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Just got boring old white 'n orange adidas...But they make my feet happy, so I go with 'em.

The weather is so beautiful today, I decided to ride my bike to work.  First day of outside riding this year...always, always, always trepidation about flats.  Almost backed out because of it, but told myself to HTFU.  So I get to work--oh, we were just trying to call you to tell you it's slow and don't come in!  I'm kinda glad I didn't get the call, because I likely would've jammed on the ride, and just gotten on the trainer... In the end, I rode the long way home.  Three bridges later, drop my bike off at the LBS to finally get narrower handlebars installed.  And maybe some new red bar tape....

Looks like it worked out perfectly :D. ( says me as I practice clip in... clip out)

Well, I had to remind myself to remember to do so!  I was actually thinking about you and Jo as I was out there--don't forget to clip out at stops, don't forget to clip out, don't forget to clip out...Almost bit it once, but made out ok!



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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 5:05 PM Thanks for all the shoe info, everyone. Yes, I'll try these 8 1/2 Brooks... and if they don't work, I'll chalk it up to not the brand for my foot. I just hate "wasting" shopping time and money on shoes that don't make my feet happy  Undecided

If I were you, I would shop at a store that has a good return policy. Most running stores understand how difficult it can be to find the right kind of shoe for your foot, therefore are pretty liberal with their returns. 

This store does (30 days "used"). I just thought I was doing something wrong with the other shoes and kept them too long. Won't make that mistake this time.

Running shoes are a funny thing. I found that there are a number of things that matter about them, but "feel" is the #1.  And once you find ones that work, well, then you have it made. Until the manufacturer changes them and your search starts again. And I can tell they are too old by the way my knee feels. The inside part of my knee starts to complain and I can almost guarantee there are about 400 miles on them. I now track them on here, because it vexed me so much.

Good Luck finding ones that work for you, it is a highly personal thing! 

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Just got boring old white 'n orange adidas...But they make my feet happy, so I go with 'em.

The weather is so beautiful today, I decided to ride my bike to work.  First day of outside riding this year...always, always, always trepidation about flats.  Almost backed out because of it, but told myself to HTFU.  So I get to work--oh, we were just trying to call you to tell you it's slow and don't come in!  I'm kinda glad I didn't get the call, because I likely would've jammed on the ride, and just gotten on the trainer... In the end, I rode the long way home.  Three bridges later, drop my bike off at the LBS to finally get narrower handlebars installed.  And maybe some new red bar tape....

Looks like it worked out perfectly :D. ( says me as I practice clip in... clip out)

Well, I had to remind myself to remember to do so!  I was actually thinking about you and Jo as I was out there--don't forget to clip out at stops, don't forget to clip out, don't forget to clip out...Almost bit it once, but made out ok!

It's a relief to be out of the bike shoes until I'm comfortable with the whole riding thing.  Then I'll get back in.  Yikes!

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Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

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well, never mind... you just answered. Lol


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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)
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Asalzwed - 2013-04-01 2:08 PM
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Trying to get caught up....

Jayne - Love the new Avie...

TJ - Awesome Job on the 1/2.  Totally understand the emotional finish.  I think after all the training, it's impossible not to get emotional when you cross the line.  Thanks for the update on the tracker, going to be using this for my next race.

Jo - Congrats on overcoming the fear...you will soon be a cycling beast!

Salty - Happy Belated - hope you had a great B-day.  Those are wicked awesome (that's better than just awesome) shoes!

Stacy - For me, the best plan was run, run and run some more.  I did not follow a specific plan, I just followed the adage, "run often, mostly easy, sometimes hard."  It really worked for me.  I ran 5-6 days per week and stuck to the 10% rule for adding mileage each week.  

Erin - love the pic of your Husband and Daughter reading the magazine.  How is the clip in, clip out going..? 

Jonathon TX - please tell me your cold went away.

Ariel - Awesome job...very impressive to negative split those 4 miles after a 6 mile "warm up"

And with that - I think I'm caught up....

P.S.  What the hell is YMMV?  I haven't been able to figure that one out.

Your Mileage May vary.

I see you had a date this weekend that went well. Good to see.

Wow - you get around huh?    

I admit, I read more then I post. 

^^^yes, also guilty.

Shoe shopping question...

I've bought two pairs of Brooks from a run-specific shoe store. Last year, the sales assistant convinced me to buy a 1/2 size larger than I normally wear because she said there's issue of feet swelling on longer runs. They are the pair I least wear on runs because I get blisters at 4-5 miles. I've changed the socks I wear with them and still have issues of rubbing. I'm going to try bodyglide or some such help.

I have narrow feet and really narrow heels. Going to a bigger shoe means I get a lot more slipping around. When buying my trail shoes this weekend, the sales guy kept pushing me on the 1/2 size larger. I told him about my other shoes and he seemed skeptical, and I felt silly because he's the "shoe expert", right? But I stuck to my guns and bought the 8 1/2 instead of 9 (I tried both sizes on in 3 different shoes). I figured he can tell me what I "should" do all day, but he's not running with my feet.

Right call? How much should I really listen to their advice? I'm such a newbie that I felt dumb throwing his advice/knowledge in his face. 

That's exactly right. I think you just need to run in them and see how they work out. Not to discredit "shoe experts," it's just that everyone is different and, while they can give you general advice, you are the one who has to run in them.

I think you made the right call.

I think some of those shoe experts are 19 year old kids regurgitating the garbage they were taught in their 30 minute training class.  

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Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

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Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

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jobaxas - 2013-04-01 5:20 PM

ALARM SET.

11am today Melbourne IM 2014 opens - last year took 4mins to sell out.  I have given it much thought.  I figure it can't throw up those hideous conditions two years running, I'll take a chance.  I've got lots of friends doing it again or for the first time.

So my schedule if I get in looks something like this:

September 15 - SUNSHINE COAST 70.3

January 18 - CHALLENGE WANAKA 70.3

March 23 - IM MELBOURNE 140.6

The timing sits perfectly.  However Im more stressed about getting in than I am about racing!

 

Good luck Jo. That does look like a great schedule.


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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 6:01 PM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/
Suck it up. I love my cycling shoes and hate wearing flats. However, I still do sometimes. Just the other day I did a super short ride in flip flops. It turned out okay, but I don't recommend it.
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Muskrat37 - 2013-04-01 6:47 PM
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-01 4:05 PM
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Muskrat37 - 2013-04-01 3:07 PM

Trying to get caught up....

Jayne - Love the new Avie...

TJ - Awesome Job on the 1/2.  Totally understand the emotional finish.  I think after all the training, it's impossible not to get emotional when you cross the line.  Thanks for the update on the tracker, going to be using this for my next race.

Jo - Congrats on overcoming the fear...you will soon be a cycling beast!

Salty - Happy Belated - hope you had a great B-day.  Those are wicked awesome (that's better than just awesome) shoes!

Stacy - For me, the best plan was run, run and run some more.  I did not follow a specific plan, I just followed the adage, "run often, mostly easy, sometimes hard."  It really worked for me.  I ran 5-6 days per week and stuck to the 10% rule for adding mileage each week.  

Erin - love the pic of your Husband and Daughter reading the magazine.  How is the clip in, clip out going..? 

Jonathon TX - please tell me your cold went away.

Ariel - Awesome job...very impressive to negative split those 4 miles after a 6 mile "warm up"

And with that - I think I'm caught up....

P.S.  What the hell is YMMV?  I haven't been able to figure that one out.

Your Mileage May vary.

I see you had a date this weekend that went well. Good to see.

Wow - you get around huh?    

I admit, I read more then I post. 

^^^yes, also guilty.

Shoe shopping question...

I've bought two pairs of Brooks from a run-specific shoe store. Last year, the sales assistant convinced me to buy a 1/2 size larger than I normally wear because she said there's issue of feet swelling on longer runs. They are the pair I least wear on runs because I get blisters at 4-5 miles. I've changed the socks I wear with them and still have issues of rubbing. I'm going to try bodyglide or some such help.

I have narrow feet and really narrow heels. Going to a bigger shoe means I get a lot more slipping around. When buying my trail shoes this weekend, the sales guy kept pushing me on the 1/2 size larger. I told him about my other shoes and he seemed skeptical, and I felt silly because he's the "shoe expert", right? But I stuck to my guns and bought the 8 1/2 instead of 9 (I tried both sizes on in 3 different shoes). I figured he can tell me what I "should" do all day, but he's not running with my feet.

Right call? How much should I really listen to their advice? I'm such a newbie that I felt dumb throwing his advice/knowledge in his face. 

That's exactly right. I think you just need to run in them and see how they work out. Not to discredit "shoe experts," it's just that everyone is different and, while they can give you general advice, you are the one who has to run in them.

I think you made the right call.

I think some of those shoe experts are 19 year old kids regurgitating the garbage they were taught in their 30 minute training class.  

Thank you, Chad. You said what I wanted to.
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Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

And here I am happy if someone nods at me on my run....or even a hello - imagine getting picked up!  Awesome.

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Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

And here I am happy if someone nods at me on my run....or even a hello - imagine getting picked up!  Awesome.

hehehehe...ditto. I'll blame it on my dull-colored shoes. Wink

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Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

And here I am happy if someone nods at me on my run....or even a hello - imagine getting picked up!  Awesome.

hehehehe...ditto. I'll blame it on my dull-colored shoes. Wink

On occasion I bump into my friend Tash who is sooooo hot...we get a lot of attention then...cyclists have been known to topple over etc.  She says oh Jo you are so cute look at them all staring...yeah right.



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Just got boring old white 'n orange adidas...But they make my feet happy, so I go with 'em.

The weather is so beautiful today, I decided to ride my bike to work.  First day of outside riding this year...always, always, always trepidation about flats.  Almost backed out because of it, but told myself to HTFU.  So I get to work--oh, we were just trying to call you to tell you it's slow and don't come in!  I'm kinda glad I didn't get the call, because I likely would've jammed on the ride, and just gotten on the trainer... In the end, I rode the long way home.  Three bridges later, drop my bike off at the LBS to finally get narrower handlebars installed.  And maybe some new red bar tape....

Orange is my favorite color. (Well, ok, it's more of a salmon-orange if we are being specific)

In fact, don't tell anyone, but I chose my running club because their colors were blue and orange. I had NO idea that they were the best running club in the NW (maybe the US if you look at results...

FUNNY.  My undergrad and grad schools were both orange colored schools (BGSU and Syracuse).  I regard orange with a certain fondness.

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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)

Maybe I'm an oddball (maybe?) but I got the whole clip in/clip out thing pretty quick.  Or at least I didn't bite it right away.  Clipping out wasn't the hard part, it was figuring out clipping in.

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Shoe shopping question...

I've bought two pairs of Brooks from a run-specific shoe store. Last year, the sales assistant convinced me to buy a 1/2 size larger than I normally wear because she said there's issue of feet swelling on longer runs. They are the pair I least wear on runs because I get blisters at 4-5 miles. I've changed the socks I wear with them and still have issues of rubbing. I'm going to try bodyglide or some such help.

I have narrow feet and really narrow heels. Going to a bigger shoe means I get a lot more slipping around. When buying my trail shoes this weekend, the sales guy kept pushing me on the 1/2 size larger. I told him about my other shoes and he seemed skeptical, and I felt silly because he's the "shoe expert", right? But I stuck to my guns and bought the 8 1/2 instead of 9 (I tried both sizes on in 3 different shoes). I figured he can tell me what I "should" do all day, but he's not running with my feet.

Right call? How much should I really listen to their advice? I'm such a newbie that I felt dumb throwing his advice/knowledge in his face. 

I buy a full size bigger than my street shoes in my Brooks.  I also have a narrow heel, but I still need the extra toe room when I'm training for marathons.  For me, it was a matter of learning how to lace them correctly to not get heel slippage but still have enough room in the toe.  This is how I do it.



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Skrat - tell the pod about your run....

LOL...I think we've all read it Tongue out 

I just want to know if he left out any details.

And here I am happy if someone nods at me on my run....or even a hello - imagine getting picked up!  Awesome.

hehehehe...ditto. I'll blame it on my dull-colored shoes. Wink

On occasion I bump into my friend Tash who is sooooo hot...we get a lot of attention then...cyclists have been known to topple over etc.  She says oh Jo you are so cute look at them all staring...yeah right.

ha! ... every woman needs a " Tash" in life. And they may topple for her, but which of you has the better nursing skills? They might find that more desirable after falling over
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)

Maybe I'm an oddball (maybe?) but I got the whole clip in/clip out thing pretty quick.  Or at least I didn't bite it right away.  Clipping out wasn't the hard part, it was figuring out clipping in.

Agreed clipping out is fine, it's remembering the other foot is clipped in and not trying to put that foot down!
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4agoodlife - 2013-04-02 11:01 AM Jo- are you using clips with Andrew or keeping regular pedals for awhile? I'm debating on putting my flat pedals back on for another few rides off trainer or telling myself to just suck it up and go for it. eeek :/

To conquer the phobia I went back to flat pedals.  no cages or anything to make me feel trapped.  Funnily on stopping my right foot stayed firmly on the pedal and left foot down, so converting back to clips shouldn't bother me too much!  I hope!  If not, I'll stay with the pedals, why not - a bit of old school pedal power!

I could do " modified" cages... No strap around foot but cage over top of toe. Helped with slippage but didn't feel trapped. (I say as I clip in.... clip out)

Maybe I'm an oddball (maybe?) but I got the whole clip in/clip out thing pretty quick.  Or at least I didn't bite it right away.  Clipping out wasn't the hard part, it was figuring out clipping in.

pffft...Did you really say maybe? I never ate it super hard, though I saw a few. An old bf got into mtn biking and I thought I'd give it a shot. I was fine on wider trails, but single track gave me fits and I fell over plenty. I ended up riding right clipped out most of the time which made for its own problems. We got Look clips instead of SPD for my roadie, sooo... fingers crossed anxiety eases with some trainer work.
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Shoe shopping question...

I've bought two pairs of Brooks from a run-specific shoe store. Last year, the sales assistant convinced me to buy a 1/2 size larger than I normally wear because she said there's issue of feet swelling on longer runs. They are the pair I least wear on runs because I get blisters at 4-5 miles. I've changed the socks I wear with them and still have issues of rubbing. I'm going to try bodyglide or some such help.

I have narrow feet and really narrow heels. Going to a bigger shoe means I get a lot more slipping around. When buying my trail shoes this weekend, the sales guy kept pushing me on the 1/2 size larger. I told him about my other shoes and he seemed skeptical, and I felt silly because he's the "shoe expert", right? But I stuck to my guns and bought the 8 1/2 instead of 9 (I tried both sizes on in 3 different shoes). I figured he can tell me what I "should" do all day, but he's not running with my feet.

Right call? How much should I really listen to their advice? I'm such a newbie that I felt dumb throwing his advice/knowledge in his face. 

I buy a full size bigger than my street shoes in my Brooks.  I also have a narrow heel, but I still need the extra toe room when I'm training for marathons.  For me, it was a matter of learning how to lace them correctly to not get heel slippage but still have enough room in the toe.  This is how I do it.

yep... this shop taught me the runner's loop and definitely helps with the heel. I've done it with my Nikes now too. To my foot, it feels like the arch support isn't in the right place compared to my heel. I tap my heel back into shoe before lacing too. I don't know... seems a cruel trick that my feet are the only "skinny" things on my body. Lol
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