Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes) (Page 62)

Originally posted by amd723



I ordered from Amazon - no taxs, free shipping.

Originally posted by amd723


Same thing happened to me.

Originally posted by Asalzwed



Because first, a lot like people's advice on training with groups (masters, group rides etc) you can only push yourself so hard. It's the people that push you a little harder than you think you can go. Second, the race environment can really only be simulated by well, a race. It's only then when everything comes together (nutrition, hydration, race pace, nerves, race strategy etc.) then you can get a true evaluation (which is what tune ups are all about)

Originally posted by Richardsdrr

Cherry Popped........Survived............Sucked at swim......................Got work now, will RR tomoz.................Luv yer all, bye.

Originally posted by bcraht

"RACE" REPORT:

Met Salty at brewery.
Rode 21 miles at 16mi/hr pace.
Drank a beer.
Met Salty's cute piglet cousin.
Drank another beer.
Rode return 21 miles at 15.7mi/hr pace.
Ran 1.25km at "slightly" slower than Salty's pace.
Drank 2 more beers.
The end.

Originally posted by melbo55

Just popping in to say my tri went very well this morning. For sure I beat my bike and run times from last year (knowledge courtesy of my Garmin), but don't know about swim and overall times yet. Had a lot of fun at the race, hanging out with the tri club and racing. Although I think something was amiss with their timing printouts which they were posting as they came in, namely I was missing. And some others, too, but I will feel much better when I see the official results and see my name in black and white!

Ann-Marie - awesome idea to take advantage of Garmin's huge-mongous sale/discount on the 910XT. Oh, believe me, the thought was going through my mind as well (and still is lingering), let us know how you like it!!

Originally posted by TriAya



As much as I hate giving Salty any kind of pleasure or satisfaction right now, unfortunately, she's actually frequently right.

While I don't think a planned trained-for tune-up race hurts anybody, there are two general groups of people for whom they are most valuable (pretty much for the same reason) ... and it happens that most people are going to fall into those categories.

First are folks going into a new distance. It doesn't matter that the tune-up race isn't of that distance; a new distance means your training has also been new/more/different. The tune-up is to see where you are at NOW, at this different level of training (and frankly to also to assess whether it's been effective as intended and to be able to make any changes to it while you still can). A race is going to be a more accurate assessment of that.

Second are folks aiming for a definite goal. Look, if I decided to do a mary a few months from now in a gorilla suit (hope it's somewhere cold), just to have fun and waddle it, I do not need a tune-up race. Have done marys. Have done halfs. Have done them dressed up. Have done them untrained.

However, if I actually decided to use a running-oriented (e.g., not Galloway), goal-oriented training plan and run a marathon for time, despite my experience at the marathon distance, yes, I still need a tune-up race. If the goal weren't important to me, I'd just do it in a gorilla suit. But if it is important to me, and I've put X training in specifically geared toward that, then I want an accurate as possible assessment and test of that training at a point where a) I'm prepared for it, and b) it's still far enough out that I can make adjustments (to training and/or race execution plan).

Originally posted by bcraht


I know right? And you are welcome, you arrogant, imperialistic, I can't remember the word you used, American

Originally posted by Asalzwed


It's slipping my mind but I think it started with an "A"

Originally posted by ponderingfox Feeling crummy over the weekend. Have crud trying to get down into my lungs. Must resist! No long ride today. Is it better to make up a long ride later in the week, or just drop it if I'm not feeling better by tomorrow?

Originally posted by TriAya



You guys keep leaving out the most important part ...

IS THE CUTE PIGLET COUSIN SINGLE???

Originally posted by reneehoyos



Do those GPS watches work well under a canopy? Here in E. TN the trees are so thick its like running at night! I've been adding the miles up using a trail map, but not sure of the accuracy.

Originally posted by jobaxas



I hit F5 to refresh and my workout appeared then the server went down

Originally posted by brigby1

Generally, just skip the workout and move on. Don't just "make up" workouts. It'll mess up the work/recovery balance. If you're missing an important part of training a number of times, then you might look to rework your schedule. But not for just one. If it was a key pacing session, or fitness test (like an FTP test), then you might look to reschedule it. But for those you'd look at at least the several days around it.

Originally posted by TriAya



Yup. Rest up, heal up, refoxify.

Originally posted by bcraht I have had mixed results. If you get a good signal prior to going under the canopy, they can usually give not bad accuracy. I'm not usually under trees for my whole run though.

Originally posted by QueenZipp

Thanks all for the feedback, so yeah it sounds like the tune up race IS necessary.

My options are Do the August 24 race here that will have similar elevations to the November race or a travel to VA Beach in September which will be pancake flat (windy) and require a weekend hotel stay as those hotels do not book single night stays.

IF I do the August race, I would probably start the training plan 2 weeks sooner then just lengthen the taper so I wouldn't mess the drop bck week so much. Does this make sense? Is there a better option I am not seeing?

Originally posted by Asalzwed



Awwwwweeee yeeeeaaah! See, that's what I would have written if I had a real keyboard

Originally posted by bcraht


Nope, no workout this AM, even despite hitting F5...