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2008-07-06 1:30 PM
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I am so Sorry to hear about your wife!! You and your family will be in my prayers!

 



2008-07-06 3:35 PM
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mman,

I hope you have as much quality time with your wife as possible.  When her time comes I hope she is at peace and without pain.  I cannot imagine what you and your family are going through, I will pray for you.

2008-07-06 3:52 PM
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mman - my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

I wish peace for you all - the love is there.

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2008-07-06 6:18 PM
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mman-prayers and peace to you and your family.
2008-07-07 8:14 AM
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mman - I am praying for you, your wife, and your kids. I don't think anyone can really imagine what you are going through, and there are truly no words that can help.  Just know that we all would bear this burden for you if we could....

I haven't checked in for a while, but things have been very good lately. I've been good and consistent about my training which always helps, and my hubby's got a new job that he's much happier with, which helps a bunch too! All in all, I'm in a good place and have been for a while, so I am very thankful. I hope you all are doing well, too, and enjoying some summer fun! Keep those updates coming!

2008-07-07 8:25 AM
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Greg, you and your family are in my thoughts and in my heart. I wish you peace.


2008-07-07 8:36 AM
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mman - 2008-07-06 2:25 PM

lots of hard days ahead. the support that i receive through bt has been phenomenal. thank you!




I'm keeping your family in my thoughts. Positive energy headed your way!
2008-07-07 9:56 AM
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Thoughts and prayers for all of you.

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2008-07-07 1:40 PM
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Greg,

 

My heart breaks for you.

 

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2008-07-07 2:02 PM
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Mman, I think Whizzzzz said it best: my heart breaks for you. Big hugs... you and your family are in my thoughts. 

New to this thread, though not to this topic. Responded to the original thread in Tri Talk without realizing that it was an old thread that had been revived, but anyway, I'm here now and glad to know that this thread/network is here. Not exactly sure where to start... this must be what it's like to go to one's first Al Anon meeting: "Hi, I'm Anne and I struggle with depression." "Hi Anne."

I'm keeping up with my training pretty well at the moment, but when I'm tired from a long workout or a hard training day, my defenses often slip and the depressive tendencies start to seep back in. I sort of don't realize that I'm constantly pushing back against the depression until I don't have the energy to hold it off anymore. I basically stall out and crash until I've had a chance to recharge, usually with sleep. I know it's not just plain tiredness because I exhibit the same symptoms and thought patterns that I have when I'm in a clinical episode. 

Has anyone else experienced this? I've been using training as a way to keep my moods on an even keel, but it now seems that with increased training comes increased susceptibility to the very thing I'm trying to keep at bay. And I'm not even at my max foreseeable training volume: I'm at 12 hours/week at the moment and will probably peak at 14-15 hours/week before my HIM in September. Next year I'm considering doing my first IM, which will obviously involve even more training. I like what tri training does for my stability most of the time, but these mini-episodes are starting to bother me, both for my own sake and my boyfriend's (who has to deal with me when I'm crashing). I'm also concerned that eventually it will snowball or trigger me into a more prolonged episode... and obviously I don't want that.

Thoughts? At the moment I'm considering going back into therapy when I start IM training, maybe even earlier, to help me manage all this. In the meantime, I'm really glad that this thread is here. Cheers and best wishes to all. 
2008-07-07 2:11 PM
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Hey Anne - good to see you here.

I am afraid that, for me, I basically had to cut back on training to find the level that kept me balanced. I used to be an ultrarunner, but since the anxiety stuff kicked in, I've scaled back to a level where the exercise helps me, instead of causing more anxiety like you mentioned.

For example, I started a marathon training program, but had to scale that back once I got to the 8mile long runs. For tri's, I've had to stick mostly with sprint distance and an occasional (ok, one so far) Olympic distance race.

I love to do longer stuff as I am a 'go forever slowly' kind of person, but when I have to train that much the rest of my life gets out of balance and then my emotions go haywire.

Adding in some yoga and pilates has helped me too. and I'm just trying to find peace with staying at this level instead of ticking off the distances on my goal chart. SOMEDAY I will do HIM or IM (or both) but it's going to be when there are fewer other things in my life.

I think that getting some extra support when you bump your training is a great idea, and come here often, too :-) Like in the 12 steps, it works if you work it!

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2008-07-13 1:17 PM
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Hey all!

I am pretty new to BT.. but came across this thread.

I believe it was 3 years ago, I was diagnosed with OCD, depression and anxiety. Looking back.. I have had these problems all my life. I have been on different meds trying to find the right one. Currently on 200 mg a day of Zoloft (generic) with Ambilify which is supposed to help with the OCD (mainly obsessing over things). My psychiatrist is weaning me off the Ambilify though since it is the likely cause of me gaining 30 extra pounds.

I am coming off a 3-year layoff from triathlon. I guess it's no coincidence that these problems came to light as my training went south. I know I feel better when I am training.. so I am trying to get back into that now. Triathlon is good and bad for me though.. I get depressed knowing how much I have lost over these 3 years.

I am going back into therapy. I will be seeing a therapist that I initially worked with 3 years ago. I guess looking back, the therapy wasn't successful since I am still having problems. But I am prepared to try again even though I am not sure if this guy is right for me. He uses hypnosis as part of the therapy (voluntary of course), but I really don't believe in it. I think because the hypnosis didn't have any effect, I sort of "turned off" with this guy. But I am going to give him (and myself) another chance. I do feel I can talk freely with him.. I just question his methods. He didn't have me keep a journal or anything. We just talked. I really don't think I gained any insight into why I feel this way however. But his office is close to where I work, so it will be easier to see him than someone else. Plus, I don't relish the possibility of trying to find another therapist (like with trying to find the right medication).

I am starting to ramble..

But nice to meet everyone and I plan to keep lurking in this thread.
2008-07-15 3:19 PM
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Hi everyone. I am just devastated for no big reason. I feel like I can do nothing right, am all alone, and am just exhausted. Nothing ever works out and I'm going to just give up. I don't know what to do. I don't even have time to go to a doctor or figure any of that out.

I think I am going to skip out on my tri I have planned this weekend and I told my fiancee that I want him to break up with me.

To add insult to injury, my boss walked into my office with me BAWLING. NICE. I hate myself.
2008-07-15 4:52 PM
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hey when you guys are just feeling "blah" how do you pick yourself up to get what you need done. I have felt so "blah" lately and I have no motivation to do the jobs I have to do or workout I just feel like sitting doing nothing and eating. any ideas to help motivate me?
2008-07-15 5:07 PM
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annabananamc - 2008-07-07 12:11 PM Hey Anne - good to see you here. I am afraid that, for me, I basically had to cut back on training to find the level that kept me balanced. I used to be an ultrarunner, but since the anxiety stuff kicked in, I've scaled back to a level where the exercise helps me, instead of causing more anxiety like you mentioned. For example, I started a marathon training program, but had to scale that back once I got to the 8mile long runs. For tri's, I've had to stick mostly with sprint distance and an occasional (ok, one so far) Olympic distance race. I love to do longer stuff as I am a 'go forever slowly' kind of person, but when I have to train that much the rest of my life gets out of balance and then my emotions go haywire. Adding in some yoga and pilates has helped me too. and I'm just trying to find peace with staying at this level instead of ticking off the distances on my goal chart. SOMEDAY I will do HIM or IM (or both) but it's going to be when there are fewer other things in my life. I think that getting some extra support when you bump your training is a great idea, and come here often, too :-) Like in the 12 steps, it works if you work it! AB

Thanks, annabanana. (I love your name, btw--my parents used to call me that when I was little. ) I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who feels a bit off balance when the training really starts to stack up. I'm going to be pretty disappointed, though, if it turns out that sustaining this kind of training volume means feeling like a boat without a keel. I'd really like to do IM someday, but perhaps, as you said, it will have to wait until a calmer period in life. I'm still hopeful that I can figure out how to stay balanced with this training load, perhaps if I take advantage of more of the resources at my disposal (including this thread!) and time my long workouts and bedtimes appropriately. We'll see. I'll definitely be hanging out around here, though.
2008-07-15 5:55 PM
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runrachierun - 2008-07-15 1:19 PM Hi everyone. I am just devastated for no big reason. I feel like I can do nothing right, am all alone, and am just exhausted. Nothing ever works out and I'm going to just give up. I don't know what to do. I don't even have time to go to a doctor or figure any of that out. I think I am going to skip out on my tri I have planned this weekend and I told my fiancee that I want him to break up with me. To add insult to injury, my boss walked into my office with me BAWLING. NICE. I hate myself.

Hey Rachel, I think I speak for all of us here when I say you are NOT alone. On the contrary, you are cared for and valued, and there are many people (here and outside of BT) who understand what it's like for everything to feel so wrong. I know it's hard to see the good things--ANY good things--and that the negatives seem to stack up higher and higher. Hang in there. As mman said a few months ago, find one positive thing, just one, and repeat it to yourself. Write it down and keep it in your wallet/purse if that helps. 

I don't know anything about your situation, but can you take sick leave for a doctor's appointment? One of the things I'm learning is that my health is a priority, so it's important to MAKE time for things that help me stay grounded. 

Sending big hugs your way... 


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Hi everyone.

I'm new to the triathlon world but not new to the depression world. Looking back on it, I think I have probably been depressed my whole life but either didn't know it or was afraid to own up to it. The last 18 months have been pretty hellish for me. I found out something about my husband that has caused me to want to get divorced. We are still living in the same house because I can't get up enough courage or strength to just throw him out. We are not in a good place financially and I think that is part of what is stopping me. We had a huge fight on July 3rd and I realized then that I don't have any fight left in me. As a result, we are going to stay together until we get more financially stable.

I think that weekend was the darkest period in my life. Last year, I often had suicidal thoughts because I didn't think I had what it took to deal with my situation. July 5th was my worst day. It was very dark for me. I think the only thing that saved me was getting out of the house and going to a park. There was something about watching little kids that pulled me out of the darkness. I've been so-so since then, but still know I need professional help. I've only gone to one psychologist in the past and that turned out to be a very horrible experience.

I do have a couple of questions though. What doc to you go to to get medicated? Can I go to my GP or do I need to find a psychiatrist? I was probably going to ask for my doc to put me on Wellbutrin as I am also trying to quit smoking and have heard that med is also good for that. And how do I find a quality psychologist? It seems now my best bet is putting their names up on a dart board and choosing that way. If any of you are in the Chicagoland area and have a good doc in the west/northwest suburbs, please pass their names along. I'm looking for a male psychologist as the first one I had was female and she left a bad taste in my mouth.

And mman, my heart goes out to you. Most of the time I believe that God never gives you more than you can handle (except when it applies to me). You sound like a very strong man and your wife and kids are equally as amazing. My thoughts and prayers are with you and I believe that God will get you through this and send you people to support and uplift you and your family during this time.
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tricupcake - 2008-07-16 12:27 PM Hi everyone. I'm new to the triathlon world but not new to the depression world. Looking back on it, I think I have probably been depressed my whole life but either didn't know it or was afraid to own up to it. The last 18 months have been pretty hellish for me. I found out something about my husband that has caused me to want to get divorced. We are still living in the same house because I can't get up enough courage or strength to just throw him out. We are not in a good place financially and I think that is part of what is stopping me. We had a huge fight on July 3rd and I realized then that I don't have any fight left in me. As a result, we are going to stay together until we get more financially stable. I think that weekend was the darkest period in my life. Last year, I often had suicidal thoughts because I didn't think I had what it took to deal with my situation. July 5th was my worst day. It was very dark for me. I think the only thing that saved me was getting out of the house and going to a park. There was something about watching little kids that pulled me out of the darkness. I've been so-so since then, but still know I need professional help. I've only gone to one psychologist in the past and that turned out to be a very horrible experience. I do have a couple of questions though. What doc to you go to to get medicated? Can I go to my GP or do I need to find a psychiatrist? I was probably going to ask for my doc to put me on Wellbutrin as I am also trying to quit smoking and have heard that med is also good for that. And how do I find a quality psychologist? It seems now my best bet is putting their names up on a dart board and choosing that way. If any of you are in the Chicagoland area and have a good doc in the west/northwest suburbs, please pass their names along. I'm looking for a male psychologist as the first one I had was female and she left a bad taste in my mouth. And mman, my heart goes out to you. Most of the time I believe that God never gives you more than you can handle (except when it applies to me). You sound like a very strong man and your wife and kids are equally as amazing. My thoughts and prayers are with you and I believe that God will get you through this and send you people to support and uplift you and your family during this time.

 

tricupcake,

I'm sorry for all you are going through. It sounds like a very difficult time. And thank you for your kind words. I don't feel very strong sometimes but you are right, God will get me through.

Regarding docs, start with your GP. They can certainly treat depression and prescribe Wellbutrin, Zoloft, etc. Yes, Wellbutrin is supposed to help with smoking. I've been taking it for a few years and really like it. I'll probably stay on it for the rest of my life just cause it makes me feel better but not medicated. I also like Cymbalta - newer drug with few side effects. A psychiatrist can certainly help you, but may be overkill. I know you've had some dark days, but it sounds like you are able to bounce back at least somewhat. That's big. I started seeing a psychiatrist when I couldn't bounce back. In the end, I'm on the same meds that my GP gave me. The psychiatrist gave me some stronger stuff at first to get me back up but I don't have to take that anymore. Also, psychiatrists can take months to get into.

Hang in there. Get some help. And I'll be praying that the situation with your marriage can be resolved soon. 

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For meds, try to go thru your health insurance first....check with your emplyer and their health plan...they may have some sort of Employee Assistance Program that could help. Generally these programs deal with additictions, but they also often have resources for depression and mental illness. Do you go to Church? Maybe your parish priest or minister or rabbi might know someone local?

I am in Chicago. I cant help with a referral. I see a doc down in the loop. I got referred by the Illinois Bar Association Lawyer's Assistance Program--I am an attorney, its for attorneys only.

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2008-07-16 7:22 PM
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Yes, come on back Chris - it's a good group here, we all just keep keepin' on ....

it's been a day gang, but I'm still glad to be here.
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Mman - Greg lost his wife today. Her long battle with cancer is over. He posted this in COJ. I wanted to mention this here in case some you don't frequent COJ. You may want to pop over to his blog and show him support.

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Just checking to see how everyone is doing.  Had a rough summer but things seem to be getting better.  I was very sad to hear about Greg's wife and my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.
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Reno8 - 2008-08-04 11:21 AM

Just checking to see how everyone is doing.  Had a rough summer but things seem to be getting better.  I was very sad to hear about Greg's wife and my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.


I'm sorry you are having a tough time.

I have had a really rough summer and finally took the med leap. I started Paxil on Friday...my doctor also gave me a prescription for Xanax as needed...I haven't needed it yet. Aside from nausea, it's been ok. I guess it will take a few weeks to start doing anything, and in any event, I am on a baby dose...but I can't believe that I finally did this.
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