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2012-05-14 11:02 PM
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Well, I was supposed to do a ride today in addition to my swim this AM.  Fought with myself all afternoon as my body was telling me I should rest, but I didn't want to wuss out on the ride.  So I made myself a deal.  I either had to go for a ride, or I had to finally have flat practice.  So I watched the video again a couple of times, and practiced about 5-6 times.  Had a bit of a struggle figuring out how to avoid having the tube pinched right at the valve stem, but figured it out (without wrecking any tubes...).  Last two times I did it I was in 5:00 and 4:30 (not including getting tire back on the bike).  I was pretty happy with that.  I figure front tire won't take more than a minute to get off/on, so I should be able to get that under 5min.  First flat I ever had was on the back tire, and I had a heck of a time getting it back on after the LBS changed the flat, so I will be spending my practice time with that little task...


2012-05-15 12:07 AM
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bcraht - 2012-05-14 11:02 PM Well, I was supposed to do a ride today in addition to my swim this AM.  Fought with myself all afternoon as my body was telling me I should rest, but I didn't want to wuss out on the ride.  So I made myself a deal.  I either had to go for a ride, or I had to finally have flat practice.  So I watched the video again a couple of times, and practiced about 5-6 times.  Had a bit of a struggle figuring out how to avoid having the tube pinched right at the valve stem, but figured it out (without wrecking any tubes...).  Last two times I did it I was in 5:00 and 4:30 (not including getting tire back on the bike).  I was pretty happy with that.  I figure front tire won't take more than a minute to get off/on, so I should be able to get that under 5min.  First flat I ever had was on the back tire, and I had a heck of a time getting it back on after the LBS changed the flat, so I will be spending my practice time with that little task...

Wasn't too hard was it!  I had the same issue with trying not to pinch the tube around the valve but worked it out eventually.

Can't say it's my favourite thing to do but I'm glad i know how to do it - kind of like CPR it's good to know but you hope to God you never have to use it!

2012-05-15 1:43 AM
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So the rest of the week for me has to include the following:

Swim +30min Bike (Wednesday squad then trainer)
3 hour bike, 20min run(Saturday or Sunday weather forecast dependent)
30min bike, 2 hour run (Saturday or Sunday weather forecast dependent)

That leaves a 90min ride....I am out Friday night when I would usually fit that in.  So my options are probably early morning Thursday or Friday - yikes, have to be on the bike by 4.15am in order to get off by 5.45am so I can shower and beautify before work.....

Oh well!  I think Thursday morning will be the go.

2012-05-15 7:10 AM
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jobaxas - 2012-05-15 2:43 AM

So the rest of the week for me has to include the following:

Swim +30min Bike (Wednesday squad then trainer)
3 hour bike, 20min run(Saturday or Sunday weather forecast dependent)
30min bike, 2 hour run (Saturday or Sunday weather forecast dependent)

That leaves a 90min ride....I am out Friday night when I would usually fit that in.  So my options are probably early morning Thursday or Friday - yikes, have to be on the bike by 4.15am in order to get off by 5.45am so I can shower and beautify before work.....

Oh well!  I think Thursday morning will be the go.

I know what you mean!  Sometimes the scheduling is harder than the training!

2012-05-15 8:15 AM
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rrrunner - 2012-05-14 12:30 PM

Well the race organizers still don't have the results posted so I will give you all a couple of hi-lites/lo-lites.  During the run I got the dreaded side cramp.  Was fine up the first hill (I practice those) then when it started to descend the cramp struck.  So pulled out a little WWCD, some WWSD and a lot of HTFU put my fingers in my side and kept moving.  My time did suffer some, but I'm happy I kept moving.  The bike was pretty un-eventful. Then on the swim (this is a reverse tri) when I jumped in I think I was still winded from the bike and run in to the pool so I couldn't get into my normal breathing pattern.  About 25 meters in (50 meter pool) I pulled out some WWYD and some HTFU, got a grip and forced myself into my normal breathing pattern.  Once I got that it got much better.  I liked the 50 meter pool because I could get into a nice groove (maybe even some smooth) before I had to stop.  I actually passed people in the swim!!!! (granted some of them were doing some very... um unconventional... strokes. 

Thank you Yanti and Salty for being in my head yesterday! My total time was just under an hour and a half and I am happy with my progress toward my A race in 4 weeks!

Oh and my runner-son gave me some ideas for getting rid of those stupid side cramps.

This blog from Coach Jenny of Runner's World addresses side stitches: article

2012-05-15 9:03 AM
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RE. HYDRATION: just a few thoughts ... on long runs, some folks stash water bottles at convenient locations. I can't deal with handhelds or a single big bottle, but I loved having two 10-oz bottles. Also experiment with where the belt is--early in running I could wear one around my waist, but in later times I had to have it around my hips. Try the belt on in the store--amphipods are great as you can adjust where the bottles go, but I hated the belt. (Etc.) Fuel belts bounced too much and I just couldn't get the bottles out of the way of my elbows. I finally settled on Nathan, and I loooooove it, but everyone will be different.

It's true you should focus on hydration the days BEFORE a long training session and especially race ... it's even truer that you should ALWAYS focus on hydration. If your body doesn't need it, it will pee it out. But it's very hard to tell if you're just a bit sub-optimally hydrated ... but it does affect your training and racing, perhaps without you knowing it. My policy is to try and stay as hydrated as I would be if I had a big session/event coming up.

Random thought re. LONG COURSE TRAINING: long bikes and runs tend to be scheduled back-to-back days on weekends for convenience. It's actually better to have long or hard sessions separated as much as possible. Another possibility is to do fewer long sessions, but load up more on volume during the week (if schedule allows). Key long bikes and long runs are always necessary ... but, for example, many (even competitive) marathoners do not ever have a LONG long run (longest 13-15 mi). But they have a higher overall volume and very carefully scheduled/crafted/executed short/medium/etc. runs.



2012-05-15 9:28 AM
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ArielLIlB - 2012-05-15 9:15 PM
rrrunner - 2012-05-14 12:30 PM

Well the race organizers still don't have the results posted so I will give you all a couple of hi-lites/lo-lites.  During the run I got the dreaded side cramp.  Was fine up the first hill (I practice those) then when it started to descend the cramp struck.  So pulled out a little WWCD, some WWSD and a lot of HTFU put my fingers in my side and kept moving.  My time did suffer some, but I'm happy I kept moving.  The bike was pretty un-eventful. Then on the swim (this is a reverse tri) when I jumped in I think I was still winded from the bike and run in to the pool so I couldn't get into my normal breathing pattern.  About 25 meters in (50 meter pool) I pulled out some WWYD and some HTFU, got a grip and forced myself into my normal breathing pattern.  Once I got that it got much better.  I liked the 50 meter pool because I could get into a nice groove (maybe even some smooth) before I had to stop.  I actually passed people in the swim!!!! (granted some of them were doing some very... um unconventional... strokes. 

Thank you Yanti and Salty for being in my head yesterday! My total time was just under an hour and a half and I am happy with my progress toward my A race in 4 weeks!

Oh and my runner-son gave me some ideas for getting rid of those stupid side cramps.

This blog from Coach Jenny of Runner's World addresses side stitches: article

Good article and pretty much what Joe Friel says as well.

Mostly you just have to try different stuff to see what works for you. I inhale deeply (very deeply, as deeply as I can visualising pulling air all the way down into my legs) and run stretched more upright for a few strides.

2012-05-15 9:36 AM
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cggale - 2012-05-15 3:38 AM

Sounds like everyone had a good weekend.  Congrats to the Manatee racers for meeting your goals!!  I am pleased to say I completed my goal of finishing my first OLY last Saturday.  I got through the swim which always causes anxiety.  The water was in the mid 60s, so a wetsuit was recommended.  I have to admit, I really like the wetsuit.  For slower swimmers like myself, it really does make you go a little faster.  I was really pleased with swimming 1640 yards in 35 minutes.   

The bike was a bit of a struggle, but I can't complain too much.  I thought 1 hour and 25 minutes wasn't too bad for 25.6 miles.  

I don't know my run split because it was never posted, but I figured it was at least 53-54 minutes.  My overall time was 3 hours flat and 56 seconds.

I finished BOP but I was really proud that I finished and it was a lot of fun.  I got to see my sister kick major a$$ and get second overall in the ladies!!!  She did it in 2 hours 20 minutes!!!!   Amazing! 

I just need some more T.I.T.S and I'll be ready to conquer my HIM in June.

Hope everyone is having a good day.  I did a small swim after work and plan on spin class this evening.  The girls are home from school.  Time to be a mom.  

CONGRATULATIONS OLYMPIC DISTANCE TRIATHLETE CLAIRE!!!

always difficult to face a new distance and you executed very well. And yes ... we could all use bigger T.I.T.S.

2012-05-15 10:36 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-14 2:58 PM
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I have a question about hydration on long runs.

Short version:   What do you use?

Long version with background information: 

I almost always don't bring anything with me. I go the extra effort to hydrate really well at a minimum the day before and morning of (and then of course afterwards). Most of my routes pass a water fountain or two (which I use

This actually ends up being pretty race-relevant as most of the events I run offer water every 3-5 miles or so. 

Generally it's not a problem unless I am going over 18 miles or so. If there is not a water fountain I just stop and buy a bottle and run with it. It's not much different than a hand-held in terms of feel and inconvenience, plus when I am done with it I can toss it rather than carrying an empty bottle around with me.

*If I am on a trail and there isn't water access I would just run with a disposable bottle but if you don't have anywhere to dispose of it, this is where a hand-held might be handy (get it? ha-ha)

I love my Nathan belt that hold 4 bottles, but I only use 2 at a time.  For me, it's psychological. If I'm running more than 10 miles, I just like knowing its there in case I feel thirsty.  I had a single bottle belt and HATED it, felt like I was pulling a freight train with 20 oz. hanging off my back.  I can't tolerate holding water bottles in my hand, it messes up my rhythm. I usually wear the belt on my waist and keep it nice and snug so that it can't move around, and I haven't had any issues with pilling. It sounds like a belt isn't your style, but you might like a multi-bottle belt better than the single bottle. Maybe the droopiness of the one bottle in the back was a problem?  And I agree with Salty, the same brand with probably have the same sip-top. 

2012-05-15 11:28 AM
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

2012-05-15 11:48 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

If you're promising huge melon presses, you better not have let go yet ... thank you, my Salty love!

It is a milestone birthday to me because I am a Dragon (in many, many ways, not just Chinese zodiac) and this is a Dragon year. It is otherwise still an extremely auspicious life and calendar year for me ... and so far, I feel it has been so, not the least because the MANATEES ARE THE BESTEST EVER!!!



2012-05-15 11:53 AM
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TriAya - 2012-05-15 11:48 AM
Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

If you're promising huge melon presses, you better not have let go yet ... thank you, my Salty love!

It is a milestone birthday to me because I am a Dragon (in many, many ways, not just Chinese zodiac) and this is a Dragon year. It is otherwise still an extremely auspicious life and calendar year for me ... and so far, I feel it has been so, not the least because the MANATEES ARE THE BESTEST EVER!!!

Ooooh, I'm a rat, so I think that makes us compatible. I'll bet Allen is something not compatible maybe a Rooster, since he's a...Surprised



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2012-05-15 11:57 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:53 AM
TriAya - 2012-05-15 11:48 AM
Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

If you're promising huge melon presses, you better not have let go yet ... thank you, my Salty love!

It is a milestone birthday to me because I am a Dragon (in many, many ways, not just Chinese zodiac) and this is a Dragon year. It is otherwise still an extremely auspicious life and calendar year for me ... and so far, I feel it has been so, not the least because the MANATEES ARE THE BESTEST EVER!!!

Ooooh, I'm a rat, so I think that makes us compatible. I'll bet Allen is something not compatible maybe a Rooster, since he's a...Surprised

HAHAHAHA!

Yes. Very compatible. My sister and her husband even call me Rat Lover (they are both rats). Also, rats love me. They love to cuddle with me. I like them too, but I'm really not thrilled about licentious rat cuddling, I need to get to know them first.

2012-05-15 12:09 PM
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TriAya - 2012-05-15 11:57 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

If you're promising huge melon presses, you better not have let go yet ... thank you, my Salty love!

It is a milestone birthday to me because I am a Dragon (in many, many ways, not just Chinese zodiac) and this is a Dragon year. It is otherwise still an extremely auspicious life and calendar year for me ... and so far, I feel it has been so, not the least because the MANATEES ARE THE BESTEST EVER!!!

Ooooh, I'm a rat, so I think that makes us compatible. I'll bet Allen is something not compatible maybe a Rooster, since he's a...Surprised

HAHAHAHA!

Yes. Very compatible. My sister and her husband even call me Rat Lover (they are both rats). Also, rats love me. They love to cuddle with me. I like them too, but I'm really not thrilled about licentious rat cuddling, I need to get to know them first.

Licentious- Have you ever considered writing a romance novel? Smile

2012-05-15 12:13 PM
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Happy, happy birthday, Yanti!!!  Wishing you the best!  And a {{melon press}}
2012-05-15 12:13 PM
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY YANTI !!!  Hope this year brings better health


2012-05-15 12:14 PM
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amd723 - 2012-05-15 12:13 PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY YANTI !!!  Hope this year brings better health

Wait, are we speaking in wingdings now? Wink

2012-05-15 12:19 PM
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY YANTI!!!!!!!

I'm not really into zodiac or anything like that but I do like the fact that you and I are both May-babies.

{{{{{KIWI PRESS}}}}}

 

2012-05-15 12:20 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-15 12:28 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}



How did I not know this?!?

Happy Birthday MerYanti! It is good to see that you are moving around a bit more lately. Enjoy whatever the day (and year) bring you.
2012-05-15 12:32 PM
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Not to distract from our wonderful and beautiful mentor's joyous dragon day but on a serious note I just want to remind everyone to be careful out there!!!!!!

A good friend/co-worker got into a really, really bad bike accident. As in-She's out of work indefinitely- type of accident. 

It's easy to slip into corner cutting and being a little reckless, I know I am guilty of it. Especially on the bike. Anyway, I don't mean to preach but sometimes we need a reminder every now and again.

2012-05-15 12:34 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-15 9:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

Happy Birthday Yanti! 



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Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 1:09 AM
TriAya - 2012-05-15 11:57 AM
Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:53 AM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 12:28 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YANTI! 

{{{{Huge melon presses}}}}

If you're promising huge melon presses, you better not have let go yet ... thank you, my Salty love!

It is a milestone birthday to me because I am a Dragon (in many, many ways, not just Chinese zodiac) and this is a Dragon year. It is otherwise still an extremely auspicious life and calendar year for me ... and so far, I feel it has been so, not the least because the MANATEES ARE THE BESTEST EVER!!!

Ooooh, I'm a rat, so I think that makes us compatible. I'll bet Allen is something not compatible maybe a Rooster, since he's a...Surprised

HAHAHAHA!

Yes. Very compatible. My sister and her husband even call me Rat Lover (they are both rats). Also, rats love me. They love to cuddle with me. I like them too, but I'm really not thrilled about licentious rat cuddling, I need to get to know them first.

Licentious- Have you ever considered writing a romance novel? Smile

NOOOOOO you know how I feel about romance novels! Despise, despise! In fact ... the protagonist of my novels never even sleeps with anyone. Lots of sexual tension, but very little romance. Ew.

2012-05-15 12:38 PM
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Asalzwed - 2012-05-16 1:32 AM

Not to distract from our wonderful and beautiful mentor's joyous dragon day but on a serious note I just want to remind everyone to be careful out there!!!!!!

A good friend/co-worker got into a really, really bad bike accident. As in-She's out of work indefinitely- type of accident. 

It's easy to slip into corner cutting and being a little reckless, I know I am guilty of it. Especially on the bike. Anyway, I don't mean to preach but sometimes we need a reminder every now and again.

Oh no

Indeed ... be careful ... ride cautious ... look over your shoulder ... assume no one can see you.

And ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS wear a helmet.

2012-05-15 12:41 PM
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Thank you all so much for the wonderful birthday wishes. It sure is a wonderful birthday especially with this riotous Manatee crew!
2012-05-15 12:50 PM
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Just a quick type-by post!

Happy BIRTHDAY  my fellow dragon!!!!

If I recall right, we're not only dragons, but Fire dragons! Sweet!

I am free of school and work today, but unfortunately I have to spend the day writing 5 final papers. Ick. I am still coughing up lungs (you would've thought I'd have run out by now, but no...) but apart from that, I feel great. Good thing too. One of my major races is coming up on Sunday--the Auburn Sprint Triathlon--a somewhat difficult one (I did the mini last year), and also its my 1st anniversary tri--as that mini was my first tri EVER! So I am looking forward to it. Funniest thing is, I went to the swim portion on Sunday--and it doesn't look nearly as far as it did last year (despite there actually being even higher water levels!), so that's a nice little confidence boost! Okay, time to knuckle down! See ya all!

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