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So is that aquajogging on frozen water?

Snerk! Hey Spiglet! Yep, she's getting scared because my aquajogging pace is creeping up on her swim pace

It's all right, her run pace is creeping up on my bike pace.

Great job! Congrats. 

Let's talk running shoes.  Specifically, do you train and race in the same shoes?  I currently train and race in Asics Gel Cumulus.  I've been using them since they were version 8, currently at 14.  I've also experimented with Kinvaras but never fell in love with them (although they feel great to run in).

I tried on a pair of Zoot Ultra TT 5.0 at IMMT last year and they felt fantastic and was thinking of trying them for races (haven't bought any yet).  I'm wondering though if I were to try them and like them, would I be better off just using them all the time?  On sale, the cost difference isn't all that much but I would have to rely on buying them online rather than locally.

So, what do you guys and gals do?

I train in Mizuno Wave Riders as well as Saucony ProGrid Rides.  The only time I would race in either shoe is for a marathon.

I'll race (HM and shorter) in KSwiss or Zoot shoes.  Can't remember which models, but they are not minimal shoes or racing flats...still have some cushion, but a tad bit lighter.  Maybe around 9.5-10 ounces compared to 11.5-12 ounces for the training shoes.

I love running in my training shoes...the cushion helps.  I tried doing a 30k in my KSwiss shoes and my feet were not happy the last 3 miles.  I think I need to lose about 20-25 pounds before starting to train/race in racing type shoes. 

 I have racing flats that I only race in (other than maybe a race prep or two where I wear them in marathon training)

I have a very diverse rotation going. All of my shoes are minimal in nature but vary widely. I've got some Nike Frees (a couple versions) some Brooks PureConnects, NB Minimus, Nike XC flats, Brooks Green Silence and 2 pair of trail shoes (One North Face and one Adidas.) My racing flats are Brooks T7s. 

I never wear one pair twice in a row. I just feel like shoe companies are constantly changing their shoes so I hate to rely on any one specific make and model.

To answer your question, I think you can do whatever you would like. I think it's good to have at least 2 pair just in case one gets really wet or anything. Shoes are pretty personal and what I do (/my apparent shoe obsession) may not make a lot of sense for everyone.

Thank you!! 

I was an Asics girl for many years but switched to Zoot last year and love them. I wear the Zoot Energy which works out great as a tri race shoe (no messing with laces) but it's also a great everyday running shoe. My husband has the Ultras for racing/track workouts but he prefers the Energy because the Ultra does not have enough cushioning, sometimes his achilles hurts if he uses them too much. He also runs on trails a lot and the thorns go right into those soles.

I just picked up a pair of Nike Free but haven't been able to run in them yet until I get the stitches out...will let you know what I think. They are super comfy to walk around in!

If you are interested, contact Bryan Dunn to see if he has a discount code.

I actually like the idea of running in different shoes every day!  But I don't think I'm quite ready for that yet.    I also have quite a few pairs to run in in case of rain etc., they just all happen to be the same ones.

Thanks for all the thoughts so far, keep 'em coming.

However, I just ordered a paid of Nike Lunarglides because they were way on sale, have gotten good reviews for larger runners pike me who keep up decent mileage, and I got them with the "shield" reflectivity. I am paranoid about being run over.

I race and train in the same shoes simply because I don't race often, and when I do, I don't want to "discover" a new blister on race day.

- Brian

I'm sort of the same way.  Pure running races are definitely in flats.  I'm not really obsessed with shows -- more like I don't really care and buy whatever reasonably light neutral shoe is on sale.  Right now I'm rotating between I think 3 or 4 pairs.  For the run of a HIM or IM I usually wear relatively new Kinvaras -- they are pretty lightweight, but a bit more cushion than true racing flats.  In a sprint or Oly I'm more likely to use the flats, but I've varied that sometimes, for no good reason.

Oh and that 1-2-3 is pretty awesome.  Nice job!

Train and race in the same shoes.  Switched to Zoots last year - simply cause I got them on sale.  I use the same shoe day in and day out until it wears out, then move on to the next one.  I would like to get a slightly lighter pair of shoes to race shorter distances.

I generally train and race in the same shoe, but I save one pair specifically for races. That way I'll know they're in good condition and they have the speed laces on them. I like knowing exactly what to expect in the feel. I'm very sensitive to a lot of things, so want predictability. Even though I can adapt, it takes a little time and I don't want that in a race.

I will have a couple other types for different situations. Most of my running will be in a rotation of a few pairs of one type. Treadmill will be on something thin & flat. Then also trail shoes. For the past few months I've really gotten into Altra shoes. Using the Instincts for the main running, the Superior for trails and weather conditions, and the Adam for treadmill. I still have some Kinvaras that I'll rotate in every once in awhile on an easy run. I do notice the 4mm difference in those after doing so much with 0.

I couldn't swim with a band without seeing that vid.

I haven't been swimming with my legs quite as tightly as with the band, but they're much more "quiet". And more of my body does seem to relax. So yes, there is translation.

I would agree with this.  I'm don't know if it is an automatic translation or not but if you employ the same technique that you learn with the band to regular swimming, it should carry over.

It's a tough one Neil.  I'd say it's a bit of HTFU but you might want to just back off your power targets a bit so you set yourself up for success for a few rides.  Once you get back into the groove (mentally and physically) then go back to the higher wattage and see how it goes.