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2013-10-20 8:11 AM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by switch Foam rolling hurts so good -- I highly recommend! It was, honestly, pretty brutal at first, but after you get things worked out and it becomes about maintenance, I actually think it feels really good. The trails are better on my joints. The give you get from running on trails is much better than running on asphalt or pavement. And the unevenness of the trails really requires you to pay more attention to foot placement. I pay attention more and feel like things just go better on the trails....I also manage to trip myself up on flat sidewalks or whatever way more often than I do on the trails. I do, however, take it slow (sometimes even walking) on the downhills -- downhills are what hurts my knee the most. Nice work on the swim!! Taking 10 seconds off your 100 time is huge! Have you ever plateaued somewhere and then practically overnight the time comes down? Or is it a gradual thing for you? I was stuck for a relatively long time at one pace, and just recently I seem to have dropped about 10 seconds off paces I can hold. Very rewarding when that happens -- good to see you're making lemonade out of lemons :) Pink--nice job on the runs and your strength work. Garmin flutters are always fun;) Nicole-plant with the chiro and ART sounds really good, and you're being good about the foam rolling and stretching too. Confession: I have never foam rolled :/Do you find that the softness of the trail is better for your running than pavement? Does the uneveness or unpredictability of the trail ever bother your knee? Matt--Good news on that ankle, bro. I love the 88% analysis, btw. Hilarious. Glad it didn't slow you down :) ___________ I went for a run today. Nice and easy for 5.5 on the country roads by my home. It went pretty well after the initial warm-up, but I think the uneveness in the gravel perturbs my proprioceptors, peroneals and whatever this thing is in my lower leg. It feels OK right now, but I could definitely feel it at moments on my run. So weird. It's like overnight I developed weak ankles and lower leg instability and fatigue. WTH? I'm staying on top of ibuprofen and have some compression going. Bleh. On a more positive note, I am in love with swimming right now, and I am so grateful to have something feel like it's clicking. I have to put in another plug for Sheila Taormina's book Swim Speed Secrets. The pictures are just awesome. I have dropped 10seconds off my hundred in that time and am already faster than I was after an 8 week 18-20K/week focus at the end of last spring. While I have been trying to not get bummed about my leg and lack of running, the swimming focus is a boon that I hope I will be able to maintain once I pick the running back up. This has, once again, reminded me to "make lemonade out of lemons" (I can hear my grandmother saying it) and turn a negative into a positive. I have both phenomena happen in swimming, I guess. I'm not sure how much of the last three weeks' gains are from just being back in the water consistently or from new technique gains. After I have been swimming consistently, I have not experienced multi-second drops, though that would be freaking AWESOME! Can you correlate those bigger time drops with a specific change in technique, or is it more of pushing through some kind of mental barrier? This past week I have been really focusing on finishing the last third of my stroke firmly and that has seemed to help quite a bit. It also give me two kinds of feedback in the water, 1) I can feel a water vortex roll of my feet from the stroke finish and 2) the water sounds different when I'm moving at that speed. This will, I think, prove to be helpful in races as I often have no clue how I'm doing out there. Would be cool to "hear it". And you've inspired me--I am going to foam roll today :) |
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2013-10-20 8:13 AM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by switch Side lying leg lifts are my favorite abductor exercise.And thank you!!!! I had the race of my life!!! You know when you dig really deep and catch a glimpse of how much is still left, untapped? Originally posted by Asalzwed I had a track workout las night. Mile repeats at a "Nice relaxed 12K pace" where we worked with our group, surging on the straightaways. The back person would run to the front of the line. Just like elementary school. Our coach said, as a team, we were weak in the area of not closing the gap in XC competition and this drill would help with that. So, speaking of working on weaknesses :) But I only did 3 repeats and called it a night in hopes that I will have something left for our race Saturday. Today I did some easy running and then core and abductor strength. Slacker ;) what do you do for abductor exercises? I can't think of the last time I specifically worked them. I guess some fire hydrants, which do hurt like a mofo, but I haven't done anything else. Suggestions? Good luck tomorrow Salty! Um, this is FACHING AWESOME! You can't just stop there--I'm dying--give us all the juicy details woman! I mean, no pressure dearest, I'm sure you have a life outside of BT, but when you get around to it, I'd love to hear more about your race :) |
2013-10-20 3:07 PM in reply to: switch |
Veteran 1677 Houston, Texas | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch I have both phenomena happen in swimming, I guess. I'm not sure how much of the last three weeks' gains are from just being back in the water consistently or from new technique gains. After I have been swimming consistently, I have not experienced multi-second drops, though that would be freaking AWESOME! Can you correlate those bigger time drops with a specific change in technique, or is it more of pushing through some kind of mental barrier? This past week I have been really focusing on finishing the last third of my stroke firmly and that has seemed to help quite a bit. It also give me two kinds of feedback in the water, 1) I can feel a water vortex roll of my feet from the stroke finish and 2) the water sounds different when I'm moving at that speed. This will, I think, prove to be helpful in races as I often have no clue how I'm doing out there. Would be cool to "hear it". And you've inspired me--I am going to foam roll today I started swimming with my Master's group in Sept. 2012 as a solid 2:00/100m swimmer. A few weeks in, I "magically" dropped down to 1:50/100m. Really not sure what happened there, but I suspect it was swimming regularly, with faster swimmers, with actual coaches giving helpful pointers. Over a few months, I gradually saw my times get closer to 1:45/100m. I did my first HIM and was pleased with a just barely under 34min split and decided I wanted to put in the effort to cut off a couple minutes by next year. Recently, my "cruise forever" pace has been sitting at 1:40/100m, but I hadn't really been pushed to go much harder. A friend who swims in the lane above me convinced me to come into her lane (I was way faster than everyone in my lane, but a decent amount slower than the people in the lane above me). I jumped in and struggled for a while....coaches were asking me to do sets on 1:35/100m and I was sometimes making them, sometimes not. They started asking me to do some at 1:30/100m and I was failing miserably every time. Suddenly, this past week, I made all my 1:30/100m sets with time to spare. It was like it just clicked. Couple things -- 1. I'm now swimming with people who are WAY faster than me (so I try to keep up as best I can....and really try to not get in their way!), and 2. One of the coaches has been forcing speed work on us (think lots of 50's building to fast and lots of 50's on short intervals). With all of that, I dropped time off basically overnight....it's not that it happened overnight, but all the work I'd put in finally came together at the same time. Swimming with a Master's group is the best thing I've done for my swimming....kind of like using TrainerRoad and eventually buying a power meter and training with power is the best thing I've done for my cycling. Hopefully running consistently will be the best thing I do for my running And on that note, it's time to take the dogs for a run! |
2013-10-20 4:55 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Completed my long run for 14.4 miles. I noticed that I've actually been running near the pace target for my marathon goal (3:15) during all my foundation runs and long runs. I average about 7:30/mile for my easy runs, and the pace for a 3:15 is 7:26. Maybe I'm capable of more. I guess I'll evaluate that closer to time. |
2013-10-20 5:43 PM in reply to: ligersandtions |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by ligersandtions Originally posted by switch I have both phenomena happen in swimming, I guess. I'm not sure how much of the last three weeks' gains are from just being back in the water consistently or from new technique gains. After I have been swimming consistently, I have not experienced multi-second drops, though that would be freaking AWESOME! Can you correlate those bigger time drops with a specific change in technique, or is it more of pushing through some kind of mental barrier? I started swimming with my Master's group in Sept. 2012 as a solid 2:00/100m swimmer. A few weeks in, I "magically" dropped down to 1:50/100m. Really not sure what happened there, but I suspect it was swimming regularly, with faster swimmers, with actual coaches giving helpful pointers. Over a few months, I gradually saw my times get closer to 1:45/100m. I did my first HIM and was pleased with a just barely under 34min split and decided I wanted to put in the effort to cut off a couple minutes by next year. Recently, my "cruise forever" pace has been sitting at 1:40/100m, but I hadn't really been pushed to go much harder. A friend who swims in the lane above me convinced me to come into her lane (I was way faster than everyone in my lane, but a decent amount slower than the people in the lane above me). I jumped in and struggled for a while....coaches were asking me to do sets on 1:35/100m and I was sometimes making them, sometimes not. They started asking me to do some at 1:30/100m and I was failing miserably every time. Suddenly, this past week, I made all my 1:30/100m sets with time to spare. It was like it just clicked. Couple things -- 1. I'm now swimming with people who are WAY faster than me (so I try to keep up as best I can....and really try to not get in their way!), and 2. One of the coaches has been forcing speed work on us (think lots of 50's building to fast and lots of 50's on short intervals). With all of that, I dropped time off basically overnight....it's not that it happened overnight, but all the work I'd put in finally came together at the same time. Swimming with a Master's group is the best thing I've done for my swimming....kind of like using TrainerRoad and eventually buying a power meter and training with power is the best thing I've done for my cycling. Hopefully running consistently will be the best thing I do for my running And on that note, it's time to take the dogs for a run! This past week I have been really focusing on finishing the last third of my stroke firmly and that has seemed to help quite a bit. It also give me two kinds of feedback in the water, 1) I can feel a water vortex roll of my feet from the stroke finish and 2) the water sounds different when I'm moving at that speed. This will, I think, prove to be helpful in races as I often have no clue how I'm doing out there. Would be cool to "hear it". And you've inspired me--I am going to foam roll today Those are some pretty awesome swimming drops. I hope I can follow in those footsteps (strokes?) this year. I'm trying ot configure my schedule to start up with masters after the new year. Good job with the running, Nicole. Your accident and follow-up sounds like it would be incredibly frustrating. Hopefully, you have that behind you now and will be able to run pain free at see those gains. Your dogs must be happy |
2013-10-20 5:45 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner Hooo-haaa! That is pretty speedy there, sir. NIce job. Easy runs at 7:30--nice!Completed my long run for 14.4 miles. I noticed that I've actually been running near the pace target for my marathon goal (3:15) during all my foundation runs and long runs. I average about 7:30/mile for my easy runs, and the pace for a 3:15 is 7:26. Maybe I'm capable of more. I guess I'll evaluate that closer to time. When is your marathon again? ------------ I ran again today gang and I was completely good to go. No pain. Nada. Happy learned how to put.... sweeeeeeet.
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2013-10-20 6:04 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 1222 Tallahassee, Florida | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Planks and crunches and other stretches for me today. I may get some more stretches in later tonight. Whoa, Matt, you are fast. Sounds like you are capable of more if your easy runs are that fast. Edited by Pink Socks 2013-10-20 6:06 PM |
2013-10-20 9:45 PM in reply to: switch |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner Hooo-haaa! That is pretty speedy there, sir. NIce job. Easy runs at 7:30--nice!Completed my long run for 14.4 miles. I noticed that I've actually been running near the pace target for my marathon goal (3:15) during all my foundation runs and long runs. I average about 7:30/mile for my easy runs, and the pace for a 3:15 is 7:26. Maybe I'm capable of more. I guess I'll evaluate that closer to time. When is your marathon again? Yeah here's a link to my run from today: http://www.strava.com/activities/90340664 So far I'm holding back until I have VDOT that shows I should be running faster than that. I've been invited to run a 5k this coming weekend, so I may give it a go. The marathon I'm targeting is January 11. |
2013-10-20 10:36 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Regular 1362 Jenison, MI | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... |
2013-10-21 12:16 PM in reply to: MSU_Brad |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... |
2013-10-21 12:16 PM in reply to: Pink Socks |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Pink Socks Planks and crunches and other stretches for me today. I may get some more stretches in later tonight. Whoa, Matt, you are fast. Sounds like you are capable of more if your easy runs are that fast. So did you get those stretches in??? |
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2013-10-21 12:26 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge I just finished the last of three races in 8 days. Here is the RACE REPORT Now, this week is going to be all about miles and strength. I am going to drop one of my quality session is favor of volume. I have two weeks before my next race so this will be a big mile week then next week will be lower volume with more intensity. Today I did core work and abductor work and I am getting a massage tonight (YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS) |
2013-10-21 12:52 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Today's a recovery day, so I'm going to work on another weakness of mine, flip turning. I will announce it here for accountability: I will not swim a lap today without flip turning! |
2013-10-21 12:54 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner Today's a recovery day, so I'm going to work on another weakness of mine, flip turning. I will announce it here for accountability: I will not swim a lap today without flip turning! Haha. Don't do it or else! Wait, how are we going to verify this? |
2013-10-21 3:12 PM in reply to: switch |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by msteiner Hooo-haaa! That is pretty speedy there, sir. NIce job. Easy runs at 7:30--nice!Completed my long run for 14.4 miles. I noticed that I've actually been running near the pace target for my marathon goal (3:15) during all my foundation runs and long runs. I average about 7:30/mile for my easy runs, and the pace for a 3:15 is 7:26. Maybe I'm capable of more. I guess I'll evaluate that closer to time. When is your marathon again? ------------ I ran again today gang and I was completely good to go. No pain. Nada. Happy learned how to put.... sweeeeeeet.
I totally missed this before. Completely pain free?!?!?!?! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
2013-10-21 3:32 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... Must. Be. Appropriate... OK. This stick? For 31.99 you could have one too :) |
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2013-10-21 3:38 PM in reply to: switch |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... Must. Be. Appropriate... OK. This stick? For 31.99 you could have one too You? Appropriate? 31.99 for which stick?
All joking aside ... I actually really want to build my own (DIY STICK) with some really cool BMX style bike grips and stuff. So I have been holding off on purchasing one. Of course, I am busy, too and it hasn't happened. Although, at one of my races I won a giftcard to the hardware store. I should use it for the PVC. |
2013-10-21 3:47 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 2263 Ridgeland, Mississippi | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge "The Stick", the leading source of the question "umm......what is that?", especially when I leave it lying on a couch or bed. Edited by msteiner 2013-10-21 3:48 PM |
2013-10-21 3:53 PM in reply to: msteiner |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by msteiner "The Stick", the leading source of the question "umm......what is that?", especially when I leave it lying on a couch or bed. You mean when you "accidentally" leave it on the couch or the bed;) |
2013-10-21 3:54 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed This is the most awesomely butch thing you have ever posted on BT. Pure win!Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... Must. Be. Appropriate... OK. This stick? For 31.99 you could have one too :) You? Appropriate? 31.99 for which stick? :)
All joking aside ... I actually really want to build my own (DIY STICK) with some really cool BMX style bike grips and stuff. So I have been holding off on purchasing one. Of course, I am busy, too and it hasn't happened. Although, at one of my races I won a giftcard to the hardware store. I should use it for the PVC. |
2013-10-21 4:02 PM in reply to: switch |
Seattle | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed This is the most awesomely butch thing you have ever posted on BT. Pure win!Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... Must. Be. Appropriate... OK. This stick? For 31.99 you could have one too You? Appropriate? 31.99 for which stick?
All joking aside ... I actually really want to build my own (DIY STICK) with some really cool BMX style bike grips and stuff. So I have been holding off on purchasing one. Of course, I am busy, too and it hasn't happened. Although, at one of my races I won a giftcard to the hardware store. I should use it for the PVC. lol! Well, you know me! Now I have to make this thing. You know, to prove myself! Then I am going to leave it all over the house, especially when we have company. |
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2013-10-21 4:11 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Regular 5477 LHOTP | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed Pics woman! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed This is the most awesomely butch thing you have ever posted on BT. Pure win!Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... Must. Be. Appropriate... OK. This stick? For 31.99 you could have one too You? Appropriate? 31.99 for which stick?
All joking aside ... I actually really want to build my own (DIY STICK) with some really cool BMX style bike grips and stuff. So I have been holding off on purchasing one. Of course, I am busy, too and it hasn't happened. Although, at one of my races I won a giftcard to the hardware store. I should use it for the PVC. lol! Well, you know me! Now I have to make this thing. You know, to prove myself! Then I am going to leave it all over the house, especially when we have company. |
2013-10-21 5:14 PM in reply to: Asalzwed |
Expert 4929 Middle River, Maryland | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by Asalzwed I just finished the last of three races in 8 days. Here is the RACE REPORT Now, this week is going to be all about miles and strength. I am going to drop one of my quality session is favor of volume. I have two weeks before my next race so this will be a big mile week then next week will be lower volume with more intensity. Today I did core work and abductor work and I am getting a massage tonight (YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS) OMG that race report was just awesome. Well, the race, too...but the RR was even better!!! |
2013-10-21 5:18 PM in reply to: jmhpsu93 |
Expert 4929 Middle River, Maryland | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Got my flexibility work in this morning during Bikram...but I totally mailed it in because I had NUTHIN'. Base run at lunchtime was much more fruitful. @switch: the "locked knee" term in BY refers to your standing leg in all of the straight-leg standing poses (half moon, standing bow, tree, etc.)...I have a habit of letting my knee drift forward a little. It's kind of counter-intuitive because I've always been told not to lock your knee, but that mainly was for doing squats and other gym work. |
2013-10-21 5:20 PM in reply to: switch |
Expert 4929 Middle River, Maryland | Subject: RE: Work your Weakness aka "Hey, Mike, STFU!" Challenge Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed This is the most awesomely butch thing you have ever posted on BT. Pure win!Originally posted by switch Originally posted by Asalzwed Originally posted by MSU_Brad I'm still getting as much as I can in with the foam rolling. Not enough, not as much as I should be. Still running every day (today was #84). Sitting down to use the Stick now... I love the stick! I don't own one but my friend does and every time I go to her house I use it the whole time. She is starting to think I like the stick better than her... Must. Be. Appropriate... OK. This stick? For 31.99 you could have one too You? Appropriate? 31.99 for which stick?
All joking aside ... I actually really want to build my own (DIY STICK) with some really cool BMX style bike grips and stuff. So I have been holding off on purchasing one. Of course, I am busy, too and it hasn't happened. Although, at one of my races I won a giftcard to the hardware store. I should use it for the PVC. Not that it's the first time, but we're completely off the rails now. |
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