16 months, still suck! (Page 8)

What are you doing Tuesday?

Lots of good can come out of this thread. It is useful for all to have a sanity check on zones used for training. Good old subjective Ratings of Perceived Exertion (RPE) still have a place. Remembering how you felt when racing should give you a sense of RPE of 5, 6, and/or 7 (on a scale of 1-10). If your training zones don't ever seem to get you to the same feeling, then something is off.

It seems like you have plenty of data with or without another test to let you get on with training a tad harder during the weeks left before IMCDA. I wish you well!

I understand your frustration but would like to offer a reminder to keep the generalizations about the members of this board more specific to yourself. Personally, as a woman, wife, mother and endurance athlete I am pretty good at listening with patience to the trials and tribulations of my fellow athletes. I'm good with the pep talk and don't mind that role one bit. I think that the overwhelming majority of posts in this thread have demonstrated a spirit of generosity, helpfulness, consideration and genuine concern to try to help Deb achieve her goals. I believe BT is exactly the group to do this with and I also believe that the patience shown to one another by the members of BT is exactly what makes this such a great place to hang out .

One more thing in general, not specific to your post, and I could be wrong, and I really like using commas in this sentence, BUT I think that when I take a look back at Deb's history on this board I can see that she does eventually process some of the information she is given here. It seems to me that maybe part of her personality does not take in new information easily at first. She has to  question to help her process things, sit on it a while, talk it over with others and implement changes in a way that she can handle over time. The primary example of this I can recall without going through all of the threads is the idea of trying to get her to drop the group classes. But she did eventually do just that, just in her own time.

Good post.

I've also noticed what you're saying in the second paragraph.  That's one of the reasons I keep trying to help GD, because eventually she takes some of the advice.  It just seems to take a lot of convincing on our parts and processing on her part before she moves forward.  That's one of the reasons I keep trying to help.  If she truly didn't take any of it, I'm not sure if I would put the effort into helping.

Tomorrow is bike test day for Deb. Good luck out there working hard and digging deep.

Post your results as I'm sure many here on BT want to see how it goes for you.

Trigal you're the perfect example of why your response is accurate.  There are definitely some ball busters around here but there are also some very patient and nurturing souls.  I think most of us actually can actually be either of those depending on the post or probably just how we're feeling that day.

I think all the support Deb has received in this thread kinda proves that us type A's can absolutely be patient listeners and provide encouragement along with the advice. 

Thanks  I decided to do yesterday's ride in "zone 5" and averaged 15 MPH over 75 miles in the same terrain I usually do 12-13 MPH on just by now allowing myself to go under zone 5.  I think z6 is my z4 and z5 is my high z2 low z3.  That will get me through CDA.  I'm setting up a session with someone to look at my stroke to see if they can tell me what to change with it.

~looking for my tin foil hat~

Sweet...so now you know that you likely need to do HIMs in Z5, and your IM will likely be between Z4 and Z5.  You need to do Oly's in Z6-7...and sprints in Z8.  When you're doing short intervals during training...such as 3-5' intervals...shoot for Z9-10

/thread.

[Slamming my head against the wall]

 ETA:  Jason, I know you know what you're talking about.  That was referencing the insanity of the conversation.  It wasn't directed at you.

I warned everyone that they should always wear their helmets when entering a GD thread.

I know, J.  I know.

Nice job on the 75 mile ride!

Doing the same HR as you did in your HIM for your long ride is solid and look you were much faster than you have been. How did you feel after the ride?

Since your zones are wrong, it is confusing to everyone what zone is really what. No one can actually ride 75 miles at zone 5.

As I said in a previous thread, whatever you rode on your 75mph ride is likely to be in your zone 2 maybe upper zone 2 unlikely to be low zone 3. Doing a 75 mile in zone 3 is challenging and takes incredible focus and always pushing a little harder. It takes some training to be able to do zone 3 for an hour let alone 5 hours.

What was your avg HR on this 75 mile ride compared to your HIM bike HR?

In your testing your HR should be quite a bit higher than it was in your HIM .

Sure!  First thing you got to do is get yourself a flux capacitor...

I think I'm in love.