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![]() axteraa - 2013-01-18 12:44 PM ChrisM - 2013-01-18 6:30 PM bzgl40 - 2013-01-18 2:29 PM ChrisM - 2013-01-18 3:28 PM Also, I think it's been touched on before, but I saw a significant increase in power in aero over a similar feeling effort on the horns. That would make sense though right? Cause you get fit in that position so it is the most ideal position on that bike. And fit can affect power? Yeah, but I was kind of shocked at the number, like 30+ watts (total out of my a$$ number guess based on what I was looking at in the middle of my suffering) If your ability to do simple math in the middle of a trainer session is as good as mine, I wouldn't trust that number much. I find I can generate more power in aero as well, until I start getting really tired and my breathing gets laboured. At that point, it switches on me and I feel an overwhelming need to sit up. I generate about the same amount of power as I do in aero as compared to the bull horns of my tri bike. But definately lower in aero than compared to the hoods on my road bike. As Kim mentioned, I'm not fitted very well on the horns of my tri bike. I actually find it interesting that the new super bikes (like the Slice RS) tend to have the handlebars isolated in one position, and you get fit simply by adding spacers under the aerobars. Which means your aero position is fit nicely, but your bull horns are stuck where they are. Fine if you spend most of your time in aero...but sucks if you are the type to use your tri bike for all types of rides including climbing or group rides where you may spend more time out of aero. |
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![]() axteraa - 2013-01-18 1:14 PM heykev - 2013-01-18 7:12 PM Windy 24 degree ride today. Yup it's New England. Power swim technique class tomorrow at 5:30 a.m. Who swims at 5:30? I need to be up at 3:45 to get to this place. Early to bed tonight. Me! What is a power swim technique class? I'm hoping that my community pool changes their cleaning hours so that they aren't closed from 6am-9am every morning. I have access to the pool 24/7 except for those hours. Then again...maybe I'm hoping they don't change the hours.... |
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![]() | ![]() tri808 - 2013-01-18 4:18 PM axteraa - 2013-01-18 1:14 PM heykev - 2013-01-18 7:12 PM Windy 24 degree ride today. Yup it's New England. Power swim technique class tomorrow at 5:30 a.m. Who swims at 5:30? I need to be up at 3:45 to get to this place. Early to bed tonight. Me! What is a power swim technique class? I'm hoping that my community pool changes their cleaning hours so that they aren't closed from 6am-9am every morning. I have access to the pool 24/7 except for those hours. Then again...maybe I'm hoping they don't change the hours.... I miss my early morning swims. Great way to start the day. Cottonwood has some strange hours that I am sure I'll hate (plus you have to sign up for your 30mins. WTF?) |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I had my knee surgery today. I think it went well....I'll talk with the surgeon on Monday in my post-op appointment. He took some pictures during the surgery and the nurse showed me afterward and said, "See this here? It's not normal....it should all be smooth. He removed it and now it's smooth." Since there was no reconstruction or anything, I think the recovery process is going to be relatively quick. I'm already able to walk on it, but am doing what I can to keep myself off it....keeping it elevated and icing it. Next up: figure out how to get back into running with out injuring anything |
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![]() | ![]() ligersandtions - 2013-01-18 5:31 PM I had my knee surgery today. I think it went well....I'll talk with the surgeon on Monday in my post-op appointment. He took some pictures during the surgery and the nurse showed me afterward and said, "See this here? It's not normal....it should all be smooth. He removed it and now it's smooth." Since there was no reconstruction or anything, I think the recovery process is going to be relatively quick. I'm already able to walk on it, but am doing what I can to keep myself off it....keeping it elevated and icing it. Next up: figure out how to get back into running with out injuring anything do your PT and follow your dr's orders. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tri808 - 2013-01-18 6:16 PM axteraa - 2013-01-18 12:44 PM ChrisM - 2013-01-18 6:30 PM bzgl40 - 2013-01-18 2:29 PM ChrisM - 2013-01-18 3:28 PM Also, I think it's been touched on before, but I saw a significant increase in power in aero over a similar feeling effort on the horns. That would make sense though right? Cause you get fit in that position so it is the most ideal position on that bike. And fit can affect power? Yeah, but I was kind of shocked at the number, like 30+ watts (total out of my a$$ number guess based on what I was looking at in the middle of my suffering) If your ability to do simple math in the middle of a trainer session is as good as mine, I wouldn't trust that number much. I find I can generate more power in aero as well, until I start getting really tired and my breathing gets laboured. At that point, it switches on me and I feel an overwhelming need to sit up. I generate about the same amount of power as I do in aero as compared to the bull horns of my tri bike. But definately lower in aero than compared to the hoods on my road bike. As Kim mentioned, I'm not fitted very well on the horns of my tri bike. I actually find it interesting that the new super bikes (like the Slice RS) tend to have the handlebars isolated in one position, and you get fit simply by adding spacers under the aerobars. Which means your aero position is fit nicely, but your bull horns are stuck where they are. Fine if you spend most of your time in aero...but sucks if you are the type to use your tri bike for all types of rides including climbing or group rides where you may spend more time out of aero. I know I produce more power out of aero than in aero...need to work on that. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() axteraa - 2013-01-18 5:14 PM heykev - 2013-01-18 7:12 PM Windy 24 degree ride today. Yup it's New England. Power swim technique class tomorrow at 5:30 a.m. Who swims at 5:30? I need to be up at 3:45 to get to this place. Early to bed tonight. Me! What is a power swim technique class? Weekday mornings are 5:00 for me. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() bzgl40 - 2013-01-18 4:29 PM ChrisM - 2013-01-18 3:28 PM Also, I think it's been touched on before, but I saw a significant increase in power in aero over a similar feeling effort on the horns. That would make sense though right? Cause you get fit in that position so it is the most ideal position on that bike. And fit can affect power? Fit most certainly can affect power. For better or worse. With Chris, however, this is interesting. Usually in aero is less. At best it's the same. I can't remember hearing someone do better. The 'best' position will be a balance between that loss and the aero gains. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() marcag - 2013-01-18 7:26 PM tough trainer workout. 3x7' @ 112, 113%, 113%. Those long VO2 intervals hurt Ouch! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() heykev - 2013-01-18 6:12 PM Windy 24 degree ride today. Yup it's New England. Power swim technique class tomorrow at 5:30 a.m. Who swims at 5:30? I need to be up at 3:45 to get to this place. Early to bed tonight. I swim with a masters group at 5:30 during the week. Fortunately the pool is close and if I'm organized the night before the alarm is set for 4:40. Look forward to hearing about power swim technique. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() OK, I did the smart thing. Deferred NYC to 2014. If I really get the marathon bug this fall there are other options. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ligersandtions - 2013-01-18 4:31 PM I had my knee surgery today. I think it went well....I'll talk with the surgeon on Monday in my post-op appointment. He took some pictures during the surgery and the nurse showed me afterward and said, "See this here? It's not normal....it should all be smooth. He removed it and now it's smooth." Since there was no reconstruction or anything, I think the recovery process is going to be relatively quick. I'm already able to walk on it, but am doing what I can to keep myself off it....keeping it elevated and icing it. Next up: figure out how to get back into running with out injuring anything Glad it went well...keep us updated! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() riorio - 2013-01-18 7:55 AM ligersandtions - 2013-01-18 4:31 PM I had my knee surgery today. I think it went well....I'll talk with the surgeon on Monday in my post-op appointment. He took some pictures during the surgery and the nurse showed me afterward and said, "See this here? It's not normal....it should all be smooth. He removed it and now it's smooth." Since there was no reconstruction or anything, I think the recovery process is going to be relatively quick. I'm already able to walk on it, but am doing what I can to keep myself off it....keeping it elevated and icing it. Next up: figure out how to get back into running with out injuring anything Glad it went well...keep us updated! x3....and x2 on what Kim said - do the PT - it will make a difference. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fred D - 2013-01-19 8:54 AM I've been here since 2006 and have essentially seen almost everyone I first met here leave or if they didn't leave, they don't really do much training, especially SBR training. It got me to thinking? What is the lifespan of a triathlete (not in terms of death, but in terms of life in the sport)?? I guess I'm asking if you folks think triathlon is a sustainable (long term) sport for training OR racing beyond 5 years? I would also be curious how it compares to other other activities. Guessing people go through phases with a lot of things. |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() its kind of fun to check the ages on calves at the races. I see a few people in their 60's and 70's doing tri's. Personally , as long s I live seven minutes from the pool I hope to do at least one sprint Tri every year forever....... BTW, its a high of 70 degrees here tomorow. Boo ha ha. |
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Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() itsallrelative_Maine - 2013-01-19 5:27 AM riorio - 2013-01-18 7:55 AM ligersandtions - 2013-01-18 4:31 PM I had my knee surgery today. I think it went well....I'll talk with the surgeon on Monday in my post-op appointment. He took some pictures during the surgery and the nurse showed me afterward and said, "See this here? It's not normal....it should all be smooth. He removed it and now it's smooth." Since there was no reconstruction or anything, I think the recovery process is going to be relatively quick. I'm already able to walk on it, but am doing what I can to keep myself off it....keeping it elevated and icing it. Next up: figure out how to get back into running with out injuring anything Glad it went well...keep us updated! x3....and x2 on what Kim said - do the PT - it will make a difference. Post-op appointment with the surgeon and PT scheduled for Monday. I'll be doing everything the PT suggests....I'm so ready to put this whole thing behind me and get back to normal. Taking it easy till then. Thanks for all the well wishes Nicole |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I guess I'm asking if you folks think triathlon is a sustainable (long term) sport for training OR racing beyond 5 years? I know some have left because of other commitments, boredom, injury, life etc, etc Burnout is a huge factor. Also life changes - getting married, having kids. Some people find their focus shifting. I think a lot of people - esp at the Ironman distance - go all-in and commit so much time that they become sick of it. When I started doing triathlons, I wanted it to be a time commitment. Mainly to keep me away from soccer which is where I kept getting hurt. But I also told myself I wanted triathlon to be something I'd stick with for the long haul. I'm being coached this year and there is some friction. If I don't feel like doing a workout, I don't. If I want to swap days, I do. Take a trip somewhere and not worry about S/B/R? Sure. It's those little adjustments that keep me from getting burned out. If that means I'm going to be a 12 hour IM instead of 10 something, but I can stay with the sport until I'm old, then that's ok with me.
Edit: as for racing, I have exactly 1 scheduled next year. I've done some sprints and Olys before but that's just not my happy place. I'll gladly take a summer with 1 IM and maybe 1 HIM and leave it at that. Edited by spudone 2013-01-19 11:44 AM |
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![]() | ![]() Fred D I guess I have concerns that triathlon for many, many people seems to be a fairly temporary sport in their lives. Thoughts? I think that is true of a lot of stuff in life. Some will stick with, some will move on to other things. It is the circle of life. |
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Pro![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fred D - 2013-01-19 1:32 PM bzgl40 - 2013-01-19 1:22 PM Probably right Kim. I'm sure runners go through a similar cycle, ie; do a few races, then a Mary, then burnout etc. Just thinking aloud about ways to not let it happen to myself as I really enjoy so many aspects of SBR. Fred D I guess I have concerns that triathlon for many, many people seems to be a fairly temporary sport in their lives. Thoughts? I think that is true of a lot of stuff in life. Some will stick with, some will move on to other things. It is the circle of life. Circle of life and many people currently active in tri's enter that circle without much, if any background in SBR. It's often a means to an end...getting in shape, checking off a bucket list item etc. Once that end is achieved there is natural attrition. I don't really enjoy racing that much, but I do enjoy training. It's part of my social life and my decompression from other stresses. I usually sign up for events just to get myself on a schedule. I will never excel at any of the three disciplines but that's ok. There are also so many other ways to enjoy SBR beyond tri's that will draw people's time/finances etc. Fred, speaking of which you once mentioned NY Gran Fondo....fyi there is also a pretty good one in NJ next fall. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Fred D - 2013-01-19 12:32 PM bzgl40 - 2013-01-19 1:22 PM Probably right Kim. I'm sure runners go through a similar cycle, ie; do a few races, then a Mary, then burnout etc. Just thinking aloud about ways to not let it happen to myself as I really enjoy so many aspects of SBR. Fred D I guess I have concerns that triathlon for many, many people seems to be a fairly temporary sport in their lives. Thoughts? I think that is true of a lot of stuff in life. Some will stick with, some will move on to other things. It is the circle of life. That's where I was going before. People get into lots of things for maybe a few years, then slow down or drop out. Some just naturally cycle, others burn out some. I'm trying to keep the perspective that each race is an event or an adventure. Not so much a competition with others. I don't want it to turn into that. I stayed away from races and any competitions for awhile after finishing school because I was tired of it and tired of being measured against others all the time. I didn't want the pressure being constantly rated like that. Now, I look at the major races as adventures to go enjoy. I look for more hilly or challenging courses because they're fun. That's where the entertainment is for me. Putting up a fast time on a flat course might be fun once in awhile, but I'm much more interested in having courses that require negotiation of the terrain. I'll train well so that I can push myself for the event and then get what I get on race day. When I keep this perspective, I've actually been able to do rather well. And I want to keep at it, meaning I don't really need much down time afterwards. I'll try to do less than what I think I can fit in so that I'm wanting more, to keep that feeling going. Otherwise I may peak and then burn out on it. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Took advantage of some great weather, kids at grandparents and hubby off racing his mtn bike to get in a century ride. I was worried I might not have the fitness to do it but it went fine. The last 20 miles were solo and I had a couple of dark moments but nothing a handful of jelly beans couldn't take care of
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