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2009-10-10 7:06 PM
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Thanks, I'm usually one of those people that freaks out more than I need to, because once I experience it for myself, then I'm like - Oh! That wasn't so bad! I'm stronger than I thought   I think I will likely start towards the back as well. 

 

 



2009-10-10 7:07 PM
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Started a thread in the weightloss challenge section for anyone interested in dropping some weight prior to training ramping up.  Feel free to join if you're interested.

2009-10-13 1:06 PM
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Anyone else doing a mary this winter in the off season prior to full IM training?  I have a 30k trail run in 11 days, one the month after that and then a mary in January.  Then it is bike building time and run maintainence.  

I am 1:25:xx swimmer, so I will be towards the back and outside for the start and then move in with the fish of a similar pace after the 5-10 minutes of settling in happens.  In practice keep your butt up to discourage folks from swimming over you as much 8).  

Run focus is fun, I am actually getting faster.  If only I can say the same thing in the spring on the bike.  That is where I have the biggest ability to make up time.  

Aero bars help alot, core is important for swim and bike, your neck will still get sore after about 70 miles or so... this will be fun.   
2009-10-13 1:28 PM
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atlrunnergirl - 2009-10-06 7:01 PM

I've been thinking about the swim a lot lately.  I've done a bunch of open water swimming, but the stories of washing machines and people getting kicked is definitely looming in the back of my mind.  I'm stoked to start training though, it's less than 9 months out!!!

In my one IM back in 2008 I was fearing the swim start as well. I found that it wasn't as bad as I made it out to be. Don't get me wrong, there was bumping, kicking, lots of contact, etc... but not what I had made it to be. I knew I was a 1:30 swimmer so I just stayed back at the cannon and took a slow walk to the water. I have started toward the front of smaller races and found it worse. Don't let it get to you too much. Be prepared, but don't stress.

x2.  I was freaking out about the swim in 2007.  Before that I was having panic attack issues during race swims.   I had similar panic issues at the start of CdA in 2007.  After about 15 minutes I settled down and completed the swim without incident.  In 2009 I actually enjoyed the swim.  I too am a slow 1:30ish swimmer.  Both times I stayed right and back for the start. In 2010, I might mix it up a little more and start in the middle of the pack in hopes of swimming faster. 

My only other advice is it is way to early to start worrying about the swim.  Worry about other things that are more important - bike & run fitness, along with race day nutrition.

Last thing - enjoy the entire experience, training AND race day!

2009-10-13 8:27 PM
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Thanks man!

Another question - are you guys planning on riding a road bike or a tri bike? I currently have a road bike with a compact 12-28, great granny gears!  That bike is really comfortable with my road fit, but the more I've tweaked it with aero bars, the less comfortable it's been.  I ride hill a LOT, so I'm not in aero as much as I should be (um, hardly much at all).  I'm making it a goal to get out and ride at least once a week where I can be in the bars and do some weekly trainer rides to get more comfortable.  I really want to get a tri bike (it's my reward when I hit my first weight loss goal), so I know that I need to be comfortable in aero.  I like the idea of being comfortable in that position, and then sitting up if I need to on the climbs.

I'm curious if a large percentage of racers will be on a tri bike, or if I should just stick to my road bike. 

 

2009-10-13 9:03 PM
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atlrunnergirl - 2009-10-13 6:27 PM

Thanks man!

Another question - are you guys planning on riding a road bike or a tri bike? I currently have a road bike with a compact 12-28, great granny gears!  That bike is really comfortable with my road fit, but the more I've tweaked it with aero bars, the less comfortable it's been.  I ride hill a LOT, so I'm not in aero as much as I should be (um, hardly much at all).  I'm making it a goal to get out and ride at least once a week where I can be in the bars and do some weekly trainer rides to get more comfortable.  I really want to get a tri bike (it's my reward when I hit my first weight loss goal), so I know that I need to be comfortable in aero.  I like the idea of being comfortable in that position, and then sitting up if I need to on the climbs.

I'm curious if a large percentage of racers will be on a tri bike, or if I should just stick to my road bike. 

 

I will, baring some kind of financial windfall or one heck of a deal coming along, be on my road bike. I have spent countless hours tweaking my fit and spend tons of time aero. So much, that when I tried road racing this summer my hands and wrists hated me for days as they were not used to holding the weight up.

Ride what you got, unless you can afford a new tri-bike. Notice I don't say "want" or "need", it is a given that we "want" and/ or "need" more bikes.



2009-10-13 9:21 PM
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atlrunnergirl - 2009-10-10 7:07 PM

Started a thread in the weightloss challenge section for anyone interested in dropping some weight prior to training ramping up.  Feel free to join if you're interested.

R U calling me FAT!!   jk  

2009-10-14 9:33 AM
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Selachophobia - 2009-10-13 9:21 PM

atlrunnergirl - 2009-10-10 7:07 PM

Started a thread in the weightloss challenge section for anyone interested in dropping some weight prior to training ramping up.  Feel free to join if you're interested.

R U calling me FAT!!   jk  

Hehe, nah, couldn't remember who else was interested when I threw out the option awhile back.  Dude, I gotta get this done in the offseason, which means fighting Halloween candy temptations, Thanksgiving and Christmas. 

2009-10-14 6:58 PM
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I only have a tri bike so um that is what I will be riding.  I wish I could go the full distance without my neck, back behind the shoulders getting stiff, but oh well. 
2009-10-14 7:41 PM
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I did my first IM at CDA this past June and can say without a doubt it was a fantastic, positive experience. It's a gorgeous setting that you need to see before the event as you won't pay attention to it during your race. It was so positive I literally asked myself as I crossed the finish line "when can I do another one!?"

With respect to strength/core training, I wish I had done some of that this last year. I've concentrated on running the last couple of months and have ended up with a hernia. A hernia is due, in part, to a weakness in the muscles of the groin and lower abdominals. My case was brought on by increased mileage and intensity but probably was set up during my IM training. After minor surgery and a short recovery, I'll be adding core training for sure.

Be sure to keep your training fun!
2009-10-15 7:07 AM
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captantony - 2009-10-13 11:28 AM

idahodan - 2009-10-10 1:03 AM

atlrunnergirl - 2009-10-06 7:01 PM

I've been thinking about the swim a lot lately.  I've done a bunch of open water swimming, but the stories of washing machines and people getting kicked is definitely looming in the back of my mind.  I'm stoked to start training though, it's less than 9 months out!!!

In my one IM back in 2008 I was fearing the swim start as well. I found that it wasn't as bad as I made it out to be. Don't get me wrong, there was bumping, kicking, lots of contact, etc... but not what I had made it to be. I knew I was a 1:30 swimmer so I just stayed back at the cannon and took a slow walk to the water. I have started toward the front of smaller races and found it worse. Don't let it get to you too much. Be prepared, but don't stress.

x2.  I was freaking out about the swim in 2007.  Before that I was having panic attack issues during race swims.   I had similar panic issues at the start of CdA in 2007.  After about 15 minutes I settled down and completed the swim without incident.  In 2009 I actually enjoyed the swim.  I too am a slow 1:30ish swimmer.  Both times I stayed right and back for the start. In 2010, I might mix it up a little more and start in the middle of the pack in hopes of swimming faster. 

My only other advice is it is way to early to start worrying about the swim.  Worry about other things that are more important - bike & run fitness, along with race day nutrition.

Last thing - enjoy the entire experience, training AND race day!

Add me to the list of 1:30 swimmers. In 2007 I started out to the right and ended up to the left next to the buoys. The jostling seemed the same to me so I just stayed next to the buoys for the remainder of the swim. In 2008 I deliberately started out next to the buoys to swim the shortest course and plan on doing so in 2010. It saved me three minutes. You're going to make contact no matter what so why not swim the shortest distance possible?



2009-10-15 1:00 PM
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Yep.  I'm running Vegas 26.2 in early Dec. 

Baowolf - 2009-10-13 1:06 PM Anyone else doing a mary this winter in the off season prior to full IM training?  I have a 30k trail run in 11 days, one the month after that and then a mary in January.  Then it is bike building time and run maintainence.  

I am 1:25:xx swimmer, so I will be towards the back and outside for the start and then move in with the fish of a similar pace after the 5-10 minutes of settling in happens.  In practice keep your butt up to discourage folks from swimming over you as much 8).  

Run focus is fun, I am actually getting faster.  If only I can say the same thing in the spring on the bike.  That is where I have the biggest ability to make up time.  

Aero bars help alot, core is important for swim and bike, your neck will still get sore after about 70 miles or so... this will be fun.   
2009-10-15 1:02 PM
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I have a question about lodging. 

Has anyone got advice to share with respect to finding a place to stay?  Do most folks coming from out of state stay in the area for the week prior, etc?  I figured I'd start with the CDA lodging list and go down it till I find a place, but would welcome any input. 

Thanks!

2009-10-15 1:05 PM
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leapdog - 2009-10-15 1:00 PM Yep.  I'm running Vegas 26.2 in early Dec. 

Baowolf - 2009-10-13 1:06 PM Anyone else doing a mary this winter in the off season prior to full IM training?  I have a 30k trail run in 11 days, one the month after that and then a mary in January.  Then it is bike building time and run maintainence.  

I am 1:25:xx swimmer, so I will be towards the back and outside for the start and then move in with the fish of a similar pace after the 5-10 minutes of settling in happens.  In practice keep your butt up to discourage folks from swimming over you as much 8).  

Run focus is fun, I am actually getting faster.  If only I can say the same thing in the spring on the bike.  That is where I have the biggest ability to make up time.  

Aero bars help alot, core is important for swim and bike, your neck will still get sore after about 70 miles or so... this will be fun.   

I am actually doing the Kansas City Marathon this Saturday but nothing this year after that....

2009-10-15 5:49 PM
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atlrunnergirl - 2009-10-13 5:27 PM

Thanks man!

Another question - are you guys planning on riding a road bike or a tri bike? I currently have a road bike with a compact 12-28, great granny gears!  That bike is really comfortable with my road fit, but the more I've tweaked it with aero bars, the less comfortable it's been.  I ride hill a LOT, so I'm not in aero as much as I should be (um, hardly much at all).  I'm making it a goal to get out and ride at least once a week where I can be in the bars and do some weekly trainer rides to get more comfortable.  I really want to get a tri bike (it's my reward when I hit my first weight loss goal), so I know that I need to be comfortable in aero.  I like the idea of being comfortable in that position, and then sitting up if I need to on the climbs.

I'm curious if a large percentage of racers will be on a tri bike, or if I should just stick to my road bike. 

 

Ride what you own.  I have done CDA twice on a road bike and three times on a tri bike.  I have not seen a huge difference in times between the two bikes.  Keep tweeking your set-up.  You should be able to find a comfortable aerobar set up for your road bike.  Riding lots over the winter will also help.

2009-10-16 4:56 PM
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Yea!  The thread is picking up!  I'm riding a road bike, hubby is riding a tri bike.  My next race is Boston in April!  I'm planning on starting core work anyday now.....  Cool

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Hi,
New to this site.  Thought I would say hello.  IMCDA '10 will be my first IM.  I am excited, and nervous...it really varies by day.  Training so far is going well. Laughing
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CDA will be my first IM too! My coach (Q here in BT land) did it in 2008. He is also racing it in 2010. I will be doing the ride on my P3 but I am planning on putting a compact crank on it for the race. I currently have 3 marathons and possibly a 50k planned for this winter. My first will be Nov 22nd  (my first full mary). Then Disney and Gasparilla. Then run maintenance will I hammer bike and swim training in the spring. St.A's in April, a HIM in May. All leading up too JUNE 27TH! Oh, I am hoping to get as close to an hour for the swim as possible. So I will be up in the washing machine start!

Funtimes!!!

2009-10-22 2:21 PM
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Welcome you 2.  Klondike, oh my gosh 4 26.2 + races in the winter and shooting for an hour swim.  The only place we are going to see each other is the starting line 8).  It sounds like with that kind of endurance and speed you are going to rock this thing.  The rest of us will be back in the 1:20:00-1:30:00 pile of bodies.  What times do you do for the marathons?   
2009-10-22 5:01 PM
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Oh my.  I just got it.  I thought that everyone here was saying that 1:30 swimmers - as in 1:30 / 100m were back of the pack?!?!  I thought I would be just fine, plodding along at 1:45 / 100.  I'm hoping to finish up the 2.4 somewhere between 1:05 - 1:10 as my Lake Stevens time was 34.  Sounds like I'll catch a bit of the mosh pit.  Cue the spin cycle!
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Sorry I meant finish time, 1:50 to 2:10 /100 pace = the rest of us washingmachine folks.


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Since the overall time of an IM for me is going to be 12:00+. I am thinking of hanging back for 5 minutes to avoid the churn of the swim start.

Any one done that?

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PintoRacer - 2009-10-27 5:27 PM Since the overall time of an IM for me is going to be 12:00+. I am thinking of hanging back for 5 minutes to avoid the churn of the swim start. Any one done that? Thanks,

I'll bet that you can not last 5 minutes.  After about 1 minute you'll be standing on the beach by yourself.  4 more minutes of standing there watching everyone swim away would drive me crazy.  At CDA I generally count to 20 and then hit the water.

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I did CDA this year and didn't really wait to hop in the water. Everyone is going crazy and T - you're right, waiting more than about 20 or 30 seconds would be murder on your adrenaline.

I started out towards the far right (away from the buoy's) and angled towards the last buoy. It was ok, but logged further distance than I wanted to. The second lap killed me - both my feet were cramped the entire 2nd lap...try swimming 1.2 with no ankle flexibility..haha. Anyhow, went from 1:30 swim to 1:51 in a hurry.

Hopefully works out better this next year.

I've enjoyed reading everyone's posts over the last few weeks (well, I read most all of them today). I love how there are newbies (which I still consider myself) and then the veterans - but everyone is encouraging and giving appropriate advice.

Keep up the good work everyone. If I could give one piece of advice to you first timers, it would be to not get over excited or crazy with "training" 8 months before. Just get a good solid base in over the next few months, then be prepared to hit it hard March/April and May.

Think I can go from 12+ hours to qualifying???
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I am in the 12+ hour club.  I really don't have any delusions of dropping to sub 10 in ten months of training.  I can see dropping 5-10 minutes off the swim, 30 off the bike and 10-20 off the run and well that would be way awsome.  Mostly I want to go from 12 something to 11 something this year.  It is going to take me another couple years to get my bike speeds up I am thinking.  The bike is really the only place I can make up any serious time, but I just enjoy doing a marathon in the winter.  Oh well.  Maybe after CDA I can get in an early mary and then a late IM in 2011 and go bike focused inbetween.   

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