this into an all or none that every kid is better off with two parents and all kids raised by single parents are losers, because that's not true, and I'm not saying that. here's a few with some of the stats/summaries. http://www.kn2p.org/resources:statistics Statistics reveal stark challenges for children raised in one-parent households http://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
Father Factor in Education - Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:13 PM mr2tony - 2013-04-11 2:47 PM OK show me the statistics! That's easy. Just google statistics of kids with two parents and you'll have hundreds of sites to read. Now please don't misconstrue this into an all or none that every kid is better off with two parents and all kids raised by single parents are losers, because that's not true, and I'm not saying that. here's a few with some of the stats/summaries. http://www.kn2p.org/resources:statistics Statistics reveal stark challenges for children raised in one-parent households http://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
Father Factor in Education - Fatherless children are twice as likely to drop out of school.
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![]() | ![]() tealeaf - 2013-04-11 2:13 PM tuwood - 2013-04-11 3:08 PM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:16 AM KateTri1 - 2013-04-11 11:49 AM mehaner - 2013-04-11 11:11 AM oh, yeah, i was judging. Since there is no red font, I assume you mean this in a literal sense. I can see how both of you would have read his comments. But isn't it possible to feel bad about how parental separation impacts kids.. and also see that this country's high rate of divorce can have an effect on our young people, but also recognize that it's not the only issue that we deal with in education? (coz I think the original video specifically spoke about needing more support for education) imagine if my parents HADN'T divorced, and i continued to watch my dad beat the crap out of my mom while growing up? imagine the impact THAT would have had on my sister and i! i never even COMMENTED on the original thread, just tony's terribly narrow-minded sweeping statement that single moms are not capable of raising good human beings. Was that really necessary? I also never even came close to saying what you're accusing me of and take offense. So, in your opinion are kids better off being raised with one parent or two? If two is better than one, how about three? Or four? Maybe Joseph Smith had it right after all. That's exactly what the lady was saying in the video...except she was implying that kids need roughly 228 million parents. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() everybody get back to work and start being productive people in the workplace! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I wonder if they have the statistics regarding areas they are in and how big a % difference they are between the single parent/divorced vs. other married couples in the same area or same school. I bet the % would be smaller numbers. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Wow! I thought the Gun Thread was rough......and they pulled the Gun Thread. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Big Appa - 2013-04-11 4:38 PM I wonder if they have the statistics regarding areas they are in and how big a % difference they are between the single parent/divorced vs. other married couples in the same area or same school. I bet the % would be smaller numbers. Read the census brief; I believe it will answer the question you are trying to ask. Edited by trinnas 2013-04-11 4:29 PM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I sure nobody get too upset when they watch the Exxon/Mobil commercial that keeps airing on the Masters. I think there might be one or two democrats watching the coverage and it mentions "investing in education"! OH THE HUMANITY! Edited by blbriley 2013-04-11 5:28 PM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() trinnas - 2013-04-11 1:12 PM http://esr.oxfordjournals.org/content/10/2/173.abstract http://www.census.gov/prod/3/97pubs/cb-9701.pdf again there may be very good reasons why a single parent household is better in any given situation but on the whole it does matter. The gender of the single parent also has some bearing. Actually, no. It may be better economically, but that does not necessarily mean better, in general. |
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