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 2012-05-26 12:20 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master  3022  |  Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - ClosedNice morning - stepped on scale and weighed 156.6. I don't think I've seen that # since the mid-90's. Definitely keep slimming down. Feels good to have to buy new clothes but getting sick of spending the money... |
| 2012-05-26 12:24 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1544   Alexandria, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Got a break in between thunderstorms for a quick run. Now if my wife ever gets home from garage sales I'll be able to head to the lake for a swim. Super windy today and choppy water, should be good practice.
- Mitch: S 6 / B 16 / R 16 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 38 ; 25:42'03" Edited by Climbinggonzo 2012-05-26 12:25 PM |
| 2012-05-26 3:37 PM in reply to: #4230449 |
Master 1780 Boynton Beach, FL | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 30 mile ride at MAFish. 1:50'58". Longest ride for me so far. Tomorrow a rest day. - Mitch: S 6 / B 16 / R 16 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 38 ; 25:42'03" |
| 2012-05-26 6:26 PM in reply to: #4230584 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Today's effort was 72 mile ride and 4.25 mile run - all in 4hrs 20'. Hot and humid - I went out during the hottest part of day to simulate race conditions. Took plenty of salt sticks which helped, but I still started to crap in the VMOs at mile 62. I dropped to the small ring and took the cadence up and the cramps subsided. Nutrition was dialed in. With heat and humidity, MAF went out the door. The run was tough, but it reminded me that I need to get the core cooled down as much as possible during the aid stations. Luckily, the support at Eagleman is fantastic - tons of ice at every station and snow cones at the turnaround. The weight has completely fallen off me. Started in January around 160. Went out for my ride at 151 and came back at 146 and that was after quaffing a quart+ of water after the ride. Been eating like a horse since the ride. Taper starts tomorrow. - Mitch: S 6 / B 16 / R 16 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 38 ; 25:42'03" Edited by JoePetto 2012-05-26 6:29 PM |
| 2012-05-26 7:55 PM in reply to: #4230685 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed JoePetto - 2012-05-26 6:26 PM Today's effort was 72 mile ride and 4.25 mile run - all in 4hrs 20'. Hot and humid - I went out during the hottest part of day to simulate race conditions. Took plenty of salt sticks which helped, but I still started to crap in the VMOs at mile 62. I dropped to the small ring and took the cadence up and the cramps subsided. Nutrition was dialed in. With heat and humidity, MAF went out the door. The run was tough, but it reminded me that I need to get the core cooled down as much as possible during the aid stations. Luckily, the support at Eagleman is fantastic - tons of ice at every station and snow cones at the turnaround. The weight has completely fallen off me. Started in January around 160. Went out for my ride at 151 and came back at 146 and that was after quaffing a quart+ of water after the ride. Been eating like a horse since the ride. Taper starts tomorrow. |
| 2012-05-26 8:20 PM in reply to: #4230685 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 5k race then I paced my kids and friend to the finish. The 5 K I ran in 21:43 and took second in my age group. I'm glad Scott didn't come up until today or I would have ended up 3rd - Mitch: S 6 / B 16 / R 16 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 38 ; 25:42'03"
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plus 11:01 pacing for an additional 1.4 miles. Proud of the two who ran it. My 15 year old smashed her PR by over 2 minutes and ran it under 25. Then bike ride 16.3 miles for 49:37. I had a blowout and had to walk my bike home. I didn't bring my sell and didn't have a spare. Bike shoes are great for walking, so I walked it barefoot (I considered it natural running training, thankfully my feet are still beat up from last week). Also, I bee flew into one of the vents in my bike helmet and stung me in the head 5 miles into my ride.
.| 2012-05-26 8:41 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed I did a little research for those considering using the Maffetone Method for training. These are just from my own logs. I started training this way in January. I have done everything at or below my MAF, except I did 2 Fartlek's this month, no other speed work. For all of 2011 I ran a total of 437.8 miles. This year to date I have run 372.46 miles. So, I have had a significant increase in volume. In todays race I ran 5k in 21:43 my PR is 21:16. I have to admit that my legs are still feeling the effects of last Sunday. Last year I was having a problem with Achilles tendonitis. This year I have been pain free. Bottom line I have lost no speed on short distance since last fall. I am running longer distances faster at or below MAF and my mileage has increased significantly. I was very slow to believe and asked a lot of questions, but I think I'm in the choir and passing out the cool-aid |
.| 2012-05-26 9:06 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Today I had a good ride, never drafted and the wind going southbound was brutal. I feel fit, it's been a long time... BTW, I'm not going to claim points for the crit races since we never talked about those before but going forward, should I count them? I'm asking because they're so darn short... Although they hurt more than a 5K at full steam. How should we treat ALL races? I would like some consensus so nobody feels like they received unfair shots. The whole thing about this challenge is that it levels all of us and I want to keep that. I'm asking because I see discrepancies on the way people claims race points. - Mitch: S 6 / B 16 / R 16 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 38 ; 25:42'03"
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| 2012-05-26 9:09 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Veteran 419 clayton | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed OK I couldnt wait until the end of the year - I bought this little beaauty!! http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1083956_-1_1095692__400296 Only ridden i tup and down the parking lot/car park and already know I am going to blow my MTB times away so easily. Can wai tto take it out but need to wait for the pedals to arrive first :-( Regarding shoes - shall I go fo dedicated road or tri version. Road has three straps/buckle, while tri has one, also has a strap tp assit in transition - but whats the other pro/cons? |
| 2012-05-26 9:26 PM in reply to: #4230802 |
Expert 1544 Alexandria, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed ernestov - 2012-05-26 9:06 PM How should we treat ALL races? I would like some consensus so nobody feels like they received unfair shots. The whole thing about this challenge is that it levels all of us and I want to keep that. I'm asking because I see discrepancies on the way people claims race points.
I was under the impression that unless a leg of any race was greater than 30 minutes it didn't count. So for example I had a sprint tri in the beginning of the month, but the swim portion was only 9 minutes and the run was only 21 minutes, so those two portions of the race didn't count for me that day. Although I did go out and run again after the race so I could get a 30 minute run in. Then I read somewhere that the a rest day the day before or the day after a race could count for one point, but not one point in addition to any other workouts you perform that day, so if you did a 30+ minute bike ride the day before a race you can't take two points that day. Is that right? |
| 2012-05-26 10:15 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Mark - great bike! The colors look like my trusty Cannondale. I also have white bar tape - totally impractical, but looks very Euro... You will be certainly much faster than on your MTB, guaranteed! I did 11k run with the club this morning and MTB commuting later on. - Mitch: S 6 / B 16 / R 16 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 38 ; 25:42'03" Edited by markz 2012-05-26 10:18 PM |
| 2012-05-26 11:32 PM in reply to: #4230802 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Jim, Great job on the race! June Challenge Rules: ernestov - 2012-05-26 9:06 PM BTW, I'm not going to claim points for the crit races since we never talked about those before but going forward, should I count them? I'm asking because they're so darn short... Although they hurt more than a 5K at full steam. How should we treat ALL races? I would like some consensus so nobody feels like they received unfair shots. The whole thing about this challenge is that it levels all of us and I want to keep that. I'm asking because I see discrepancies on the way people claims race points. I think the first thing to note is that every month is a completely different contest. We get to make up new rules every time. So here is my proposal (and it's just that, a proposal): We drop the idea of extra points for days before or after races. The reason for this is that the idea of an extra point the day before and after a race day came about when 1) the challenge was just for running, and 2) we were trying to get everyone to run everyday. The idea behind the extra point was that we wanted to make an exception for people racing. It made sense for them to take a day off before and after the race and we didn't want them to automatically lose because they took a day off. But now we are requiring rest days as part of the challenge. So if you are racing, I suggest you take two of your rest days the days before and after your race. So here are my proposed rules for June: Pick 26 days of June where you are eligible to earn points (or 4 rest days where you aren't). You can choose these on the fly. No restrictions on when in the month they can be. On days you are eligible for points, you get a swim point if your total swimming for the day is at least 30 minutes. You get a bike point or a run point likewise. (So the most points you can get on an eligible day is three.) Participants are ranked first by total number of points and for ties, they are then ranked by total minutes. |
| 2012-05-27 6:04 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Extreme Veteran 576 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Very nice bike mark. You will see a huge diffrence in bike speed.Ernesto, I up for a June challenge. I have been doing the odd swim and ride I have not worried about the challenge this month. Happy to start pushing again. Thinking of signing up for a 70.3 in the south of our state on the 5 January next year. Will be a hot one with possible temps close to the 40c mark.I also have started training at MAF. Been reading the book and it sounds like fun. Had one run on Friday and felt very good. Edited by Matthews 2012-05-27 6:05 AM |
| 2012-05-27 6:30 AM in reply to: #4230899 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed chris2533 - 2012-05-27 12:32 AM So here are my proposed rules for June: Pick 26 days of June where you are eligible to earn points (or 4 rest days where you aren't). You can choose these on the fly. No restrictions on when in the month they can be. On days you are eligible for points, you get a swim point if your total swimming for the day is at least 30 minutes. You get a bike point or a run point likewise. (So the most points you can get on an eligible day is three.) Participants are ranked first by total number of points and for ties, they are then ranked by total minutes. x2. |
| 2012-05-27 6:36 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Adding yesterday's swim, bike & run and this morning's run. - Mitch: S 7 / B 17 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 42 ; 28:18'49" |
| 2012-05-27 7:02 AM in reply to: #4230752 |
Expert 1480 Somewhere in the Swamps of Philly | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed ernestov - 2012-05-26 8:55 PM Joe, if you cramped, nutrition was not dialed in. It usually happens because of an imbalance of electrolytes (mostly potassium) and its ratio to water in your body. I'm not saying you didn't hit your workout nutrition, but maybe the pre-workout nutrition was off. The day before a long ride it is good to drink coconut juice for example, it is great for hydration and it has more potassium than 4 bananas per serving. Especially in the heat, the salt tabs will be good but remember that hydration is a process that takes more than minutes or even hours.JoePetto - 2012-05-26 6:26 PM Today's effort was 72 mile ride and 4.25 mile run - all in 4hrs 20'. Hot and humid - I went out during the hottest part of day to simulate race conditions. Took plenty of salt sticks which helped, but I still started to crap in the VMOs at mile 62. I dropped to the small ring and took the cadence up and the cramps subsided. Nutrition was dialed in. With heat and humidity, MAF went out the door. The run was tough, but it reminded me that I need to get the core cooled down as much as possible during the aid stations. Luckily, the support at Eagleman is fantastic - tons of ice at every station and snow cones at the turnaround. The weight has completely fallen off me. Started in January around 160. Went out for my ride at 151 and came back at 146 and that was after quaffing a quart+ of water after the ride. Been eating like a horse since the ride. Taper starts tomorrow. I was thinking more about what was in the belly rather than what was pulsing through the veins. i will hit the coconut water days before the pre-race! I tend to suffer in the heat so any other advice is appreciated. Edited by JoePetto 2012-05-27 7:04 AM |
| 2012-05-27 8:06 AM in reply to: #4230847 |
Veteran 445 Chicago, Illinois | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Last evening was definitely an "if not for the challenge" run. Rest day today, 10K race tomorrow that's scheduled to be a hot one (by Chicago standards) I'm also in for the June challenge! - Mitch: S 7 / B 17 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 42 ; 28:18'49" Edited by baurryman 2012-05-27 8:13 AM |
| 2012-05-27 8:58 AM in reply to: #4123283 |
Expert 1544 Alexandria, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Need to add yesterday's bike ride, a bit windy, out to the state park while my wife drove the kids and we met up. - Mitch: S 7 / B 17 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 42 ; 28:18'49" Edited by Climbinggonzo 2012-05-27 9:00 AM |
| 2012-05-27 9:54 AM in reply to: #4231068 |
Extreme Veteran 692 England | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed I've been a little out of the loop this week, so trying to catch up here. I've been feeling a bit rough and took a couple of days off to try to fight it off. Felt much better on Thursday, so figured it had worked. Took Thursday off from training because it was my birthday and I went out for the day with my parents. Spent Thursday evening travelling down to Nottingham with a group of people from work (who I'd never met before) for our tri on Friday. They turned out to be a lovely bunch of people and we had a great time. Friday was my first ever open water sprint race, so I wasn't really sure what to expect on times. I was hoping to get under 1h30 based on previous races etc. When we went to get the results at the end my time came up as 1h30m10s. I was slightly disappointed, but only slightly. Then I noticed that my 750m swim time was showing as 22min 05sec. I didn't have a great swim, but that's REALLY disappointing. Then I spoke to the other girl in our group and she also had a really disappointing swim time. At which point we realised that they hadn't taken the timing of our wave into consideration. So we went and spoke to the timing people who adjusted our times, and took the 7 minutes off. At which point I was extremely happy to have an overall time of 1h23m10s! I've done my race report if anyone's interested. Sadly on the journey home I started feeling unwell again, and so landed up taking another day off training yesterday. I'm also on night shift this weekend, which never helps. However, I've decided that (on the advice of one of our club coaches) I'm going to continue with my planned training from today. The reasoning behind this is that if I continue to try to fight off my illness, it may be several weeks before I get properly ill. At that point it's going to completely screw me over for IM. If I "let" myself get ill now, I can get it over with, and while it will have an impact, hopefully it will be a lesser impact. So does anyone have any tips on how to encourage illness? Sounds stupid, but the reasoning is sound... - Mitch: S 7 / B 17 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 42 ; 28:18'49" |
| 2012-05-27 2:11 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 2238 Dallas | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Today I ran 80 minutes, 10 miles. Felt somewhat heavy and couldn't get my turnover to be higher than 90, probably because after my long ride yesterday I got called out to work and I wasn't off the hook until 7PM. I can't get mad, I haven't been called out in like a month. Tomorrow I will ride again since I don't work (cross my fingers) and I will take Friday off next week, racing a little Sprint on Sunday as a speed workout for Boise which is only six days later. I agree on the points brought up by Chris. Does anybody have any heartburn with that? Otherwise we will leave it as the final rules for S/B/R challenges. In the winter we will probably have a running only challenge, different rules, different story.
- Mitch: S 7 / B 17 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 42 ; 28:18'49" Edited by ernestov 2012-05-27 2:24 PM |
| 2012-05-27 4:07 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 1609 Gold Coast Australia. | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Rachel, that's easy. Go and run a marathon, but try to get your PB. Give it all you have. This will lower your immune systam and almost certainly make you feel sicker! Personally, I wouldn't though. What I would tell my body is this: "...listen, we have an IM to do this year and whether you play sick or not, these long workouts have to be done. I will take it easy on you with the intensity, I don't want you to break down or anything, but don't try to stop me, get used to it!" Also, nutrition, whatever you know to boost the immune system - take it. |
| 2012-05-27 5:00 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Master 3022 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 30 minutes on Mtn bike pulling 2 year old on Wee Hoo. - Mitch: S 7 / B 18 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 43 ; 28:50'30" |
| 2012-05-27 5:14 PM in reply to: #4231330 |
| Maple Grove, MN | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed First OWS of the year. Water not too cold (about 72 F). But very windy and choppy. Wore Xterra wetsuit. Got lots of funny looks from boaters. - Mitch: S 7 / B 18 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 43 ; 28:50'30" - Andy: S 9 / B 13 / R 15 /Rest Days 5 ; Total = 39 (Two extra from two races); 32:45'27" - Gabe: S 10 / B 11 / R 11 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 33 ; 43:33'11" (One extra from one race) - Scott: S 3 / B 7 / R 15 / Rest Days 6 ; Total = 30 ; 27:40'00" - JoeP: S 10/ B 13/ R 10 / Rest Days 4; Total = 33 ; 42:29'50" - Ernesto: S 6 / B 12 / R 12/ Rest Days 4 ; Total = 30 ; 38:58'59" - Barry: S 6 / B 7 / R 15/ Rest Days 4 ; Total = 28 ; 23:15'05" - Mike: S 10 / B 4 / R 8 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 26 ; 25:34'08" - Jim: S 0 / B 14 / R 11 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 26 ; 24:03'39" (1pt post race) - Rachel: S 6 / B 9 /R 7 / Rest Days 5; Total = 24 (2 extra from race); 26:57'52" - Samyg S 7 / B 9 / R 8 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 24 ; 22:06':50" - Markz: S 2 / B 9/ R 12 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 23 ; 29:32'00" - Chris: S 5 / B 6 / R 8 / Rest Days 6 ; Total = 21 (2 extra from race); 21:19:04" - Marcia: S 4 / B 8 / R 8/ Rest Days 6 ; Total = 20 ; 24:21’ - Jennie: S 6 / B 5 / R 9/ Rest Days 5 ; Total = 20 ; 12:56'36" - Adrian: S 3 / B 8 / R 7 / Rest days 1 ; Total = 19 ; 21:12'53" - Jackie: S 3 / B 6/ R 3 / Rest Days 6 ; Total = 16 (4 extra from two races) ; 12:28'29" - Lynne: S 3 /B 3 / R 8 / Rest Days 5; Total= 14 ; 10:51'41" - Ted: S 0 / B 5 / R 5 / Rest Days 1 ; Total = 10 ; 9:56:00" - David: S 2 / B 2 / R6 / Rest Days 3 ; Total = 10 ; 08:48'15" - Charlotte S 1 / B 3 / R 5/ Rest Days 5 ; Total= 9 ; 06:12':00" - MatthewS: S 0 / B 3 / R 1/ Rest Days 1 ; Total = 4 ; 06:14'00" |
| 2012-05-27 8:57 PM in reply to: #4123283 |
Extreme Veteran 576 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed Rachel, I agree with Mark. Still do the longer workouts but go easier. I would not like to get sick no matter how far out from your IM. When I have had the flu in the past I found that sweating it out helps. |
| 2012-05-27 9:02 PM in reply to: #4231347 |
Expert 2811 | Subject: RE: Ernesto's group (4th season) - Closed 5.5 mile run with Scott, I think he ran a little further 49 minutes. - Mitch: S 7 / B 18 / R 18 / Rest Days 4 ; Total = 43 ; 28:50'30"
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