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 2014-05-01 11:17 AM in reply to: ratherbeswimming |
Champion  10550    Austin, Texas |  Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing AroundOriginally posted by ratherbeswimming I went to one of those chain bike stores last night. My friend's seat post clamp sheared off and I live really close to the store he goes to (he gets big discounts after buying a MTB there) so I offered to drop it off. Holy cow! The incompetence!! First guy tried to tighten it. I showed him more than once that it was no longer attached to the frame, and tightening it would do nothing. Second guy lectures me on wrenching on carbon without a torque wrench. It was the aluminum sleeve in the carbon frame that sheared - no damage to the carbon. Last guy insisted I was doing it wrong, and the clamp should go around the carbon, and that the sheared off piece was really a shim... until I showed him how perfectly it matched the rest of the insert... then he understood what really happened, which I knew already. The more I learn about bikes, the more picky I get about who touches mine (or anyone else's) The upside? Felt is replacing his frame for him, because the seat post clamp is FUBAR, which is awesome. Holy crap... the mechanics are telling you this??? That's kind of troubling - especially since they're supposed to know what the hell they're doing. We're learning which stores to NEVER take our bikes back to, which (thankfully) is a fairly small list so far |
| 2014-05-01 11:19 AM in reply to: mehaner |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl OMG - this totally made my day... just try to watch this without smiling and laughing! http://jezebel.com/fifth-graders-perform-hilarious-synchronized-swimming-r-1570109700
hey noob, this already has its own thread! Yeah, so?? Not everyone ventures out to other threads because they can be (a) scary; (b) aggravating to the point of wanting to go stabby; (c) not worth anyone's time; (d) there are other threads on BT?; so I thought I'd help. hahah great answer! I find (b) and (c) to be the most common... |
| 2014-05-01 11:25 AM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
Pro 6191  | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I went to one of those chain bike stores last night. My friend's seat post clamp sheared off and I live really close to the store he goes to (he gets big discounts after buying a MTB there) so I offered to drop it off. Holy cow! The incompetence!! First guy tried to tighten it. I showed him more than once that it was no longer attached to the frame, and tightening it would do nothing. Second guy lectures me on wrenching on carbon without a torque wrench. It was the aluminum sleeve in the carbon frame that sheared - no damage to the carbon. Last guy insisted I was doing it wrong, and the clamp should go around the carbon, and that the sheared off piece was really a shim... until I showed him how perfectly it matched the rest of the insert... then he understood what really happened, which I knew already. The more I learn about bikes, the more picky I get about who touches mine (or anyone else's) The upside? Felt is replacing his frame for him, because the seat post clamp is FUBAR, which is awesome. Holy crap... the mechanics are telling you this??? That's kind of troubling - especially since they're supposed to know what the hell they're doing. We're learning which stores to NEVER take our bikes back to, which (thankfully) is a fairly small list so far I wanted to scream I AM AN ENGINEER! I know what sheared aluminum looks like and I know what part failed where here. First one may not have been a mechanic. Second two were. Last guy wouldn't touch it and said to just call Felt. Which, turns out, was the right answer anyway. I also called my friend and yelled at him and told him to never, ever take his bikes there, even if he gets good discounts |
| 2014-05-01 11:45 AM in reply to: ratherbeswimming |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around I have my place to take my bikes and haven't waivered. Actually, I have my GUY. He worked for one shop and liked his work, then when he moved to another shop, followed. But honestly? Other than a once a year tune up just for the heck of it? I rarely take it in at all. I can fix just about anything unless it's frame damage. If it's simply replacing a part? I do it myself (unless it's warrantee work). I'm currently worried about an oily rear shock after a hard day of riding. I hope I didn't blow a seal. I may have them take a look at that... OR, for you MTB riders, do you notice oil when you beat the rear shock up particularly hard? I haven't really noticed it since that ride BUT I could swear that it rebounds a little faster (less damping with less oil). |
| 2014-05-01 11:51 AM in reply to: Kido |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by Kido I have my place to take my bikes and haven't waivered. Actually, I have my GUY. He worked for one shop and liked his work, then when he moved to another shop, followed. But honestly? Other than a once a year tune up just for the heck of it? I rarely take it in at all. I can fix just about anything unless it's frame damage. If it's simply replacing a part? I do it myself (unless it's warrantee work). I'm currently worried about an oily rear shock after a hard day of riding. I hope I didn't blow a seal. I may have them take a look at that... OR, for you MTB riders, do you notice oil when you beat the rear shock up particularly hard? I haven't really noticed it since that ride BUT I could swear that it rebounds a little faster (less damping with less oil). I swapped/upgraded my crankset and cockpit, so I called in my guy. Turns out, you crew their 24 hour MTB race, and after that, a 6-pack covers labor Can't help ya on the MTB shock question though. Sorry. |
| 2014-05-01 12:22 PM in reply to: Kido |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by Kido I have my place to take my bikes and haven't waivered. Actually, I have my GUY. He worked for one shop and liked his work, then when he moved to another shop, followed. But honestly? Other than a once a year tune up just for the heck of it? I rarely take it in at all. I can fix just about anything unless it's frame damage. If it's simply replacing a part? I do it myself (unless it's warrantee work). I'm currently worried about an oily rear shock after a hard day of riding. I hope I didn't blow a seal. I may have them take a look at that... OR, for you MTB riders, do you notice oil when you beat the rear shock up particularly hard? I haven't really noticed it since that ride BUT I could swear that it rebounds a little faster (less damping with less oil). I wish I had a guy that I could go to and trust that he was going to do a good job. I had a fantastic mechanic for my motorcycle and I just KNEW that taking it to him meant that everything was going to get taken care of. Huh, really no point at all to my post other than to post pad. |
| 2014-05-01 12:25 PM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Kido I have my place to take my bikes and haven't waivered. Actually, I have my GUY. He worked for one shop and liked his work, then when he moved to another shop, followed. But honestly? Other than a once a year tune up just for the heck of it? I rarely take it in at all. I can fix just about anything unless it's frame damage. If it's simply replacing a part? I do it myself (unless it's warrantee work). I'm currently worried about an oily rear shock after a hard day of riding. I hope I didn't blow a seal. I may have them take a look at that... OR, for you MTB riders, do you notice oil when you beat the rear shock up particularly hard? I haven't really noticed it since that ride BUT I could swear that it rebounds a little faster (less damping with less oil). I wish I had a guy that I could go to and trust that he was going to do a good job. I had a fantastic mechanic for my motorcycle and I just KNEW that taking it to him meant that everything was going to get taken care of. Huh, really no point at all to my post other than to post pad. This is TAN, where there doesn't have to be a point to what you say, and it only makes your numbers look better :-P |
| 2014-05-01 12:30 PM in reply to: ratherbeswimming |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Yaaaay, pointless words on the internets! I fit right in. Hi TAN |
| 2014-05-01 12:41 PM in reply to: ratherbeswimming |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Kido I have my place to take my bikes and haven't waivered. Actually, I have my GUY. He worked for one shop and liked his work, then when he moved to another shop, followed. But honestly? Other than a once a year tune up just for the heck of it? I rarely take it in at all. I can fix just about anything unless it's frame damage. If it's simply replacing a part? I do it myself (unless it's warrantee work). I'm currently worried about an oily rear shock after a hard day of riding. I hope I didn't blow a seal. I may have them take a look at that... OR, for you MTB riders, do you notice oil when you beat the rear shock up particularly hard? I haven't really noticed it since that ride BUT I could swear that it rebounds a little faster (less damping with less oil). I wish I had a guy that I could go to and trust that he was going to do a good job. I had a fantastic mechanic for my motorcycle and I just KNEW that taking it to him meant that everything was going to get taken care of. Huh, really no point at all to my post other than to post pad. This is TAN, where there doesn't have to be a point to what you say, and it only makes your numbers look better :-P Sweeeeeeeeeeet!!! And I'm almost at 10,000 posts! No wonder I don't get a lot done some days... |
| 2014-05-01 12:42 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Champion 10550 Austin, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by Asalzwed Yaaaay, pointless words on the internets! I fit right in. Hi TAN I hope you've seen that you have a new record to strive for in the beer mile???
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| 2014-05-01 12:48 PM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
| Seattle | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Asalzwed Yaaaay, pointless words on the internets! I fit right in. Hi TAN I hope you've seen that you have a new record to strive for in the beer mile???
The good news for me is that there are male and female records. Agh! So I have been trying to figure out what I wanted to do next. Beer mile! DUH!!! Thanks Mon, I am now recommitted!!!!!
BTW the fastest female record is 6:45 fastest female in WA state is 9:21. |
| 2014-05-01 1:17 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Staff appreciation day tomorrow. We have a couple a year. Giving us a paid afternoon off tomorrow and take us to a movie (Spiderman) and buy us movie theater snacks... Some people have loaded up in the past (hot dogs, soda, popcorn, candy - all of it), but I'm good with popcorn and a soda. I need it. Busted out some big items this week - however, now I don't have anything to do! |
| 2014-05-01 1:22 PM in reply to: Kido |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by Kido Staff appreciation day tomorrow. We have a couple a year. Giving us a paid afternoon off tomorrow and take us to a movie (Spiderman) and buy us movie theater snacks... Some people have loaded up in the past (hot dogs, soda, popcorn, candy - all of it), but I'm good with popcorn and a soda. I need it. Busted out some big items this week - however, now I don't have anything to do! is it weird that i HATE popcorn? like hate it. it has no taste. it's like chomping on styrofoam. and the SOUND of people eating popcorn? ugh. i am so anti-popcorn! |
| 2014-05-01 1:29 PM in reply to: mehaner |
Pro 5761 Bartlett, TN | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Tonight is Game 6 of the Grizzlies vs Thunder game and my wife is making me go to a middle school band booster meeting and then to a wedding!
Who gets married on a Thursday anyways??????
might be feeling a stomach bug coming on (wink wink) |
| 2014-05-01 1:30 PM in reply to: mehaner |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by Kido Staff appreciation day tomorrow. We have a couple a year. Giving us a paid afternoon off tomorrow and take us to a movie (Spiderman) and buy us movie theater snacks... Some people have loaded up in the past (hot dogs, soda, popcorn, candy - all of it), but I'm good with popcorn and a soda. I need it. Busted out some big items this week - however, now I don't have anything to do! is it weird that i HATE popcorn? like hate it. it has no taste. it's like chomping on styrofoam. and the SOUND of people eating popcorn? ugh. i am so anti-popcorn! Even white cheddar cheese popcorn? OMG - so good. |
| 2014-05-01 1:33 PM in reply to: Kido |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by Kido Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by Kido Staff appreciation day tomorrow. We have a couple a year. Giving us a paid afternoon off tomorrow and take us to a movie (Spiderman) and buy us movie theater snacks... Some people have loaded up in the past (hot dogs, soda, popcorn, candy - all of it), but I'm good with popcorn and a soda. I need it. Busted out some big items this week - however, now I don't have anything to do! is it weird that i HATE popcorn? like hate it. it has no taste. it's like chomping on styrofoam. and the SOUND of people eating popcorn? ugh. i am so anti-popcorn! Even white cheddar cheese popcorn? OMG - so good. it's a texture thing...so much work for so little payoff. bleck. i can tolerate the kernel-less kind sometimes. |
| 2014-05-01 1:34 PM in reply to: jford2309 |
Champion 14571 the alamo city, Texas | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by jford2309 Tonight is Game 6 of the Grizzlies vs Thunder game and my wife is making me go to a middle school band booster meeting and then to a wedding!
Who gets married on a Thursday anyways??????
might be feeling a stomach bug coming on (wink wink) someone saving a ton of money!!!! vendors double or triple their prices on a saturday. i got married on a friday |
| 2014-05-01 1:41 PM in reply to: ratherbeswimming |
Champion 7704 Williamston, Michigan | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I went to one of those chain bike stores last night. My friend's seat post clamp sheared off and I live really close to the store he goes to (he gets big discounts after buying a MTB there) so I offered to drop it off. Holy cow! The incompetence!! First guy tried to tighten it. I showed him more than once that it was no longer attached to the frame, and tightening it would do nothing. Second guy lectures me on wrenching on carbon without a torque wrench. It was the aluminum sleeve in the carbon frame that sheared - no damage to the carbon. Last guy insisted I was doing it wrong, and the clamp should go around the carbon, and that the sheared off piece was really a shim... until I showed him how perfectly it matched the rest of the insert... then he understood what really happened, which I knew already. The more I learn about bikes, the more picky I get about who touches mine (or anyone else's) The upside? Felt is replacing his frame for him, because the seat post clamp is FUBAR, which is awesome. Holy crap... the mechanics are telling you this??? That's kind of troubling - especially since they're supposed to know what the hell they're doing. We're learning which stores to NEVER take our bikes back to, which (thankfully) is a fairly small list so far I wanted to scream I AM AN ENGINEER! I know what sheared aluminum looks like and I know what part failed where here. First one may not have been a mechanic. Second two were. Last guy wouldn't touch it and said to just call Felt. Which, turns out, was the right answer anyway. I also called my friend and yelled at him and told him to never, ever take his bikes there, even if he gets good discounts this is because you are a WOMAN and they are MEN and think you don't know WTF is going on. I have experienced this many times in bike stores. Makes me stabby as you say. I am no bike mechanic but i ride enough to know when there is something wrong with my bike |
| 2014-05-01 1:44 PM in reply to: mehaner |
Champion 7704 Williamston, Michigan | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by mehaner Originally posted by Kido Staff appreciation day tomorrow. We have a couple a year. Giving us a paid afternoon off tomorrow and take us to a movie (Spiderman) and buy us movie theater snacks... Some people have loaded up in the past (hot dogs, soda, popcorn, candy - all of it), but I'm good with popcorn and a soda. I need it. Busted out some big items this week - however, now I don't have anything to do! is it weird that i HATE popcorn? like hate it. it has no taste. it's like chomping on styrofoam. and the SOUND of people eating popcorn? ugh. i am so anti-popcorn! I dont' like popcorn either. When I was a kid one of the little shells of a kernal suction cupped to the back of my throat. ACKACAKCK. |
| 2014-05-01 2:49 PM in reply to: Socks |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by Socks Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I went to one of those chain bike stores last night. My friend's seat post clamp sheared off and I live really close to the store he goes to (he gets big discounts after buying a MTB there) so I offered to drop it off. Holy cow! The incompetence!! First guy tried to tighten it. I showed him more than once that it was no longer attached to the frame, and tightening it would do nothing. Second guy lectures me on wrenching on carbon without a torque wrench. It was the aluminum sleeve in the carbon frame that sheared - no damage to the carbon. Last guy insisted I was doing it wrong, and the clamp should go around the carbon, and that the sheared off piece was really a shim... until I showed him how perfectly it matched the rest of the insert... then he understood what really happened, which I knew already. The more I learn about bikes, the more picky I get about who touches mine (or anyone else's) The upside? Felt is replacing his frame for him, because the seat post clamp is FUBAR, which is awesome. Holy crap... the mechanics are telling you this??? That's kind of troubling - especially since they're supposed to know what the hell they're doing. We're learning which stores to NEVER take our bikes back to, which (thankfully) is a fairly small list so far I wanted to scream I AM AN ENGINEER! I know what sheared aluminum looks like and I know what part failed where here. First one may not have been a mechanic. Second two were. Last guy wouldn't touch it and said to just call Felt. Which, turns out, was the right answer anyway. I also called my friend and yelled at him and told him to never, ever take his bikes there, even if he gets good discounts this is because you are a WOMAN and they are MEN and think you don't know WTF is going on. I have experienced this many times in bike stores. Makes me stabby as you say. I am no bike mechanic but i ride enough to know when there is something wrong with my bike Any idiot could see what happened: http://imgur.com/VI845p9 |
| 2014-05-01 3:11 PM in reply to: jford2309 |
Champion 10471 Dallas, TX | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by jford2309 Tonight is Game 6 of the Grizzlies vs Thunder game and my wife is making me go to a middle school band booster meeting and then to a wedding!
Who gets married on a Thursday anyways??????
might be feeling a stomach bug coming on (wink wink) People who need to save money get married on a Thursday! |
| 2014-05-01 3:14 PM in reply to: ratherbeswimming |
Elite 4344 | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I am an idiot so I feel qualified to speak. It looks like the seat post clamp was torqued down too much. Did the owner of the bike have problem with the seat post slipping? Was the seat post original equipment? It might be a bit small in diameter or something.Originally posted by Socks Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I went to one of those chain bike stores last night. My friend's seat post clamp sheared off and I live really close to the store he goes to (he gets big discounts after buying a MTB there) so I offered to drop it off. Holy cow! The incompetence!! First guy tried to tighten it. I showed him more than once that it was no longer attached to the frame, and tightening it would do nothing. Second guy lectures me on wrenching on carbon without a torque wrench. It was the aluminum sleeve in the carbon frame that sheared - no damage to the carbon. Last guy insisted I was doing it wrong, and the clamp should go around the carbon, and that the sheared off piece was really a shim... until I showed him how perfectly it matched the rest of the insert... then he understood what really happened, which I knew already. The more I learn about bikes, the more picky I get about who touches mine (or anyone else's) The upside? Felt is replacing his frame for him, because the seat post clamp is FUBAR, which is awesome. Holy crap... the mechanics are telling you this??? That's kind of troubling - especially since they're supposed to know what the hell they're doing. We're learning which stores to NEVER take our bikes back to, which (thankfully) is a fairly small list so far I wanted to scream I AM AN ENGINEER! I know what sheared aluminum looks like and I know what part failed where here. First one may not have been a mechanic. Second two were. Last guy wouldn't touch it and said to just call Felt. Which, turns out, was the right answer anyway. I also called my friend and yelled at him and told him to never, ever take his bikes there, even if he gets good discounts this is because you are a WOMAN and they are MEN and think you don't know WTF is going on. I have experienced this many times in bike stores. Makes me stabby as you say. I am no bike mechanic but i ride enough to know when there is something wrong with my bike Any idiot could see what happened: http://imgur.com/VI845p9 |
| 2014-05-01 3:19 PM in reply to: tech_geezer |
Pro 6191 | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by tech_geezer Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I am an idiot so I feel qualified to speak. It looks like the seat post clamp was torqued down too much. Did the owner of the bike have problem with the seat post slipping? Was the seat post original equipment? It might be a bit small in diameter or something. Originally posted by Socks Originally posted by ratherbeswimming Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by ratherbeswimming I went to one of those chain bike stores last night. My friend's seat post clamp sheared off and I live really close to the store he goes to (he gets big discounts after buying a MTB there) so I offered to drop it off. Holy cow! The incompetence!! First guy tried to tighten it. I showed him more than once that it was no longer attached to the frame, and tightening it would do nothing. Second guy lectures me on wrenching on carbon without a torque wrench. It was the aluminum sleeve in the carbon frame that sheared - no damage to the carbon. Last guy insisted I was doing it wrong, and the clamp should go around the carbon, and that the sheared off piece was really a shim... until I showed him how perfectly it matched the rest of the insert... then he understood what really happened, which I knew already. The more I learn about bikes, the more picky I get about who touches mine (or anyone else's) The upside? Felt is replacing his frame for him, because the seat post clamp is FUBAR, which is awesome. Holy crap... the mechanics are telling you this??? That's kind of troubling - especially since they're supposed to know what the hell they're doing. We're learning which stores to NEVER take our bikes back to, which (thankfully) is a fairly small list so far I wanted to scream I AM AN ENGINEER! I know what sheared aluminum looks like and I know what part failed where here. First one may not have been a mechanic. Second two were. Last guy wouldn't touch it and said to just call Felt. Which, turns out, was the right answer anyway. I also called my friend and yelled at him and told him to never, ever take his bikes there, even if he gets good discounts this is because you are a WOMAN and they are MEN and think you don't know WTF is going on. I have experienced this many times in bike stores. Makes me stabby as you say. I am no bike mechanic but i ride enough to know when there is something wrong with my bike Any idiot could see what happened: http://imgur.com/VI845p9 Yup - sheared off the top part of the seat clamp. The dang thing has been squeaking for MONTHS. I think it was the original seatpost, but I'm not certain. The other half of the top part of that aluminum sleeve is missing. My theory is that perhaps that piece was somehow long gone, leading to a somewhat loose seat post, incessant squeaking, and torquing the half that was left to failure.
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| 2014-05-01 4:11 PM in reply to: blueyedbikergirl |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl Originally posted by Kido I have my place to take my bikes and haven't waivered. Actually, I have my GUY. He worked for one shop and liked his work, then when he moved to another shop, followed. But honestly? Other than a once a year tune up just for the heck of it? I rarely take it in at all. I can fix just about anything unless it's frame damage. If it's simply replacing a part? I do it myself (unless it's warrantee work). I'm currently worried about an oily rear shock after a hard day of riding. I hope I didn't blow a seal. I may have them take a look at that... OR, for you MTB riders, do you notice oil when you beat the rear shock up particularly hard? I haven't really noticed it since that ride BUT I could swear that it rebounds a little faster (less damping with less oil). I wish I had a guy that I could go to and trust that he was going to do a good job. I had a fantastic mechanic for my motorcycle and I just KNEW that taking it to him meant that everything was going to get taken care of. Huh, really no point at all to my post other than to post pad. When and if I can't solve it, I'm kind of in trouble. Most kids are FAR worse than me. But Sean where I used to work and Steve (ex-USA Olympic team mechanic), I trust. It's hard to hire and keep good people in a bike shop. The pay isn't great and they have to cut and hire based on the season. Right now, owners are calling everyone they know who Ivan stand upright and talk at the same time they're so busy. |
| 2014-05-01 4:13 PM in reply to: KSH |
Champion 16151 Checkin' out the podium girls | Subject: RE: TAN #203: TANese New Year - Horsing Around Originally posted by KSH Originally posted by jford2309 Tonight is Game 6 of the Grizzlies vs Thunder game and my wife is making me go to a middle school band booster meeting and then to a wedding!
Who gets married on a Thursday anyways??????
might be feeling a stomach bug coming on (wink wink) People who need to save money get married on a Thursday! Impose the question if who the he11 gives a rat's Azeri about the NBA? Really? I'd car mor about hockey or May baseball than an NBA playoff game. |
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