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 2014-11-04 6:03 PM in reply to: gekkounonetsu |
Master  3022  |  Subject: RE: Consistency Equals SuccessOriginally posted by gekkounonetsu Originally posted by JBacarella Originally posted by trisuppo Originally posted by gekkounonetsu I don't have an HR monitor, just a cheap bike computer that tracks speed, distance, and time. Obviously that doesn't help for anything other than biking. Would a monitor be worth investing in, and which kind would be best? I haven't checked those sites yet, but I will be sure to do so. Ellen, There is a lot of value from a HR monitor. Knowingyour HR will allow you to train smarter. It will allow you to monitor your effort level to ensure that you are working out hard enough but not too hard. I will try to find a link to a thread or two that discuss the importance of HR training. Others here will chime in on the Maffetone method of HR training that is very easy to figure out and very effective as you begin your endurance addiction. Using HR and Maffetone method are a great way to start training. You don't have to start with a $500.00 HR GPS watch. Buy something low end just make sure it has a chest strap and give you a constant HR. The basic formula is 180-age= MAF maximum HR during training or maximum aerobic function. That is why when Jackie had a birthday I congratulated her on losing a heartbeat, you can't tell her age by looking at her, so don't try. If you have been training less than 2 years, injured or ill -2 more. If you have been training more than 2 years +5. Do this alone for the first 90 days, then add in speed work. "The Big Book of Endurance Training" was written by Maffetone. Its a good place to start your training. I will admit that he mixed some BS and ego into the book. He gets a little hokey with nutrition. I took what I liked from it, and left the rest. The big thing for me is I was able to train and increase millage without injury. I was having a real issue with Achilles Tendonitis, prior to starting this method. I looked into monitors a bit yesterday, and I must admit it was a little overwhelming. Thanks for the advice, now I'll know what to look for. =) And I get to add my first session to the list! I won't be able to update for the next week since I'll be camping with my family. What's your budget? I'm sure we can give you some suggestions. |
| 2014-11-04 6:48 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 1480   Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Awesome job Gabe - glad I was proven wrong nice PR. The wind looked awful. I did see that Caroline Wozniacki ran a 3:26 with no run longer than 13 miles. Guess that is the advantage of being a world class tennis player at age 24. Adding in Sunday and Tuesday workouts. Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 03 04:11:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 03 02:34:23 Sam 02 01:15:00 Jackie 02 02:03:47 Ellen 00 00:26:38 |
| 2014-11-04 7:20 PM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 1255 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 03 04:11:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 03 02:34:23 Sam 02 01:15:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) |
| 2014-11-04 10:55 PM in reply to: jackiep |
| 107 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Interesting workout day. 1hr Personal Trainer session, 46 minute bike ride, and then a 1hr Ski conditioning, 1 point and 45 minutes... Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 03 04:11:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 03 02:34:23 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) |
| 2014-11-05 1:12 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Updating few workouts this month: Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 03 04:11:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 03 02:34:23 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 03 04:15:00 I have started doing hill repeats mentally preparing myself for the Kokoda Challenge next year and this runninng/walking business will gradually take over other forms of excercise for the next few months. Edited by markz 2014-11-05 1:24 AM |
| 2014-11-05 7:06 AM in reply to: markz |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success So I am starting to plan my 2015 race calendar. I'm feeling much better and think that by the end of the year, I should be ready for a good and healthy 2015. Problem is I have said that same thing for the last 2 yrs and have been injured. What's the collective wisdom of the team - baby steps (ie, sign up for short races and see how it goes) or big steps (ie throw on some HIMs or possibly an IM)? Feedback appreciated. |
| 2014-11-05 8:25 AM in reply to: JoePetto |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by JoePetto So I am starting to plan my 2015 race calendar. I'm feeling much better and think that by the end of the year, I should be ready for a good and healthy 2015. Problem is I have said that same thing for the last 2 yrs and have been injured. What's the collective wisdom of the team - baby steps (ie, sign up for short races and see how it goes) or big steps (ie throw on some HIMs or possibly an IM)? Feedback appreciated. Joe - I think I'd start with baby steps and then adjust accordingly depending on how your body is doing. I think you're getting to a really good place now but no sense taking a step back if you rush back too fast. If you're like me you plan on staying active and racing events for years to come. The main goal should always be our health. My wife often asks why I can't be happy with fitness with overall health as a goal. It's hard to recognize that sometimes our race and competitive goals can actually be detrimental to our overall health. Honestly, I shouldn't have ran my recent HM. It set my running back at least 4 weeks, maybe 6. Take your time with regard to racing. Training is easy to hold back paces and efforts... |
| 2014-11-05 8:30 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by trisuppo Originally posted by JoePetto So I am starting to plan my 2015 race calendar. I'm feeling much better and think that by the end of the year, I should be ready for a good and healthy 2015. Problem is I have said that same thing for the last 2 yrs and have been injured. What's the collective wisdom of the team - baby steps (ie, sign up for short races and see how it goes) or big steps (ie throw on some HIMs or possibly an IM)? Feedback appreciated. Joe - I think I'd start with baby steps and then adjust accordingly depending on how your body is doing. I think you're getting to a really good place now but no sense taking a step back if you rush back too fast. If you're like me you plan on staying active and racing events for years to come. The main goal should always be our health. My wife often asks why I can't be happy with fitness with overall health as a goal. It's hard to recognize that sometimes our race and competitive goals can actually be detrimental to our overall health. Honestly, I shouldn't have ran my recent HM. It set my running back at least 4 weeks, maybe 6. Take your time with regard to racing. Training is easy to hold back paces and efforts... You sound like my wife ?? |
| 2014-11-05 10:18 AM in reply to: JoePetto |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by JoePetto Originally posted by trisuppo Originally posted by JoePetto So I am starting to plan my 2015 race calendar. I'm feeling much better and think that by the end of the year, I should be ready for a good and healthy 2015. Problem is I have said that same thing for the last 2 yrs and have been injured. What's the collective wisdom of the team - baby steps (ie, sign up for short races and see how it goes) or big steps (ie throw on some HIMs or possibly an IM)? Feedback appreciated. Joe - I think I'd start with baby steps and then adjust accordingly depending on how your body is doing. I think you're getting to a really good place now but no sense taking a step back if you rush back too fast. If you're like me you plan on staying active and racing events for years to come. The main goal should always be our health. My wife often asks why I can't be happy with fitness with overall health as a goal. It's hard to recognize that sometimes our race and competitive goals can actually be detrimental to our overall health. Honestly, I shouldn't have ran my recent HM. It set my running back at least 4 weeks, maybe 6. Take your time with regard to racing. Training is easy to hold back paces and efforts... You sound like my wife ?? LOL. What do they say...the older we get the wiser we get? Honestly, I'm torn most of the time. So many things I want to do on my fitness bucket list. No time to accomplish them all at this stage in my life. I'm starting to settle on the slow burn to achieve my goals. I don't recall your background, but for me, not having been an athlete growing up makes this all a challenge. My fitness/athletic life really began at age 37. It takes years to build a fitness base and on older ligaments, etc. it takes even longer. I think you ultimately know yourself best. You have to ensure that you listen to your body which I think you are doing a better job of than anyone in this group. try out some shorter races and then make a decison on the longer stuff mid-year. That sounds very sensible. |
| 2014-11-05 10:29 AM in reply to: JoePetto |
| 353 Conroe, Texas | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Catching up on the challenge for the last couple of days. The cooler days are definitely making the running outside so much more enjoyable!! Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 05 07:18:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 03 02:34:23 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 03 04:15:00 |
| 2014-11-05 4:59 PM in reply to: sawyer1206 |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Thanks all for your messages and I will post soon a RR for my Marathon Mark Z, congrats on signing up for a tough trail Ultra, very inspiring. So much so, that I just contacted the organizing team for the Marathon Des Sables (one of the toughest Ultras on the planet, 240k, 6 days through the Saharan Dessert) to try to get a slot for 2016 :-) Joe, I probably will go against the current here, but if you feel better I would shoot for big steps and measure my progress along the way. That is what I did after coming out from my ITB injury and went through a HM and Full Marathon in the last two months. Fortunately it all worked out well for me and can now plan to make up for 1-2 Full IM's next year. But that's just me (and now I need to clear subtlety my races with my wife :-) Jackie, how is your taper going, are you going nuts yet? Adding 1 marathon Sunday and 1hr recovery drainer today Mitch 04 03:28:55 |
| 2014-11-05 9:00 PM in reply to: trigabe |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Gabe, this is insane! I love it!!! Nothing like a crazy race to motivate us. I have read about the Marathon Des Sables some time ago in Lisa Tamati's book. You will have a story and half to tell after you come back. Joe, I'm with Gabe here. I would also plan a long and crazy event. You can always take it easy if it causes injury, you are in control. For me it's hard to get motivated by baby steps. |
| 2014-11-05 9:51 PM in reply to: trigabe |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 51:10 runch at MAF Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 05 07:18:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 04 03:25:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 03 04:15:00 Gabe 2 04:41:15 |
| 2014-11-05 10:00 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Joe- My 2 cents. It is November and you won't have a longer race until April or May. That is 6 months to build up your fitness. I would start slow and build a solid base. If you focus the first three months on just building endurance and then start adding speed you will have the fitness to do any distance you want. Since you have a lot of time, if something feels wrong scale back to a light week and start building again. |
| 2014-11-06 1:42 AM in reply to: JBacarella |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 30min ride today. Short, because sudden storm scared me. Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 05 07:18:31 Joe 03 02:42:00 Jim 04 03:25:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 2 04:41:15 |
| 2014-11-06 4:31 AM in reply to: markz |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Thanks for the disparate viewpoints y'all - you collectively sound like the voices in my head. Will need to think more about it. Adding in last night's SF - The Wretched. Only 49' long this one packs a wallop. 35' of hill climbs accompanied by great TdF video, which may be fav as you get race to with Jens, Cadel, the Schlecks, Contador, etc. Mitch 04 03:28:55 Dennis 05 07:18:31 Joe 04 03:31:00 Jim 04 03:25:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 2 04:41:15 |
| 2014-11-06 8:20 AM in reply to: JoePetto |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success I took yesterday off. 60' on the trainer this morning - Trainerroad Mountfield (3x12' @ 85% FTP). Nice solid effort. Mitch 05 04:28:55 Dennis 05 07:18:31 Joe 04 03:31:00 Jim 04 03:25:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 2 04:41:15 |
| 2014-11-06 9:59 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
| 353 Conroe, Texas | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by trisuppo I took yesterday off. 60' on the trainer this morning - Trainerroad Mountfield (3x12' @ 85% FTP). Nice solid effort. I may be joining you on the trainerroad soon, I going to take some time and look at it this afternoon. I just can't seem to get motivated to put the bike on the trainer. The bike is the most inconsistent part of my training and I know I could improve a lot if I would only get motivated. Adding this mornings swim and strength training. Mitch 05 04:28:55 Dennis 06 08:38:31 Joe 04 03:31:00 Jim 04 03:25:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 2 04:41:15 |
| 2014-11-06 10:12 AM in reply to: sawyer1206 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by sawyer1206 Originally posted by trisuppo I took yesterday off. 60' on the trainer this morning - Trainerroad Mountfield (3x12' @ 85% FTP). Nice solid effort. I may be joining you on the trainerroad soon, I going to take some time and look at it this afternoon. I just can't seem to get motivated to put the bike on the trainer. The bike is the most inconsistent part of my training and I know I could improve a lot if I would only get motivated. It's well worth it. Their workouts and training plans are great in the their own right. Add in the workouts that go along with the Sufferfest Videos and its an awesome product. Once you sign up, be sure to join the mentor team I created. There was alink a page or two back. Please let me know if I need to repost. If you have any questions, please ask. |
| 2014-11-06 10:36 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
Veteran 419 clayton | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Hi everyone! Great job on the recent race results and fitness improvements! I wanted to gloat from my recovery/off season - so far only 30 minutes of each S/B/R and I feel great. looking forward to start some off season maintenance programs and enjoy the colder weather. Might even throw in some yoga ... Jackie - I am getting excited for you - cant imagine what you're feeling!! Mark. |
| 2014-11-06 12:37 PM in reply to: sawyer1206 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 45 minute runch Mitch 05 04:28:55 Dennis 06 08:38:31 Joe 04 03:31:00 Jim 05 04:10:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 2 04:41:15 |
| 2014-11-06 6:56 PM in reply to: JBacarella |
Expert 1109 Guatemala | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Today, 55 min drainer Mitch 05 04:28:55 |
| 2014-11-06 8:44 PM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success Originally posted by trisuppo Originally posted by sawyer1206 Originally posted by trisuppo I took yesterday off. 60' on the trainer this morning - Trainerroad Mountfield (3x12' @ 85% FTP). Nice solid effort. I may be joining you on the trainerroad soon, I going to take some time and look at it this afternoon. I just can't seem to get motivated to put the bike on the trainer. The bike is the most inconsistent part of my training and I know I could improve a lot if I would only get motivated. It's well worth it. Their workouts and training plans are great in the their own right. Add in the workouts that go along with the Sufferfest Videos and its an awesome product. Once you sign up, be sure to join the mentor team I created. There was alink a page or two back. Please let me know if I need to repost. If you have any questions, please ask. I have been with Trainerroad since it was in beta (and still only pay about $5 month since I was in so early) and the product is an absolute home run. Easy to use and the team there has really expanded content. For the money there's probably no better indoor bike training tool out there other than getting a decent trainer. When I'm not injured I do most of riding indoors seeing as the weather typically sucks or its pitch black when I am cycling. Indoor training is tedious, but it is highly efficient for triathlon training. No wasted time at stop lights and no coasting. It also is good mental practice. Indoor cycling is not a replacement for hill climbs, pack riding or improving your handling skills, but it will help you tune up the engine. Also, it is really good for doing drills like one leg pedaling and working on form. The Sufferfest vids help with boredom as does a good movie or binge watching a good cable series. C'mon Dennis - join the darkside. |
| 2014-11-07 8:11 AM in reply to: 0 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success On cue...30 minutes this morning on Trainerroad. Workout was Laurel. Mitch 06 04:58:55 Dennis 06 08:38:31 Joe 04 03:31:00 Jim 05 04:10:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 3 05:36:45 Edited by trisuppo 2014-11-07 8:12 AM |
| 2014-11-07 9:51 AM in reply to: trisuppo |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Consistency Equals Success 1 hr trainer road last night. Spent about 35' right below threshold but above sweet spot. I forget the name of the workout, but it had good instruction on form and drills. Mitch 06 04:58:55 Dennis 06 08:38:31 Joe 05 04:31:00 Jim 05 04:10:10 Sam 03 02:00:00 Jackie 03 03:03:30 (no I didn't plan this) Ellen 01 00:26:38 (fixed Ellen's total workout no) Mark Z 04 04:35:00 Gabe 3 05:36:45 |
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