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2013-04-17 10:19 AM
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Who's stepping up to the line this weekend?

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2013-04-17 10:22 AM
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jfought - 2013-04-17 11:19 AM

Who's stepping up to the line this weekend?

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I'm attempting my first 50-miler this Saturday.  Race starts at 6am and the cut off is 9pm.  Send me some good vibes.  I'm running it with a friend and we have made a pact that there will be NO discussion of quitting and we WILL cross the finish line together.  We'll be running with Boston in our hearts.

2013-04-17 10:30 AM
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Julia and Bruce,  I'm so glad everyone is safe and no one from our MG family was hurt in Boston.  Another BTer, DirkP (from my very first MG) was running his first Boston Marathon and his wife and two daughters were there supporting him.  They are all ok as well.

It was one of those days that you never want to go through again.  Where I live, someone had made a threat to kill 20 kids from various schools in Elkhart County on Monday the 15th, so we had extra security and only about half of our students in attendance on Monday.  Nothing happened here, but Mean People Suck!

 

2013-04-17 10:34 AM
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I am doing a dualthon on Sat. 3 miles on the run and 13.5 on the bike. I am sure my legs will not be happy. I am going to just go out and race to kinda gauge where I am. I hope my legs feel better than they did last Sunday.

What do you do to get legs prepared for running after biking?

 

2013-04-17 10:52 AM
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jfought - 2013-04-17 10:22 AM
jfought - 2013-04-17 11:19 AM

Who's stepping up to the line this weekend?

How about each of you post a question for the group?  Help me out.

I'm attempting my first 50-miler this Saturday.  Race starts at 6am and the cut off is 9pm.  Send me some good vibes.  I'm running it with a friend and we have made a pact that there will be NO discussion of quitting and we WILL cross the finish line together.  We'll be running with Boston in our hearts.

 

Woo Hoo Jayne.  Good luck!  It will all be good just pace yourself and stay upright.  It's amazing how the brain will work with your body to get you through the day.  My one piece of advice (not sure what kind of support is out there) but eat as often as you can to keep the energy up BUT eat only "safe" foods not matter how good something looks like at the moment. 

I made the mistake of eating from powerbar protein balls.  I knew lab food would not sit well in my gut.  Big mistake and I suffered for the next 5 miles and 45 min which is a really long time 30m into a 50m race.  It's defintely a different beast.  I never thought I could eat so much real food but I lived on uncrustables during my race.  Every stop - 1 sandwich.  Oh so yummy!

2013-04-17 11:06 AM
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mbehr1983 - 2013-04-17 10:34 AM

I am doing a dualthon on Sat. 3 miles on the run and 13.5 on the bike. I am sure my legs will not be happy. I am going to just go out and race to kinda gauge where I am. I hope my legs feel better than they did last Sunday.

What do you do to get legs prepared for running after biking?

 

 

I am running a 10miler on Sunday after a brutal Sat. workout.  I just hope my legs still work at the end.  I will be ready for my recovery week after this weekend.

As far as prepping for bike/run transition.  Bricks are the key.  Even if you do a short run after a tough bike, just getting your brain to trigger those run muscles into action really helps.  I've been doing race simulations for the past 10 weeks and I am amazed at how peppy my legs have been the past 2 weeks off the bike.  It has made a real difference.



2013-04-17 11:11 AM
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mbehr1983 - 2013-04-17 10:34 AM  What do you do to get legs prepared for running after biking?  

Use the Fatty method and take a really long time in T2.  Take several minutes, don't be in a hurry, maybe even sit down and give yourself a break.  Afterall, you just rode XX of miles, you probably deserve it!   Laughing



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That sounds likea great Ideal!! Maybe I could bring the wife over and have a picnic until my legs start feeling better. LOL
2013-04-17 4:53 PM
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mbehr1983 - 2013-04-18 1:34 AM

I am doing a dualthon on Sat. 3 miles on the run and 13.5 on the bike. I am sure my legs will not be happy. I am going to just go out and race to kinda gauge where I am. I hope my legs feel better than they did last Sunday.

What do you do to get legs prepared for running after biking?

 

I actually quite like running after biking! Maybe it's because I prefer running and maybe it's because you're already warmed up???

I always stand on the bike and stretch my calves and back in the last few minutes of the bike, seems to help.
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mbehr1983 - 2013-04-18 1:34 AM

I am doing a dualthon on Sat. 3 miles on the run and 13.5 on the bike. I am sure my legs will not be happy. I am going to just go out and race to kinda gauge where I am. I hope my legs feel better than they did last Sunday.

What do you do to get legs prepared for running after biking?

 

I actually quite like running after biking! Maybe it's because I prefer running and maybe it's because you're already warmed up???

I always stand on the bike and stretch my calves and back in the last few minutes of the bike, seems to help.

Hi David!   How's our next IM'er doing??? 

I also like to drop down into an easier gear so I am spinning at about 10 rpm over my normal and that seems to help.  I also try to jog out of transition at an easy pace and ease into a harder effort.  I am not much of a brick person, maybe one or two 30 minute runs off of longer bikes just for practice sake, but honestly not convinced they are very helpful to me.

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Just letting you know I'm still alive, I have been busy getting my wife on a training program for a 5K race.  I am training for a olympic distance and a 10 K right now.


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Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???
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Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???[/QUOTEiI'd do the 2k swim. Good ows practice. 5hr day week before the race sounds like a lot. Especially a 2 hr run.But if that's the plan......
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jfought - 2013-04-17 11:19 AM

Who's stepping up to the line this weekend?

How about each of you post a question for the group?  Help me out.

I am doing my first race of the season half mary at Rutgers....running for those in Boston to carry on. Good luck Jayne holy crap can't imagine going a full Marathon never mind 50. You will do awesome !!

All the best to everyone else that is racing this weekend

2013-04-18 9:33 PM
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copa2251 - 2013-04-18 5:04 PM

Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???

I think it's a great idea!  Enjoy!

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copa2251 - 2013-04-18 4:04 PM

Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???[/QUOTEiI'd do the 2k swim. Good ows practice. 5hr day week before the race sounds like a lot. Especially a 2 hr run.But if that's the plan......

I know what you mean about the 2 hr ride, 2 hr run 1 week before the IM. I did a search on the IM Distance thread and there's a bit discussion about it, one guy e-mailed Gale Bernhardt and she pretty much said do whatever run you feel like. I might limit it to 45 min.



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Another disaster long ride today! My rear derailleur snapped off! Luckily it happened just outside my house as I went home to refill bottles. I grabbed my wife's old heavy steel shopper bike and did the last 2 hours on that before my brick run. How long does it take to get a rear derailleur replaced?

P.S. I have a new respect for people cycling round on old heavy bikes, my 2 hours on one today was miserable!!!
2013-04-19 9:03 AM
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copa2251 - 2013-04-19 2:17 AM

Another disaster long ride today! My rear derailleur snapped off! Luckily it happened just outside my house as I went home to refill bottles. I grabbed my wife's old heavy steel shopper bike and did the last 2 hours on that before my brick run. How long does it take to get a rear derailleur replaced?

P.S. I have a new respect for people cycling round on old heavy bikes, my 2 hours on one today was miserable!!!

If you have a replaceable derailleur hanger it can be done in about 15 minutes. 

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copa2251 - 2013-04-19 12:17 AM

Another disaster long ride today! My rear derailleur snapped off! Luckily it happened just outside my house as I went home to refill bottles. I grabbed my wife's old heavy steel shopper bike and did the last 2 hours on that before my brick run. How long does it take to get a rear derailleur replaced?

P.S. I have a new respect for people cycling round on old heavy bikes, my 2 hours on one today was miserable!!!

Yikes!!! Good to get the mechanicals out of the way, so count your blessings, I guess!! And way to power through on a different, heavy bike! Race day will be a breeze!!!

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copa2251 - 2013-04-18 4:04 PM

Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???[/QUOTEiI'd do the 2k swim. Good ows practice. 5hr day week before the race sounds like a lot. Especially a 2 hr run.But if that's the plan......

I know what you mean about the 2 hr ride, 2 hr run 1 week before the IM. I did a search on the IM Distance thread and there's a bit discussion about it, one guy e-mailed Gale Bernhardt and she pretty much said do whatever run you feel like. I might limit it to 45 min.

 

I personally feel like a 2hr run is a bit much.  You are not going to gain anything from it at this point.  I would focus on going through the motions, working on the mental side, working on your nutrition, and getting your mind set for a long, successful day.  30-45 minutes tops on the run (closer to the 30)... Get the legs moving off the bike, settle the HR down, and get into that marathon pace.

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copa2251 - 2013-04-18 4:04 PM

Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???[/QUOTEiI'd do the 2k swim. Good ows practice. 5hr day week before the race sounds like a lot. Especially a 2 hr run.But if that's the plan......

I know what you mean about the 2 hr ride, 2 hr run 1 week before the IM. I did a search on the IM Distance thread and there's a bit discussion about it, one guy e-mailed Gale Bernhardt and she pretty much said do whatever run you feel like. I might limit it to 45 min.

 

I personally feel like a 2hr run is a bit much.  You are not going to gain anything from it at this point.  I would focus on going through the motions, working on the mental side, working on your nutrition, and getting your mind set for a long, successful day.  30-45 minutes tops on the run (closer to the 30)... Get the legs moving off the bike, settle the HR down, and get into that marathon pace.

Let me provide a counter point.  I do two big days as part of my IM build-up which does include a 2 hour run and I think it is useful from a mental standpoint.  My day might be a little different from David's--2.4m swim, 90' off, 5.5 hour very hilly bike, 90' off and then the 2 hour run.  You are running on tired legs and mentally you really have to keep it together or not.  It isn't something I would do a lot, but I think it can have it's place.  The last BIG DAY is usually about 4 weeks out from IM.



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copa2251 - 2013-04-18 4:04 PM

Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???[/QUOTEiI'd do the 2k swim. Good ows practice. 5hr day week before the race sounds like a lot. Especially a 2 hr run.But if that's the plan......

I know what you mean about the 2 hr ride, 2 hr run 1 week before the IM. I did a search on the IM Distance thread and there's a bit discussion about it, one guy e-mailed Gale Bernhardt and she pretty much said do whatever run you feel like. I might limit it to 45 min.

 

I personally feel like a 2hr run is a bit much.  You are not going to gain anything from it at this point.  I would focus on going through the motions, working on the mental side, working on your nutrition, and getting your mind set for a long, successful day.  30-45 minutes tops on the run (closer to the 30)... Get the legs moving off the bike, settle the HR down, and get into that marathon pace.

Let me provide a counter point.  I do two big days as part of my IM build-up which does include a 2 hour run and I think it is useful from a mental standpoint.  My day might be a little different from David's--2.4m swim, 90' off, 5.5 hour very hilly bike, 90' off and then the 2 hour run.  You are running on tired legs and mentally you really have to keep it together or not.  It isn't something I would do a lot, but I think it can have it's place.  The last BIG DAY is usually about 4 weeks out from IM.

I will unterps it.

I agree with you Suz, that can be a great day of training 4 weeks before the race.

But it is a HUGGGGGEEEE difference than 7 days!!!



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Quick question for IM'ers: next weekend is the Noosa Ultimate Sports festival and there's 3 ocean swims on offer, 1 km,2 km and 3.8km. My plan has a 1 hour swim then a 2 hr bike 2 hr run brick that day and my IM is the following weekend.

I'm thinking of doing the 2km ocean swim instead of my pool swim, it's on at 8am so I'll have plenty of time to get my brick done after, good idea or bad???[/QUOTEiI'd do the 2k swim. Good ows practice. 5hr day week before the race sounds like a lot. Especially a 2 hr run.But if that's the plan......

I know what you mean about the 2 hr ride, 2 hr run 1 week before the IM. I did a search on the IM Distance thread and there's a bit discussion about it, one guy e-mailed Gale Bernhardt and she pretty much said do whatever run you feel like. I might limit it to 45 min.

 

I personally feel like a 2hr run is a bit much.  You are not going to gain anything from it at this point.  I would focus on going through the motions, working on the mental side, working on your nutrition, and getting your mind set for a long, successful day.  30-45 minutes tops on the run (closer to the 30)... Get the legs moving off the bike, settle the HR down, and get into that marathon pace.

Let me provide a counter point.  I do two big days as part of my IM build-up which does include a 2 hour run and I think it is useful from a mental standpoint.  My day might be a little different from David's--2.4m swim, 90' off, 5.5 hour very hilly bike, 90' off and then the 2 hour run.  You are running on tired legs and mentally you really have to keep it together or not.  It isn't something I would do a lot, but I think it can have it's place.  The last BIG DAY is usually about 4 weeks out from IM.

I will unterps it.

I agree with you Suz, that can be a great day of training 4 weeks before the race.

But it is a HUGGGGGEEEE difference than 7 days!!!

COMPLETELY AGREE!!!!!  7 days before the race, I am fairly busy porking up and fretting about which kit to wear!

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Words can't describe how happy I am that the Boston Marathon bombers are dead and captured.  I hope the gov't doesn't screw it up and the remaining bomber gets what he deserves.  

Good luck to our racers.  GO SAM, GO JAYNE and anyone else I missed.

Happy Weekend!

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Went and did my first multisport (dualthon) race this morning. When I signed up, I put 2:15 on the estimated finish time. I finished in 1:51:32!! The number I was shooting for was 2 hours or less and goal accomplished. I am waiting on the results then I will post the report.
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