Swimmer's Group (Olympic Distance Animals) - OPEN (Page 8)

Originally posted by Divemedic Congrats everyone on completing their first races..I'm still a month away from my first race of the year. I had to do some thinking when it came to my training. I was feeling rundown all the time, so I came to a conclusion. A)overtraining?- the answer was no I had enough rest days and really my training hasn't been all that hard on me. I'm not even doing strength trainign right now in my routine. B)Diet?-yes I don't think I was eating enough carbs and calories for the amount of training+the daily rigors of life so I upped my carbs and caloric intake and now I have tonnes of energy left at the end of the day C) Coffee- I tried to quit coffee..I realise with two small kids up at sunrise that I have come to rely on coffee. So I'm a coffee drinker for life, just not Tim Horon's blah!! Anyway it's off to the pool for me and my daughter then maybe a workout today.

Originally posted by Divemedic Hey just checking in, been biking more and running more. Also started with some weight training as right now my left shoulder hurts, Ithink Ihave what is called swimmer's shoulder. I can't lift it above my head without causeing sme pain. GRRRRR

Originally posted by Day-Day

Happy birthday Jason. I'm over twice your age but won't be in a couple more years.

I have been training without a plan this week. Still mostly lower volumes. Felt very good during the run yesterday but the swim was a little tough. I did 1:15 on the bike on Tuesday including two 20-minute hard intervals.

Forgot to mention that I rode past a Copperhead snake that was coiled with its head up in the middle of the bike lane a couple of weeks ago. I didn't notice it till I was right even with it; a little freaky. That was when the weather was still warming up and I guess it was enjoying the warm pavement.

I plan to lift and play racquetball tonight (need to quit this) and bike tomorrow.

Jason--I'm close to deciding on a new training plan but need some advice that I can ignore... You covered this some during the last mentor session; mentioning that to try to peak 3 times in a year is tough and also mentioned that we beginners should start back towards the beginning of a build-plan after we peak for our primary race (at least I think that's what you said). I am looking at two secondary races now that I've finished the Olympic. One race is about 9 weeks out and the other about 9 weeks after that. I am considering doing a 9-week plan for the first then dropping and doing another 9-week plan. Do you think I would do better to build for the race that is 18 weeks out and catch the earlier race as part of this training or go with two plans which leads to two more "peaks"? I want to follow an Olympic training plan even though the races are, in miles, .5/22/3.75 and .33/16/3. If the longer race was second, I'd lean towards one plan catching the shorter race during the program but the longer race comes first.

Howard--I tried to follow the BT 3xOlympic plan and my peak week volumes were around: 8800 yds/59 miles/ 21 miles; did longer run volumes earlier in the plan. I should have done more bike miles; I only reached about 60% of the bike time but miles and times were mostly on the trainer.

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Ugh- had a similar issue with my left shoulder last December and was out of the pool for 6 weeks post cortisone shot (mine got a lot worse than yours sounds, so hopefully you can avoid a similar fate during race season!).  I came back veeerrrry slowly, staring with a maddeningly short 400yd total workout and working up to ~2,000 over about 5 weeks.  Knock wood, it's ok now.

Does it remit any with rest (even a couple day's worth)?

Been quiet on this thread of late.  I have my next Oly coming up at month's end.  Kind of training through, although it's after a rest week (3 week build, 1 week "rest and test").  As I've signed up for a HIM (Timberman) on August 18th, my training plan has had to evolve a little.

Current thinking is to stick with Oly intensity and distances during the week and do the HIM long days for Sat/Sun.  Build as above through June 30, then a 2 week build, one week taper to the next Oly (a sprint on July 14th - that'll be tough at the end of a 2 week build - and then taper for a week to the July 21st race).

Then take the next 4 weeks and do a 2 week HIM specific build, one week HIM peak, one week HIM taper and then race.

As for the back half of the season, prolly a couple sprints and then back to a more run focus - I love fall road races!  Plus, Kim is into the road race thing these days, so we'll get to race together more that way.

Anywho, hope you're all able to get after it!

Best,

Matt

Originally posted by swimmer04

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David,
Doing two 'A' races 9 weeks apart is fine, it is all about carrying over your fitness then nailing a good taper. I wouldn't recommend starting a training plan back at the beginning, since typically those plans start out pretty easy and are below the current fitness level that you are after a race. You'll want to carry that fitness into the next training phase and basically work to fine tune your engine instead of building your engine (which would have been done over the off season). I would recommend taking an easy recovery week the week after the race, than 4 weeks of good solid training. Weeks 6 and 7 should be speed focused to help your body reach that peak. Don't be afraid to add speed in weeks 2-5, just not as much as you would in 6 and 7. I race a triathlon almost every 4 weeks (once a month), but typically only pick 3 of those to really peak for and will back off maybe 2 days before for all the others. To me the joy of triathlons is racing, so the more I race the more fun it is!

Jason

Originally posted by mcmanusclan5

Ugh- had a similar issue with my left shoulder last December and was out of the pool for 6 weeks post cortisone shot (mine got a lot worse than yours sounds, so hopefully you can avoid a similar fate during race season!).  I came back veeerrrry slowly, staring with a maddeningly short 400yd total workout and working up to ~2,000 over about 5 weeks.  Knock wood, it's ok now.

Does it remit any with rest (even a couple day's worth)?

Been quiet on this thread of late.  I have my next Oly coming up at month's end.  Kind of training through, although it's after a rest week (3 week build, 1 week "rest and test").  As I've signed up for a HIM (Timberman) on August 18th, my training plan has had to evolve a little.

Current thinking is to stick with Oly intensity and distances during the week and do the HIM long days for Sat/Sun.  Build as above through June 30, then a 2 week build, one week taper to the next Oly (a sprint on July 14th - that'll be tough at the end of a 2 week build - and then taper for a week to the July 21st race).

Then take the next 4 weeks and do a 2 week HIM specific build, one week HIM peak, one week HIM taper and then race.

As for the back half of the season, prolly a couple sprints and then back to a more run focus - I love fall road races!  Plus, Kim is into the road race thing these days, so we'll get to race together more that way.

Anywho, hope you're all able to get after it!

Best,

Matt

Originally posted by Moody1775

Random silly question :/ 2 1/2 weeks from first tri wondering about hydration.... I have always used a camel back.... Is this allowed? I know it's not light but I love it can I use it for my oly? Already found out I can't bike and run with my I phone cried a little when I found out ! Jk but would be crushed if I can't use my camel back :/

Originally posted by Divemedic

Happy Fathers Day to all the dad's!!

Today I spent my father's day with my kiddo's watching my wife do herfirst ever organised race since she started running. It's not something that has come easy for her but I am proud. Se finished her first 5k in 35:09!!