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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Holy Smokes! Count me in, too! HRM/RPE group, please. Thank you for doing this, Jorge. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am in w/ HR monitor. Thanks! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am late to the party, but in. Thanks for doing this. |
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Member![]() | ![]() This sounds great, I am new to this and weak in every area. Improving anywhere will be a benifit. Thanks Jorge!!! |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm in too! I've got a powermeter and a new roadmachine so sign me up. Man BT colors are going to be at the front of every bike split across the country if this keeps up! Thanks Jorge. Andy, |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I was looking for motivation to get those clothes off my bike/trainer set up! Thanks Jorge, I'm in with an HRM and trainer and an under-utilized Netflix plan. |
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Expert![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm going to try the program, with trainer and HRM. |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Ok peeps, this is how it is going to work. In order to be respectful to the other coaches on BT and the plans offered in this site, etc. this was moved to the mentor thread. Please save the link on your log or just got to my log and you can find it on the top. The way I am going to deliver the training plan is going to be through my blog located at: http://jorgepbmcoaching.blogspot.com/ where I will post the sessions for the given week; one plan for those training with a power meter and one for those training with HRM or RPE. This will always be at the top of the blog and also on the links to the right under training plans I am going to post Q&As, how to do your tests, calculate you training zones and all the necessary information for you to follow the plan. In terms of questions, use this thread to fire away any questions you might have. I will review this thread every day and try my best to keep up and answer. As you know the response is been amazing and I am happy I can help such a big group, however if it takes me a bit to get back to you please be patient. If any of the more experienced posters knows the answer to certain questions please don’t be afraid to jumping on and help! Please only this thread to questions We won’t do the 1st round of tests until week # 3 for that reason the first few weeks you’ll do the sessions based on RPE or your most recent HRM/power training sessions and just adjust accordingly. We just want to easy up into the plan and get you ready to push so don’t stress much about it for that time. Just do the sessions and be consistent. Finally I was thinking of ways in which we can keep each other motivated and help us stay focused through the plan and the winter. Maybe we could start a thread on the challenge forum and form teams or something and see which team has the greatest improvement over the duration over the plan. The group with a greater % of improvement will be the winner and we could think of something as a price. That’s just an idea but I am all ears for better suggestions, whatever it takes to help most of you stay on track and become stronger cyclists over the winter! I posted the plan for the 1st week already plus notes info: Keep in mind the sessions might seems a bit complicated at 1st but it is very simple. You will always have a warm up, a main session done in sets (intervals) and a cool down. Sessions are set by time same as intervals which usually are either minutes or seconds and the intensity is always a % of your Threshold. Rest intensity and duration for each interval is always between parentheses. Let me know what you guys think! |
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Queen BTich![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Wow! Thanks Jorge! I was confused at first but then I saw the terminology explained...much better. I assume these are just 3 workouts, whatever days work for us? |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Comet - 2008-11-11 11:15 PM Yes, from the notes link: Wow! Thanks Jorge! I was confused at first but then I saw the terminology explained...much better. I assume these are just 3 workouts, whatever days work for us? - I suggest to do Q1 on Tuesday, Q2 on Thursday and Q3 on Saturday. If that is not possible you can do sessions on Mon, Wed, Fri or just make sure to leave 48 hrs in between sessions. For those doing cycling focus you can add a Q4 on Sunday or any other date that works for you. |
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Champion![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks again for doing this, Jorge. Quick question: I have a CompuTrainer and plan to follow the HRM plan. Should I simply use the CT in ergometer mode rather than select a bike course to make it easier to maintain HR ranges? If so, should I always use it set at the same wattage for resistance? Thanks! |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi Jorge, First I would like to thank you for putting work into a nice biking plan for the winter that will help a ton of people on BT I like the chalenge idea, that would give us some team support to help during the harder time. I started reading the plan and notice something, maybe I don't read it well but I want to make sure. In the Q1 of week one you post that we should do WU#2 (5') then 10 x 30" interval with 30" easy, then ride for 10' and we finish with a 5' CD. The session should be 40' but if I understand what you wrote then I count a 30' session. Is it me that missed something? Thank you in advance Edited by rlejeune 2008-11-12 8:23 AM |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rlejeune - 2008-11-12 8:22 AM That was I typo from my end. It should be WU #1 which is 15 min. Then 20 min for the main set and 5 min for the cool down it will be 40 min total. I will fix it when I get home. Thanks for the heads up!Hi Jorge, First I would like to thank you for putting work into a nice biking plan for the winter that will help a ton of people on BT I like the chalenge idea, that would give us some team support to help during the harder time. I started reading the plan and notice something, maybe I don't read it well but I want to make sure. In the Q1 of week one you post that we should do WU#2 (5') then 10 x 30" interval with 30" easy, then ride for 10' and we finish with a 5' CD. The session should be 40' but if I understand what you wrote then I count a 30' session. Is it me that missed something? Thank you in advance |
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Extreme Veteran![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi Jorge, If I am using a CT, I usually just ride the IMF course because it doesn't have a lot of big hills but it has some. Can I use your training plan on this course or should I do the training in ergo mode? I have never used the ergo mode so I wasn't sure. Thanks
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Newb question here. I recently got a HRM so I don't have all the zone stuff down yet. If my max heart rate is roughly 185 on the bike then zones run like this? LTHR 1 < 125 2. 126-153 3. 154-173 4. 174-195 5. 196+ kind of confused here, how do you get above your max heart rate or am I missing something? |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lumber Dad - 2008-11-12 10:07 AM you could for sure. You can ride in any mode as long as you can hold the suggest power for each interval.Hi Jorge, If I am using a CT, I usually just ride the IMF course because it doesn't have a lot of big hills but it has some. Can I use your training plan on this course or should I do the training in ergo mode? I have never used the ergo mode so I wasn't sure. Thanks |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Baowolf - 2008-11-12 10:24 AM Newb question here. I recently got a HRM so I don't have all the zone stuff down yet. If my max heart rate is roughly 185 on the bike then zones run like this? LTHR 1 < 125 2. 126-153 3. 154-173 4. 174-195 5. 196+ kind of confused here, how do you get above your max heart rate or am I missing something? You will do another test (yeah fun Anyway, if the session tells you to ride 4x5’ @ 95-100% of HR, that means you should do four intervals of 5 minutes each and on each one you should strive to hit and intensity between 175 (95% of 185) and 185 bpm (your LTHR). In this session you are asked to push at or just below your LTHR because the training adaptation we seek is to help you improve your fitness/power at LTHR. IOW if you were to do a 40K time trial at your LTHR today, you would avg ‘x’ speed. If you follow the plan then at the end of it, your speed will be faster at the same LTHR repeating the test under the same circumstances. Another example: If the session tells you to do 5x1’ @ 105-110% of HR it means you should do 5 intervals of 1 minute each and on each one you should strive to hit and intensity between 194 (105% of 185) and 203 bpm. (110% of HR). In this session you are ask you to push harder because the training adaptation we seek is to help you improve your fitness/power at VO2 maxYou have a range of instensity for every intesity because 1) we want to produce specific adapations (improve LT, VO2, etc) and 2) so you can choose the end of the range that your body can handle on a given day. When you are feeling good and rested you will be able to strive for the high end of the range and on days in which you are tired you will only managed to stay on the lower end. Does that make sense? |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I believe you have confused max heart rate and lactate threshold heart rate. The HR zones in the plan are based on a percentage of lactate threshold heart rate (LTHR; which is lower than max HR). So it is possible to workout at >LTHR, i.e. 106% of LTHR. It looks like you took 185 (your max HR) then calculated the zones using the %'s in the plan. That's not the way to do it. The zones in the plan are based on LTHR. If you haven't done an LTHR test then you can not calculate the zones using the %'s in the plan. You could use your max and one of formulas to calculate zones. In your training log there is a link to heart rate data where you can use your max HR and the formulas (not the best way to calculate zones, but it's a start. Later do a LTHR test). |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Yep that is exactly what I did. My 185 is the 5 minute all out effort. I would be ded if I did an hour at 185.... well about 15 min into it anyway. My 1 hour all out effort is 165 (ish), haven't done one recently. But I guess that will change soon 8). I will redue my math and work up from there. |
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Coach![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Baowolf - 2008-11-12 12:21 PM Yep that is exactly what I did. My 185 is the 5 minute all out effort. I would be ded if I did an hour at 185.... well about 15 min into it anyway. My 1 hour all out effort is 165 (ish), haven't done one recently. But I guess that will change soon 8). I will redue my math and work up from there. Yes, just adjust your effort accordingly for the next few weeks and when in doubt go by perceived exertion. Once you do the testing you'll know your LTHR and training zones |
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![]() | ![]() Count me in. Thank you very much. |
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Elite![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() This should be pretty sweet. I'm looking at this to take my Lonestar bike split from 2:41 down to sub-2:30. |
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