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2008-07-29 9:27 AM
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cami bee - 2008-07-29 9:54 AM I'm not a big fan of "decision support system". Who came up with that one?

Why not? The title says what it does.

Because we people throw it around all the time. And sometimes they don't really need a "decision support system", they just need a couple hundred lines or code or a halfway decent web page. Decision Support Systems can be big complex things, but often times they are just dinky little software programs. But then again, I get annoyed when everyone is a beer and/or wine connoisseur and is dropping lots of fancy terms that they picked up from watching a few episodes of Rachel Ray.

Does it help with making a decision?  Then technically it's a decision support system.  They don't all have to be huge modeling programs.  There are subsets.

A more recent term is Business Intelligence.  It's replacing DSS, but could still technically be classed as a DSS.

Rachel Ray misuses terms. 



2008-07-29 9:27 AM
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2008-07-29 9:30 AM
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chadtower - 2008-07-29 9:25 AM It just occurred to me after reading that wedding band thread... that if my wife dropped her wedding ring into a bowl of rings I would have zero chance of picking it out. Is that bad?

I do not have that problem, luckily.  My wife's wedding ring is a One-of-a-kind, especially made ring.  Her daughters and her had always talked about what kind of ring she wanted if she got married again.  Her first ring is very small and not well made, because she was married very young and they had absolutely no money.  So, when it started to becaome clear to the girls that it might happen, they took me to this website where you could design your own ring and they did it the way she wanted it.  Then they had a local jeweler make it and there ya be.  It was a good surprise.  The oldest told me it was the best way to get her to say yes, just in case she was thinking about saying no. 

2008-07-29 9:31 AM
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Subject: RE: TANgents welcome (#36)
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:27 AM
cami bee - 2008-07-29 10:16 AM
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:01 AM

cami bee - 2008-07-29 9:54 AM I'm not a big fan of "decision support system". Who came up with that one?

Why not? The title says what it does.

Because we people throw it around all the time. And sometimes they don't really need a "decision support system", they just need a couple hundred lines or code or a halfway decent web page. Decision Support Systems can be big complex things, but often times they are just dinky little software programs. But then again, I get annoyed when everyone is a beer and/or wine connoisseur and is dropping lots of fancy terms that they picked up from watching a few episodes of Rachel Ray.

Does it help with making a decision? Then technically it's a decision support system. They don't all have to be huge modeling programs. There are subsets.

A more recent term is Business Intelligence. It's replacing DSS, but could still technically be classed as a DSS.

Rachel Ray misuses terms.

True.  But people try to make it seem like it is a huge modelling program, I guess that's what I have the problem with, really.  Business Intelligence - one would hope that your business isn't stupid. 

My mom loves Rachel Ray.  I will say that it has got her cooking more (at least in terms of variety). 

2008-07-29 9:31 AM
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jdwright56 - 2008-07-29 10:23 AM
October 25th is the day of reckoning, and there will be tiger blood spilled on your home field.

(ooooooh, spooky!!!)



I don't doubt it, since we're without a QB. Should be an interesting game.
2008-07-29 9:32 AM
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Rynamite - 2008-07-29 10:27 AM

Nine Inch Nails-Wish

Good song.

I'm not much if a NIN fan... but I like this one.



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2008-07-29 9:35 AM
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2008-07-29 9:35 AM
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heading into work......been gone since Thursday morning hope I dont have a ton of stuff waiting for me!

Race Report is up

 http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=125863&posts=1&start=1

2008-07-29 9:38 AM
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Subject: RE: TANgents welcome (#36)
cami bee - 2008-07-29 10:31 AM
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:27 AM
cami bee - 2008-07-29 10:16 AM
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:01 AM

cami bee - 2008-07-29 9:54 AM I'm not a big fan of "decision support system". Who came up with that one?

Why not? The title says what it does.

Because we people throw it around all the time. And sometimes they don't really need a "decision support system", they just need a couple hundred lines or code or a halfway decent web page. Decision Support Systems can be big complex things, but often times they are just dinky little software programs. But then again, I get annoyed when everyone is a beer and/or wine connoisseur and is dropping lots of fancy terms that they picked up from watching a few episodes of Rachel Ray.

Does it help with making a decision? Then technically it's a decision support system. They don't all have to be huge modeling programs. There are subsets.

A more recent term is Business Intelligence. It's replacing DSS, but could still technically be classed as a DSS.

Rachel Ray misuses terms.

True. But people try to make it seem like it is a huge modelling program, I guess that's what I have the problem with, really. Business Intelligence - one would hope that your business isn't stupid.

My mom loves Rachel Ray. I will say that it has got her cooking more (at least in terms of variety).

More often than not, they are large scale modeling programs.  Really there is no standardized definition of DSS.  Looking at the general term, it could be anything.  But most people do look at them as large system used for "wargaming" options.

Most businesses are stupid.  They seldom know what they're doing, and they have all kinds of data but no idea what it means, or even how to use it.  BI is an attempt to rectify that situation, and to give timely, accurate information to the people that need it.  So a CEO has a different perspective than a sales guy (tactical vs. strategic), and will therefore need different information and a different perspective of things.

Ray irritates me to no end.  While the food is generally good, and fairly interesting without going over the top, her mannerisms are so annoying as to make her unwatchable.  Plus, you don't saute with olive oil, I don't care how many times she says she is. 

2008-07-29 9:42 AM
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Subject: RE: TANgents welcome (#36)
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:38 AM
cami bee - 2008-07-29 10:31 AM
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:27 AM
cami bee - 2008-07-29 10:16 AM
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:01 AM

cami bee - 2008-07-29 9:54 AM I'm not a big fan of "decision support system". Who came up with that one?

Why not? The title says what it does.

Because we people throw it around all the time. And sometimes they don't really need a "decision support system", they just need a couple hundred lines or code or a halfway decent web page. Decision Support Systems can be big complex things, but often times they are just dinky little software programs. But then again, I get annoyed when everyone is a beer and/or wine connoisseur and is dropping lots of fancy terms that they picked up from watching a few episodes of Rachel Ray.

Does it help with making a decision? Then technically it's a decision support system. They don't all have to be huge modeling programs. There are subsets.

A more recent term is Business Intelligence. It's replacing DSS, but could still technically be classed as a DSS.

Rachel Ray misuses terms.

True. But people try to make it seem like it is a huge modelling program, I guess that's what I have the problem with, really. Business Intelligence - one would hope that your business isn't stupid.

My mom loves Rachel Ray. I will say that it has got her cooking more (at least in terms of variety).

More often than not, they are large scale modeling programs.  Really there is no standardized definition of DSS.  Looking at the general term, it could be anything.  But most people do look at them as large system used for "wargaming" options.

Most businesses are stupid.  They seldom know what they're doing, and they have all kinds of data but no idea what it means, or even how to use it.  BI is an attempt to rectify that situation, and to give timely, accurate information to the people that need it.  So a CEO has a different perspective than a sales guy (tactical vs. strategic), and will therefore need different information and a different perspective of things.

Ray irritates me to no end.  While the food is generally good, and fairly interesting without going over the top, her mannerisms are so annoying as to make her unwatchable.  Plus, you don't saute with olive oil, I don't care how many times she says she is. 

Give me Giada DeLaurentis any day.

2008-07-29 9:43 AM
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2008-07-29 9:43 AM
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Subject: RE: TANgents welcome (#36)
Scout7 - 2008-07-29 9:38 AM

Ray irritates me to no end. While the food is generally good, and fairly interesting without going over the top, her mannerisms are so annoying as to make her unwatchable. Plus, you don't saute with olive oil, I don't care how many times she says she is.

I don't watch TV, so I have only seen about one partial episode of her show when home with my mother. I hear that she does annoy many people to no end.  What gets me is all of the random product placement she does.  I've seen her face popping out at me from unlikely places like the cracker aisle.  Seriously?? 

2008-07-29 9:49 AM
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jdwright56 - 2008-07-29 7:42 AM

Give me Giada DeLaurentis any day.

Paula Dean is a hottie now that she has gone all hollywood.  Fake tan, face lift....

Her husband also looks like he has spent too much of her money on the beaches of Boca Raton.

2008-07-29 9:52 AM
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I get that Rachael Ray can be annoying. But seriously... 30 minute meals from start to finish! She does not do ANY of that prep work the other shows do (and here are a bajillion things already chopped up, measured, and ready to go - oh and I already simmered the sauce for an hour) - no she walks to the fridge, gets the veggies, chops them in front of you.

But what Food Network really needs is a vegetarian/vegan show. Sigh.
2008-07-29 9:54 AM
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jdwright56 - 2008-07-29 10:30 AM

I do not have that problem, luckily. My wife's wedding ring is a One-of-a-kind, especially made ring. Her daughters and her had always talked about what kind of ring she wanted if she got married again. Her first ring is very small and not well made, because she was married very young and they had absolutely no money. So, when it started to becaome clear to the girls that it might happen, they took me to this website where you could design your own ring and they did it the way she wanted it. Then they had a local jeweler make it and there ya be. It was a good surprise. The oldest told me it was the best way to get her to say yes, just in case she was thinking about saying no.




I didn't buy my wife's ring. Her grandmother had died about a year before our wedding and no one knew what to do with her wedding ring. She only had two sons and they are both long married. My wife is by far the oldest grandchild and the only one that had a close relationship with the grandmother. We were just getting out of college with no cash and school debt to our eyeballs so the decision was made that the grandmother would be quite happy with my wife using her ring. The wife's family guarded the thing so closely that looking back I barely ever even saw the thing and I'm just now realizing I've barely looked at it since. The stone is pretty big. I tried to get my wife to have it appraised for insurance but she refuses since she doesn't want a monetary value attached to it. Personally I think she's afraid they will find out that big rock is fake.
2008-07-29 9:56 AM
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lisac957 - 2008-07-29 9:52 AM I get that Rachael Ray can be annoying. But seriously... 30 minute meals from start to finish! She does not do ANY of that prep work the other shows do (and here are a bajillion things already chopped up, measured, and ready to go - oh and I already simmered the sauce for an hour) - no she walks to the fridge, gets the veggies, chops them in front of you. But what Food Network really needs is a vegetarian/vegan show. Sigh.

They had one a couple of years ago - I can't remember what it was called.  lasted about 3 to 6 months.  Didn;t take with the food network crowd.  It came out at the same time as that guy with the "regular food with diet calories" show that failed miserably.



2008-07-29 9:57 AM
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chadtower - 2008-07-29 9:54 AM

I didn't buy my wife's ring. Her grandmother had died about a year before our wedding and no one knew what to do with her wedding ring. She only had two sons and they are both long married. My wife is by far the oldest grandchild and the only one that had a close relationship with the grandmother. We were just getting out of college with no cash and school debt to our eyeballs so the decision was made that the grandmother would be quite happy with my wife using her ring. The wife's family guarded the thing so closely that looking back I barely ever even saw the thing and I'm just now realizing I've barely looked at it since. The stone is pretty big. I tried to get my wife to have it appraised for insurance but she refuses since she doesn't want a monetary value attached to it. Personally I think she's afraid they will find out that big rock is fake.


Family jewelry is awesome! Really it would be a good idea to get it appraised though! How bad would she feel if it was stolen and there was no way to replace it becuase she never had it appraised?

And also - when my grandmother died, we were all looking forward to ransacking going through her jewelry collection. My mom and I took all of the stuff that looked real into a jeweler to get appraised. Her signature ROCKS? Fake.

She had secretly pawned the diamonds who knows how many years ago and had them replaced with fake stones. We were wondering why she didn't leave any of her big diamonds to anyone in the will.
2008-07-29 9:58 AM
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I watched her show once.  Or rather tried to watch it.  Then turned it off.

I think she has interesting recipes, sure.  I don't really watch most of those cooking shows, anyway.  Bobby Flay also irritates me, but for different reasons.  I don't watch Food Network very often, the occasional episode of Iron Chef is about it.

2008-07-29 9:59 AM
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lisac957 - 2008-07-29 10:57 AM

Family jewelry is awesome! Really it would be a good idea to get it appraised though! How bad would she feel if it was stolen and there was no way to replace it becuase she never had it appraised?



I don't think the money would mean a thing to my wife if the ring were lost. You can't replace the heirloom with cash.
2008-07-29 10:00 AM
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chadtower - 2008-07-29 9:59 AM

lisac957 - 2008-07-29 10:57 AM

Family jewelry is awesome! Really it would be a good idea to get it appraised though! How bad would she feel if it was stolen and there was no way to replace it becuase she never had it appraised?



I don't think the money would mean a thing to my wife if the ring were lost. You can't replace the heirloom with cash.


Oh, no I get that.
But if you're talking like a $10,000 ring you woudn't want the replacement money?
2008-07-29 10:03 AM
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jdwright56 - 2008-07-29 9:42 AM

Give me Giada DeLaurentis any day.


Giada has way more teeth than most humans.


2008-07-29 10:04 AM
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TheSchwamm - 2008-07-29 10:03 AM

jdwright56 - 2008-07-29 9:42 AM

Give me Giada DeLaurentis any day.


Giada has way more teeth than most humans.


True. And way more boobage.
2008-07-29 10:05 AM
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I like Alton Brown's shows because he is a dork like me.

The ex's ring had some of my nona's diamonds in it. Thankfully, I was able to get them back.
2008-07-29 10:05 AM
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I need to design a fix for a sanitary sewer today....

That is one task that I'm glad I'm not a contractor.  Trying to bypass an active sanitary sewer?  Ick...

2008-07-29 10:05 AM
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lisac957 - 2008-07-29 11:00 AM

Oh, no I get that.
But if you're talking like a $10,000 ring you woudn't want the replacement money?



I'm right there with you. I can't see it being that much but it's still a good chunk of change. Can't get her to do it, though. She always points out that she can't get the ring off even if she wanted to so it shouldn't matter. I guess she didn't learn from discovering that the amethyst in her engagement ring fell out and was lost.

(yeah, amethyst. We was po college students. )
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